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Hi,

I am a rower who is looking to do a bit of biking over the summer. For anyone who knows anything about rowing, I can do 8500+m on the erg in 30' and typically do about 140-170km a week. Also, I am 6'1" and a lightweight (around 165 most of the time). I was thinking about training for a century this summer and I did not know how to go about doing this. Most of the guides I see online are for people doing about 100-150mi a week. While I might do some running or rowing in addition, I think my mileage would be a bit higher. Any recommendations about ways to train and/or reasonable goals?

Thanks
 
Originally Posted by TheGiant .

Hi,

I am a rower who is looking to do a bit of biking over the summer. For anyone who knows anything about rowing, I can do 8500+m on the erg in 30' and typically do about 140-170km a week. Also, I am 6'1" and a lightweight (around 165 most of the time). I was thinking about training for a century this summer and I did not know how to go about doing this. Most of the guides I see online are for people doing about 100-150mi a week. While I might do some running or rowing in addition, I think my mileage would be a bit higher. Any recommendations about ways to train and/or reasonable goals?

Thanks
You can easily finish a century this summer if you start preparing for it now. I'm almost 60 years old. I came back to cycling in the late summer of 2011, riding an ancient Schwinn LeTour that a friend lent me. By mid-November I did my first metric century (100 km or 62 miles). By February I did a full century, solo. It really helped that we had a mild winter and I was able to ride consistently. I've finished two centuries in well under 6 hours since then.

It's like any endurance sport. Build up to it.100 miles a week isn't that much---it about 15 miles a day. In a month, 15 miles will be a piece of cake even if you're starting from scratch now. And even if you haven't sat on a bike in years, you're starting at a level of fitness that most new cyclists don't even approach, yet alone match. I think you can breeze through 15 miles right now, starting cold. A 22 mile per day average puts you over 150 miles a week.. After a few weeks, do a 30 miler. Then shoot for 50 in another couple of weeks. Don't push your limits every day. You need to do easy recovery rides, and even take a rest day now and then, as part of your routine. It's mid-March now. By mid to late May, try doing a metric. 100 km. 62 miles. You should be able to. By the end of June, you should be able to take on a century. By then, with warmer weather and longer daylight hours, you should be averaging 200+ miles a week. You only have to average 30 miles a day to do 200 mile weeks. Throw in that one long ride a week, something like 40-60 miles. Two or three weeks before you try your century, go for 75 miles. Ease off the week before the century.

One of the ways to boost both your endurance and speed is to do either hill repeats, or intervals, or a combination of both. Find a hill that's a challenge, climb it, and coast back down. Repeat. Start with 5 repeats. Intervals? Pedal at close to max effort for a stretch ( a half mile for starters) and then pedal easy for the same distance. Or, go on a group ride with people of your level of ability, drop off the back of the group, and then pedal hard to catch back up.

On long rides, it's important to stay hydrated and to take in food. I carry a couple of energy bars in my jersey pocket on any ride over 40 miles (I'm also a diabetic and can't let my blood sugar drop too low). For liquids, take two water bottles (you can fill one with a sports drink and alternate). Drink before you're thirsty. Unless you live in a very rural area, you can replenish your water by buying bottled water at a convenience store, or even in a public bathroom. Some riders wear Camelbacks or other hydration systems. I don't. I don't need the extra weight and a sweat pocket in the middle of my back. It's your call on that.

Organized centuries are much, much easier to do than a solo ride. They'll be rest/food stops along the ride, and plenty of other riders of similar ability who can pull you along and encourage you if you start hurting.
 
Originally Posted by TheGiant .

Hi,

I am a rower who is looking to do a bit of biking over the summer. For anyone who knows anything about rowing, I can do 8500+m on the erg in 30' and typically do about 140-170km a week. Also, I am 6'1" and a lightweight (around 165 most of the time). I was thinking about training for a century this summer and I did not know how to go about doing this. Most of the guides I see online are for people doing about 100-150mi a week. While I might do some running or rowing in addition, I think my mileage would be a bit higher. Any recommendations about ways to train and/or reasonable goals?

Thanks
With that kind of erg performance, it's obvious you're a very fit and lean rower with a high VO2 max. Rowing is a good preparation for cycling, better than running, so you'll have no problems at all making the switch. It just takes time on the bike for your legs to adapt to the slightly-different motion. Main goals should be to get comfortable on the bike, break in your butt to the long hours of saddle time, and get used to handling the bike in a large group of riders. Pacing is another goal to learn. You're used to 2K races, 6 min-type efforts, not 6 hours plus needed for a century.

For century training, I'd suggest you just ride the bike on increasing-mileage rides once or twice a week. Start with a comfortable distance, maybe 20 miles, then add say 5-10 miles each week. In between your long rides, do some short easy rides. Maybe once a week push the pace to get your breathing up for a 20-30 minute interval. Intensity can be less than your 30 min erg efforts. You probably know all about aerobic training already, so that part should be natural for you.
 
That was really helpful, thanks. I guess I should have added that I already spend up to 2 h on the stationary at a 145 hr (about 210 watts probably). Also, if I was doing about 250-300m a week, what would be a good time for a century. I was thinking about 5-5.40 for a not really hilly ride. Is this feasable?
 
"Is this feasable?"

Depending on how "not hilly", easily. Stay hydrated. Eat. Stop to **** & stretch. You'll be under 5-1/2 total time, no sweat.
 
thats great to hear. I got pretty bad injury and havent been able to row all winter so I have been cross-training a lot. I recently got a real road bike for the first time in my life so I can maybe spend some time outside instead of on the stationary. I am super-pumped for summer training and racing.
 
Originally Posted by TheGiant .

That was really helpful, thanks. I guess I should have added that I already spend up to 2 h on the stationary at a 145 hr (about 210 watts probably). Also, if I was doing about 250-300m a week, what would be a good time for a century. I was thinking about 5-5.40 for a not really hilly ride. Is this feasable?
Very feasible in my opinion. 5 hours would be fantastic, but anything under 6 would be great. I averaged 17.7 mph on my last century, with about 3700' of climbing. Not much wind, though. Wind will slow you down, and you will never make up the lost time riding upwind, on your downwind segments.
 
Giant, you're already way ahead of most century riders. I'd suggest you not worry about your time on the first century, and just go out and enjoy it. That's the key thing, not your time at the finish line. Enjoy the rest stops, eat, take short breaks to stretch and chat with other riders. Take it easy for the first 50, see how you feel. You can always open the taps at mile 80 if you've still got plenty left in the tank. It's more fun to pass guys and finish the last 20 miles strong than it is to be a hero at the half-way stop and then struggle.....trust me on that part!
 
dhk2 said:
Giant, you're already way ahead of most century riders.  I'd suggest you not worry about your time on the first century, and just go out and enjoy it.  That's the key thing, not your time at the finish line.  Enjoy the rest stops, eat, take short breaks to stretch and chat with other riders.  Take it easy for the first 50, see how you feel.  You can always open the taps at mile 80 if you've still got plenty left in the tank.  It's more fun to pass guys and finish the last 20 miles strong than it is to be a hero at the half-way stop and then struggle.....trust me on that part!   
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Do you guys have any specific training advice. I get the building up endurance, but are there any standard interval or tempo workouts?
 
In terms of training advice, are there any standard tempo or interval workouts for distances of this sort?
 
Long-Steady-Distance work in gradually increasing time in the saddle.

mpre53 pointed out something in need of addressing: Most centuries are loops and you will likely be in the wind. The headwind/crosswind legs can be anything from hard work to a brutal death march and can lower your speed/up your time significantly. Work on your power output into the wind and work on your position on the bike. Holding a low position for long blocks of time comes easy to some and takes practice for others. Every rider comes up with his own tactics to plow thru the wind. Going up a gear or down a gear, varying RPMs, mental games, etc. you'll find a way.

mpre53 is correct about lost time in the wind. You rarely make up time lost into a headwind on the tailwind leg(s). When the wind is in your face, keep working. It will pay off when the clock stops.

Drafting can really help on those windy legs. That does require practice for safety and efficiency. And an eye for choosing safe and efficient drafting partners. It's like everyone in the boat being in synch, but with the penalty for being out of synch a painful trip to the deck for several riders if one guy gets it all FUBAR. Practice with others if you plan on drafting thru a multi-rider/organized century. Start slowly with a couple/three guys and work into faster, larger groups.

Pay attention to varying hand position to avoid fatigue. Stand up on the pedals even on the flats every now and again. Stretch on the bike...twist your back, stretch your arms behind your back, roll your neck, unclip and move your legs around...whatever feels good to you. Rest on the bike, but keep moving.
 
Rowing I love that one too. If we could row on the bike. 100-150 miles a week that is a good amount. Nice and steady not too bad. You've just got to get going. Stretching before and after helps get you into it easy.
 

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