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post #16 of 96

Re: Kiddy Trailers

Lotte,

One expensive solution is the Christiania Bike (trike)
http://www.christianiabikes.com/english/uk_main.htm

We waited for the 12 month stage when each child had the necessary head support, and then used the Beto child seat on the back of my wife's bike. Note that they do fall asleep on the back of a bike, and it doesn't look good with the head lolling about. Our child seat will tilt back to avoid the child's head from bashing into your backside or hanging out sideways. MTB tyres make for a more comfortable ride than 27" HP tyres.

Below 12 months the pram or car were used. The pram is still in use. My wife pushes the 3yo uphill each morning as she walks the 7yo to school, then again in the afternoon for pickup. (The 7yo had a slight advantage in the school cross country run over those kids who were driven to school :-) The walking has been very successful at helping burn off the pregnancy fat. My wife destroyed the bearings on the first pram by pushing a 10kg child and 20+kg of shopping home. Nylon bush bearings just can't take that sort of load.

We are now at the stage where the 7yo should be able to ride distances on his own bike, but he is a bit timid and so has only just started to ride independently. The 3yo thinks she can do anything her brother can do. The 7yo has used the tag-a-long since he was 4, which helped his balance. His only exposure to training wheels was an afternoon at a bike traffic school before he could ride. In another year he will have to graduate to his own bike and let his little sister use the tag-a-long. The 3yo currently rides a fixie. It was obtained during a hard rubbish collection, has 30cm wheels that are not pnuematic, trainer wheels, and the little dare devil takes her feet off the pedals on down hill runs.
post #17 of 96
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Theo Bekkers
After the first trimester the nauseousness passes, and is replaced by bloatedness, which will not go away, but will become unnoticable because of the back pain in the last two months. Sorry.
For a bloke, you know an awful lot about being stretchy, Theo. I'm worried about you.

I feel great at the moment. To the point where I've started doing the dishes and I actually feel like cooking again. My abs hurt a bit as Peanut tries to push past my beer gut, but otherwise I feel great. Rode my bike to work for the first time in yonks this morning and felt fine in doing so. Admittedly, the first trimester had me wondering what the heck Paulie had gotten me into (hence he copped a lot of flak).

Lotte
post #18 of 96
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Originally Posted by ghostgum
One expensive solution is the Christiania Bike (trike)
http://www.christianiabikes.com/english/uk_main.htm
All Danish people know about those. They're wicked, aren't they?

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Below 12 months the pram or car were used.
Car.... blergh. That's what I'd like to avoid.

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My wife pushes the 3yo uphill each morning as she walks the 7yo to school, then again in the afternoon for pickup.
That can't be right. Kids don't walk to school these days ;-)

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(The 7yo had a slight advantage in the school cross country run over those kids who were driven to school :-) The walking has been very successful at helping burn off the pregnancy fat. My wife destroyed the bearings on the first pram by pushing a 10kg child and 20+kg of shopping home. Nylon bush bearings just can't take that sort of load.
Hadn't thought of bearings.... definitely something to keep in mind. Your wife sounds like a hard core chick. I like it.

LH
post #19 of 96

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Quote:
Originally Posted by LotteBum
Hadn't thought of bearings.... definitely something to keep in mind. Your wife sounds like a hard core chick. I like it.
I'm not sure "hard core chick" is the right description. More appropriate would be "As cheap as I am". Why drive a car and turn in a fat slob, when you can walk instead and get the exercise while you travel, for only a little extra time? Why drive 4km to the gym to sit on a excercise bike when you can ride there? We've always made do with one car, and if we need to go separate directions then you either ride or ask for a lift from someone else. My wife also rode 4km to work for about 3 years (definitely not the norm amongst her colleagues), including until she was about 6 months pregnant.

My wife was commenting last night about the children who walk to school. The stereotype seems to be that Chinese kids get driven to school, and the Indian kids walk to school with their family, then the mothers continue
their social walk afterwards. We are in the white ethnic minority.

Are you allowed to attach a kiddie trailer to a scooter? :-)
post #20 of 96

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On Sep 11, 12:09 pm, ghostgum <ghostgum.2wq...@no-
mx.forums.cyclingforums.com> wrote:
> Are you allowed to attach a kiddie trailer to a scooter? :-)


You could probably attach a registered motorcycle trailer provided the
scooter was large enough and the trailer was small enough. Of course
then you couldn't transport humans in it :-)
post #21 of 96
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ghostgum
I'm not sure "hard core chick" is the right description. More appropriate would be "As cheap as I am". Why drive a car and turn in a fat slob, when you can walk instead and get the exercise while you travel, for only a little extra time? Why drive 4km to the gym to sit on a excercise bike when you can ride there? We've always made do with one car, and if we need to go separate directions then you either ride or ask for a lift from someone else. My wife also rode 4km to work for about 3 years (definitely not the norm amongst her colleagues), including until she was about 6 months pregnant.
That's pretty cool. My mum rode 10km each way until the Friday before she had me (I was born on a Sunday), and this was in December, when it's frigging cold over there. I plan to ride for as long as I can. I'm only 14 weeks now, so obviously I'm not at all uncomfortable, but I'll see how I go. I'm not sure how easy it is on a road bike...?

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Are you allowed to attach a kiddie trailer to a scooter? :-)
Trust me, I would if it was legal! Nah, Paulie inherits the red rocket next year, and I'll take over the Corolla. Might buy a Prado though - I hear they're useful when you have kids.

LH
post #22 of 96

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LotteBum wrote:
>
> Theo Bekkers Wrote:
> > It was the standard method of travel when I was a kid in Holland. I
> > remember going on family outings to my great uncle Frans place, where
> > us kids would climb up the huge cherry tree and eat cherries all day.
> > Dad with the twin girls, one seat on the crossbar and another on the
> > back. Mum the same with the twin boys, except for the crossbar. My
> > older brother with my younger brother on the back, and my sister and I
> > on our own bikes. My older brother was 12, older sister 9, I 7, younger
> > brother 6, twin girls 3 1/2, twin boys
> > 18 months. This was the only way we ever travelled, no heros, no medals
> > needed.

> That's awesome! Way to go Team Bekkers!
>
> --
> LotteBum


Back in Ancient Times during the 1950s when I was a youngster, the idea
of my mum or my father pedling around
Sydney Roads with child trailers behind push bikes would have been
utterly impractical and
entirely irresponsible because of the dangers of riding on the crowded
narrow roads.

I lived about 17km away from the fabulous Sydney beaches where my
sisters and I were taken on many weekends
but most certainly not by means of bicycles. The round trip would have
been utterly exhausting
and dangerous due to large hills and steep descents, and the bloody
traffic.
From an early age we walked a mile to primary schools, then later caught
buses.
I cannot recall a single student riding a bike to school in the 11 years
at St Leo's.
But a couple of kids who were sons of Dutch immigrants and a couple of
Italians were interested in bikes,
and raced on weekends, and at 15 or 17, I used my earned pocket money to
buy a second hand beat up
old push bike which I gradually restored,
and unlike most of the rest of my car driving peer group I rode to the
beach and back quite often,
or rode to Gosford and back with the Dutch Comrades, who I found to be
brilliant company.
The two Dutch guys were utter dunces in class, except that their picture
painting efforts were excellent, but despite their
dismal marks elsewhere they were quite successful after leaving school,
showing much more panache than most aussie kids.
But once I completed school, and work and night school study began, I
ceased cycling completely, and got around only by
motorcycle, which allowed me time to travel all around Sydney and for
work, study and to socialise
without turning up exhausted in a lather of sweat. I refused to buy a
car, or marry the dopey sheila living next door.
It was expected that i do that asap, but I let them all down.
Mum and Dad most certainly did not have the time, inclination, or
capabilities for cycle travel it seemed.
And nor did I, in all my 20s, and half my 30s.

When young we always went around by car, and usually in a Morris Oxford,
or a Willy's Jeep stationwagon.
My dad was a vet, always rushed off his feet, and also a local alderman,
and never cycled anywhere
while I knew him. ( But he cycled in his youth, riding to Cairns and
back to Sydney in 1927.)
My grandma and a great aunt lived with us, and they sure were never to
ever turn a crank with a foot.
There were hardly any cars on the road in '27, but by '55, Sydney's
roads were already choked.
Road widening and re-building has never kept pace with car ownership and
use.
There were no cycle paths. My mum rode a lot in her youth, but only on
horses in Centennial Park,
as she enjoyed life in Paddington with its airs and graces methinks. She
just wasn't even slightly
ever interested in bicycles, like about 90% of those around her. My
sisters never rode anything
that wasn't a horse or at least a moped. Providing leg power just wasn't
on!

Here in Canberra, a network of cycle paths allows ppl to cycle if they
want to
without any fear of being run over by motorists.
The hills tend to be gentle and short compared to many other places,
and if ones life expecations do not include being a busy professional
person,
or living expensively in a bigger city like Sydney, then a humble simple
life
of frugality in a cycle friendly town may suit some folks exceedingly
well.
I own a small car though, and use it constantly for shopping and its a
luxury I allow myself
even while on very low wages. The $1,400 per annun to run a 1986 Ford
Laser seems good value to me,
as well as the cost of the cycling, maybe $500 per annum in costs, and
$1,000 in time spent cycling and cost of
earning during that time. The bicycle could provide all my travel needs,
but I like the diversity of operation,
and don't much like riding into town when its -10C on winter evenings to
play chess.

The idea of borrowing money to buy a new car seems utterly wasteful, and
I never ever have.
the depreciation on a new car is a waste. But I did once buy a brand new
utility for my building work.
22 years later I got a very nice price of $4,000 for this Holden One
Tonner.
It was impossible for me to be a working tradesman without a motor
vehicle.

I did such a fine job of buying and renovating my house in distant past
years that I don't need the huge income
or time to now maintain what I own. Other folks seem to need to work a
lot more than i do.
Young folks buying their own house now are having to pay much more in
real terms than I did,
and so often their work schedules don't permit the time to cycling with
kids in tow
as a priniciple means of transport. There is only so much money anyone
can save by refusing to buy a car.
Judging by my own economics of the issue, it really isn't much of a
saving, a couple of grand a year at most
if one can settle for a cheap to run small four cylinder car.
I chose the building trade as my trade because I knew one of the biggest
purchases I'd ever make
would be to buy a house and land. I came easily to the idea of being a
settled down person,
and this boring dull attitude saves me a huge amount because I don't pay
rent.
Being a builder meant I could buy a tiny run down house
cheaply, and invest my time and skills directly to rebuild it without
paying profits to another builder to house me,
and have to earn high wages to pay that builder, and pay tax on top of
all that.
So I managed easily to provide a very adequate house with moderate
luxuries of two bathrooms and an inground pool
all paid for by age 37, and all without the help of any "partner", as a
wife is called these days.
The point I make is that ones life decisions and choices have a large
effect on how you
get on later in life, and the more you avoid the larger massive expenses
of housing by being
self reliant, the better. If you have any time left over to avoid
motoring costs by cycling,
its an additional winfall.

I don't need a wealthy lifestyle, do not have to do parenting duties and
chores so i can spend a wednesday and sunday
on a bicycle for 4 hours each day and then rest up.
I don't even bother to ride the 1km to the local shop to shop, where
each bag of groceries is $20 average,
and heavy, because there are no packaged "Fake Supermarket Food
Products" within.
Three times a week it seems a weight of vegetable expense is difficult
to avoid. The land I own combined with the
local climate prevents me growing my own food.

Compared to many, I'm bone lazy and quite inconsistant, but I couldn't
care less; my greenhouse footprint on This PLanet
is tiny compared to busy people whose average weekly earnings are 7
times my earnings, and spend every darn thing i don't want or need
and it all ends up CO2. Most ppl today cannot be frugal and happy, or
even just happy.

Relying on buses to get around Canberra would mean long waits especially
on weekends,
and a car makes sense to me, and I don't like riding when its wet.

But overall, I've always found it cheaper to live in Canberra than
living in Sydney.
I have come to terms that Canberra is viewed by those living elsewhere
that is THE MOST BORING PLACE ON EARTH.
Hmm, sounds wonderful to me, no bugger takin a quid off me each time I
do anything at all.
Beautiful dull boring empty country scenery is only 5 minutes away by
bicycle. No seeemingly endless tracts
of deprssing urban landscapes.
I sure don't miss the Sydney beaches, and I don't need a pretentious
McMansion.
People who say Canberra is boring are usually very boring themselves,
and have less ability to be self sufficient.
For those defiant and rebellious enough to reject the peer group imposed
straightjacket like conformity
of being addicted to cars and wealthy pretense more than I do, they sure
can do it well in Canberra, and only have a bicycle for
all their family travel. For such healthy rebellions, I'd hand out
medals if I could, but alas I have not
quite the right relationship with people running The Mint.

Patrick Turner.
post #23 of 96

Re: Kiddy Trailers

On Sep 11, 8:52 am, "Theo Bekkers" <tbekk...@bekkers.com.au> wrote:
> After the first trimester the nauseousness passes,


My wife would definitely take issue with that statement, as would many
others I've spoken to recently. With our recent addition (now 6 weeks
old) my wife was puking up at all times of the day ("morning"
sickness? HA!) from within a few days of conception to the day of
delivery. In fact, the anaesthetist was kept busy holding a bowl for
her to puke in during the delivery.

But to bring it back on topic, our daughter's first present for her
big brother was a brand new bicycle!

Graeme
post #24 of 96

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On Sep 11, 12:19 pm, LotteBum <LotteBum.2wq...@no-
mx.forums.cyclingforums.com> wrote:
>
>Might buy a Prado


Sacrilege!!
post #25 of 96

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Terryc
Theo Bekkers wrote:

>>Yes. Contrary to popular belief, I am not a virgin.

>
>
> <applause> Great response Lotte.


Sex traitor. You haven't enquired whether the sperm donor survived the
encounter {:-).
Now that you mention it, we haven't seen a post from Paulie for at least 3 months

DB
post #26 of 96
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Duracell Bunny
Now that you mention it, we haven't seen a post from Paulie for at least 3 months
Not to worry - Paulie is ok. I need him around to finance my retirement and to fill the Prado. We've just been busy renovating the sh!tbox house in time for Peanut's arrival.

LH
post #27 of 96
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Graeme Dods
My wife would definitely take issue with that statement, as would many others I've spoken to recently. With our recent addition (now 6 weeks old) my wife was puking up at all times of the day ("morning"
sickness? HA!) from within a few days of conception to the day of
delivery. In fact, the anaesthetist was kept busy holding a bowl for
her to puke in during the delivery.
Wow, I do consider myself lucky then. So far, everything has been very text book (except for the conception), including what I could have sworn was Peanut flipping us the bird at the first scan last Thursday. That was when it hit home, that this poor foetus really is a Paulie-Lotte cross.

Lotte
post #28 of 96

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In aus.bicycle on Tue, 11 Sep 2007 12:19:04 +1000
LotteBum <LotteBum.2wq4yn@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com> wrote:
> it's frigging cold over there. I plan to ride for as long as I can. I'm
> only 14 weeks now, so obviously I'm not at all uncomfortable, but I'll
> see how I go. I'm not sure how easy it is on a road bike...?


You need a recumbent you do! Nice back support.

Zebee
post #29 of 96

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On Sep 11, 10:44 am, LotteBum <LotteBum.2wq...@no-
mx.forums.cyclingforums.com> wrote:
> Wow, I do consider myself lucky then. So far, everything has been very
> text book (except for the conception), including what I could have sworn
> was Peanut flipping us the bird at the first scan last Thursday.


On Isabella's first scan where she was recognisable as a baby my wife
was yabbering away nervously to the doctor. Isabella had clearly had
enough of the noise and could be seen on the scan waving her arms
around until her hands covered her ears. She takes after me!

Graeme
post #30 of 96

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On Sep 11, 10:44 am, LotteBum <LotteBum.2wq...@no-
mx.forums.cyclingforums.com> wrote:
>
> Wow, I do consider myself lucky then. So far, everything has been very
> text book (except for the conception)


I don't know, depends on which section of the library you're browsing.
There are some very unusual text books out there!

Graeme
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