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post #1291 of 1823

Bikers discover two burning bodies on trail



Two bodies discovered near Cady Way Trail

Updated: Sunday, 15 Apr 2012, 6:12 PM EDT
Published : Sunday, 15 Apr 2012, 10:33 AM EDT

Tiffany Teasley

Orange County - Deputies say bikers on an early morning ride on the Cady Way Trail in Orange County made a gruesome discovery Sunday morning when they came upon two bodies on fire next to a bridge.

“Came upon a fire off to the side of the trail, as they got closer to the fire, they discovered that it appeared someone was in the fire or a couple folks were in the fire,” said Captain Angelo Nieves of the Orange County Sheriff’s Office.

Deputies blocked off a stretch of the trail while the medical examiner's office and forensics team processed the scene, the incident stunned bikers and walkers who frequent the busy trail.

“It freaks me out, people are cycling on this path all the time, and running and walking,” said Rich Baldwin of Winter Park.

Police won’t say if the victims were deceased prior to being set on fire, and because of the condition of the bodies, they say it will take some time to identify the victims.

“Something like this doesn’t happen without someone knowing, and we’re asking the community to help us,” Nieves said.

Deputies also taped off an area near a dumpster outside an apartment complex off of Aloma Ave where it appeared there was another fire, but it’s unclear if the two scenes are connected.

For the most part bikers say they feel safe on the trail, but they say there are certain stretches of the trail that concern them.

“There’s an awful lot of graffiti on the buildings and I don’t know whether it’s a dangerous are or not, but the hair stands up on the back of my neck any time I’m coming through here,” Baldwin said.

Deputies say they have no suspects, they’re asking anyone with information to call Crimeline.

Read more: http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/crime/04152012_Firey_Double_Homicide#ixzz1sChckbYW





Cycle unarmed amongst a world full of morons, thieves, drugaholics and psychopaths? Not on YOUR life, let alone mine.


Animals. You live among animals. Unsocialized, uncivilized, unredeemable animals.

post #1292 of 1823
Thread Starter 


A person that lives in the prison of their mind's own creation.

Scared.  Paranoid.  Insecure.  Seeing the boogieman in every person.

Only making notice of the worst in society.  Totally overlooking the good in people.

The entrenched 'me against them' mentality - "but I'm prepared".  There is more to life, living - and most of all, cycling - than that.


post #1293 of 1823

Only making notice of the worst in society. 


Ignore it at your own risk. I've got no problem with you becoming a poster child and statistic.


What do you calculate your odds of lead poisoning at if you came upon the scene of those animals murdering someone? Just a simple, "Oops! My bad!", and you're on your merry way?


There's a couple of families this morning that aren't seeing much good in the people that frequent the local bicycle path.


Back to the unicorns sailing over the fluffy white clouds and dropping Skittles on the masses.



post #1294 of 1823
Originally Posted by CAMPYBOB View Post

Bikers discover two burning bodies on trail





Cycle unarmed amongst a world full of morons, thieves, drugaholics and psychopaths? Not on YOUR life, let alone mine.


Animals. You live among animals. Unsocialized, uncivilized, unredeemable animals.

Again and again and again, the morons, thieves, drugaholics, and psychopaths will get the jump on you because they'll have the element of surprise on their side.  You will not have a chance to fumble for a gun you have stored in your fanny pack or handlebar bag etc.  They will come out of nowhere and knock you off your bike so fast you'll be stunned, beaten and maybe dead, then your bike stolen with the gun if in your handlebar bag, and they'll rifle through your fanny pack and steal your gun.  So you still end up dead, they have your bike and gun they'll sell for more drugs or use the gun in a crime then your family is in huge trouble because the gun was registered to you thus suddenly you're family has a liability issue.   


And then on top of it your paranoid.  I've been riding for over 40 years and 6 of those years were in Los Angeles and I rode in some seedy areas, like Echo Park (back when it was gang infested), Watts, Compton, you name it I rode through it, and I did so alone without a gun.  99.999 percent of all riders and runners never have a problem their entire lives. 


Some people, decent people, who carry guns suddenly have this feeling of power, and will lip off to people because they know they have a gun to back themselves up with.  Next thing you know they shoot someone who "appeared" to go for a weapon and later finds out the dead person didn't have a weapon and you go to jail for life plus your family suffers from the liability outcome of that as well.  This just happened recently with Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin, now  Zimmerman is in a world of trouble for shooting an unarmed person he thought was going for a weapon...at least that's what he claims.  But Zimmerman knew he had the power to shoot Trayvon and chased Trayvon after 911 operator told him not to.  Trayvon was running, the suppose threat was leaving.


You want to defend yourself against weirdos then take a lot of classes in some sort of martial art like Aikido mixed with Brazilian wrestling.  Because most surprise street fights are hand to hand combat not wild west gun fights.


But hey, you go on ahead and let paranoia run your life, it won't run mine.


post #1295 of 1823



Since we can't speak the truth about dayd Traayvon, where's the outrage for this darwin candidate?


Million T-shirt march, anyone? Rev. Al gonna come around and preach? Jesse Jaxson going to rail? Obummerr claim to have a daughter that looks like her?



BAY MINETTE, Alabama — A former Baldwin County High School standout volleyball player — shot on a remote Delta island at the scene of an alleged break-in gone wrong — was described by her mother Monday as struggling for life while her family waited for results from the latest CT scans.

Terri Lewis said she was hoping that the third test would show 17-year-old Summer Moody has a "fighting chance" at survival.

Moody was shot in the head at about 4 a.m. Sunday on Gravine Island in the Mobile-Tensaw River Delta, according to the Baldwin County Sheriff’s Office.

Press-Register reporters on Monday observed what appeared to be blood and police evidence markings on a wooden private pier leading to one of two camps built on pilings on Gravine basin, carved out of Gravine Island’s heart.

The northernmost camp looked to be still under construction, while the yard around the other appeared to have been freshly mowed. Both camps are built on a peninsula some 50 yards wide between the basin and Gravine Creek.

'All the circumstances that could go bad went bad'

According to the account of sheriff’s investigators, Moody and three teenage boys went early Sunday to the island.

"At some point in time," Sheriff Huey "Hoss" Mack said at a news conference, "it is believed the three of the juveniles — the three male juveniles at least — went into two fishing/hunting camps there adjacent to the island and we believe committed theft."

Two men staying at a camp on the back side of the island heard a door being broken. One of the men, according to Mack, was a caretaker of the property, knew of several recent break-ins and went to investigate.

The men discovered intruders and fired once each, Mack said.

Apparently, he said, Moody was hit by one of those shots. He said that a bullet from a small-caliber rifle struck her "toward the back of the head."

Mack said investigators believe that Moody was outside some feet away from one of the camp houses, although her exact location and exactly what she was doing had not been determined.

The two men who fired the shots "started trying to summon some medical help. It was on the island early in the morning, dark, and all the circumstances that could go bad went bad," the sheriff said.

He said that marks on the pier showed the place where the men loaded the wounded teen onto a boat as they sought medical attention for her. Mack said the men took her to the mainland, where emergency responders transported her to the University of South Alabama Medical Center in Mobile.

According to Mack, many other details, as well as a clear sequence of events, had yet to be pieced together.

The three male teens were taken to the Baldwin County Juvenile Detention Center in Bay Minette. Their names were not made public because of their ages.

Incident shares similarities to Trayvon Martin case?

Attempts to obtain clarification of state law regarding self-defense from the Attorney General’s Office were not successful Monday. An email seeking comment from Baldwin County District Attorney Hallie Dixon was not answered late Monday.

The newspaper, however, contacted Conecuh County District Attorney Tommy Chapman, who referenced the Florida law that has become a focus of the controversial Trayvon Martin shooting in that state.

"Alabama’s law is not quite like Florida’s ‘stand your ground law’ but it is close," Chapman said.

He said that Alabama citizens have a right to use deadly force against an aggressor to protect themselves or their property, but such cases hinge on the actual circumstances. He said that Alabama’s law has potential for abuse.

"I just believe that life is precious," Chapman said, "and the taking of a life should never be done without great consideration as to the necessity."

Family focused on remaining positive

Lewis, Moody’s mother, said that the family was "trying so hard to focus on positive thoughts and prayers for Summer."

She said, "All the negative things and innuendoes are not helpful. The main fact is there is a teenager fighting for her life. It doesn’t matter what the circumstances were that led us to this point. I’m sure it was not intentional, and was a huge accident that never should have happened, but it did.

"Now we need to let the police do their job ... I am asking that people support Summer with positive thoughts and prayers. Don’t hinder the police who are trying to find out what happened. Just remember she is a kid. She’s 17."

Lewis said that Moody, the second-youngest of five daughters, is vitally stable and intubated, and that the family was waiting to see if she regained full consciousness on her own.

She said, "We are dealing with her still being unresponsive, but she is no longer sedated. She is on pain medication, but not really responsive to us. They’ve done this latest CT scan and we are waiting for the result. The neurologist told us that this type of wound is 99 percent fatal. She lost four pints of blood that they replaced."

She said, "Her prognosis is not that good. Initially they told us she would have limited-to-no functionality, and they told us there was no way — she wasn’t expected to make it to 72 hours.

"The second CT scan said things were not as bad as they first thought, and we are hoping this third shows less damage. She has what they call purposeful movement, but she is not following commands."

Lewis said her daughter has been raising both arms, but not on command.

Lewis and her husband, Jason, are paramedics and live in Fairhope, she said. Moody’s father is Mark Moody, a longtime resident of Livingston.

Lewis described her daughter as a fun-loving teenager who finished high school in December and had landed a summer job at Lambert’s restaurant in Foley. She enjoys the beach and is "tender-hearted," her mother said, but also strong-willed.

The outpouring of support from churches and community members both here and from Livingston has been a help to the family, she said, especially from the emergency responders in the area.







Link to story: http://www.cyclingforums.com/t/466338/are-cyclists-that-carry-guns-paranoid-and-insecure-gun-fanatics/1290#post_4031979


And no...I wouldn't cycle around her or her crew without being armed. Actions have consequences and she chose poorly.



post #1296 of 1823

ST. LOUIS • Trailnet, an organization that promotes walking and biking in St. Louis, is warning cyclists to be aware after the boyfriend of one of its staff members was assaulted while biking home near the Missouri Botanical Garden Thursday night.

The organization's executive director, Ann Mack, said the staff member, who was riding with her boyfriend, reported that he was punched in the face by a group of six to 10 young men while they were on Tower Grove Avenue near Flad. The punch caused him to fall to the ground.  He did not have anything stolen from him, she said.

Mack said the couple saw another group of cyclists ahead who were also attacked. She said a man in that group was beat up when he tried to keep the group from stealing his bike.

The couple said police, who were called to the scene, told them they believed the attack was another example of the Knockout Kings game.

The game, apparently popular among teens and involving random attacks on unsuspecting people, gained attention earlier this year when Hoang D. Nguyen, 72, was fatally attacked while walking home from a market with his wife earlier this year in the Dutchtown West neighborhood.

There have been a handful of other reports of the "game" being played in St. Louis and the surrounding areas. It also been seen across the country in different variations. Police say, however, that it is hard to say with certainty whether an attack is motivated by the game without the suspect acknowledging it as such.

Police are still working to confirm the report from Trailnet. A spokeswoman said there were two calls around 10:30 p.m. from people who said they witnessed an attack on cyclists in that neighborhood, but when police arrived the victims were no longer there and no suspects matching the description could be found.

Read more: http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metro/article_d6584ce0-d00f-11e0-ae42-0019bb30f31a.html#ixzz1sJjFxAfY


Nope. No need to put the rabid animals down. None at all.

post #1297 of 1823

If only he had known Brazillian Monkey Fu!


Published on Monday 20 February 2012 16:02

A CYCLIST was attacked by three men as he rode through College Grove.


The 45-year-old victim was cycling along Westfield Road when three men jumped out and assaulted him.

The suspects ran off down a ginnel along side Bishopgarth and onto Bar Lane.

Two were aged in their 30s and the third suspect was aged about 16-years-old.

The incident happened on Tuesday, February 7, at 7.50pm.

Anyone with any information should contact the Central Neighbourhood Police Team on 101 or Crimestoppers, anonymously, on 0800 555 111.



post #1298 of 1823

Should have used a pistol on the thugs!


Even pro's need to be armed.


Movistar racer Andrey Amador is recovering in a hospital after muggers beat and left him unconscious in a Costa Rica riverbed over the weekend in an apparent robbery of his new Pinarello Dogma 60.1s bicycle.

Amador, 24, was on his final training ride of 2010 when thugs poured out of two passing vehicles near the Costa Rican capital of San José. They stole his bike and beat him so severely he was left unconscious for six hours in a riverbed alongside the roadway.

“They left him unconscious and very likely beat him some more. He was around six hours unconscious along a river and when he woke up, it was already late in the afternoon, and he called us and we went to pick him up,” recounted Iván Amador, the cyclist’s older brother, in a Movistar team release. “It appeared that he only had cuts and bruises, but the next morning he started to vomit and we had to take him to the hospital.”

Amador said his brother remains in a San José hospital where he is being treated for various injuries, including contusions to his lungs that make breathing difficult as well as paralysis of one of his kidneys due to the severity of the beating.

Amador, who has raced the past two seasons with Caisse d’Epargne, was set to race in the Tour de San Luís later this month in Argentina. It’s not sure how long he will be sidelined.

The thieves were likely targeting Amador’s brand-new blue and green Pinarello Dogma 60.1s bike that was handed out to Movistar riders at a team camp in Spain ahead of Christmas. The bike features the new electric Campagnolo group, so it could be quite easy to track the thieves if they try to sell such a unique bicycle on the open market.



post #1299 of 1823

Should have come up shooting!


After all, these attacks NEVER happen to anyone...


Oak Park Police Blotter, Feb. 13-20


A Berwyn woman riding her bike on the 1100 block of S. Oak Park Avenue was attacked by two young males at 11:50 p.m. Feb. 15. The thugs knocked the woman off her bike and stole her purse, which contained $70, credit cards and personal identification. They were last seen running southbound in the alley behind Oak Park Avenue.



post #1300 of 1823

Throw a brick...catch some lead!


Because these attacks never happen. Ever.


Brick-tossing teens have turned a major cycling route through a public housing project in Fort Greene into death trap, injuring or terrorizing at least six cyclists — one seriously — in a spate of attacks this year.

The attacks are launched from the maroon-colored pedestrian bridge that links the Walt Whitman and Ingersoll houses between Myrtle Avenue and Tillary Street.

In the most violent crime, the attackers pelted a computer programmer from Park Slope in the face with a brick, cracking his helmet and ripping a gash in his cheek on Aug. 12.

“It’s shocking unwarranted violence,” said the victim, Stephen Arthur, whose injuries were first reported by Gothamist, a blog. “This is a dangerous spot — something needs to be done.”

The brick busted his teeth and knocked him off his bike, requiring emergency surgery. The physical wounds have healed, but the mental scars linger; Arthur said that he has had trouble sleeping and has given up cycling, which he used to do every day.

“I don’t think my life will ever be the same,” he said.

The footbridge is a cowardly sadist’s dream: It sits above a well-used bike route that links Fort Greene and points south with the Manhattan Bridge, has a mesh cover that hides the perps, and is fenced off from the street, providing an easy get-away route.

“It’s definitely deliberate — but I don’t think it’s a ‘community vs. bikers’ thing,” said Yana Walton, who was hit with a fist full of rocks at the same location. “It’s a bunch of bored kids.”

Cyclist Erik Martig, who was grazed by a golf ball, confronted the teens who threw it, but the thugs got away.

“This could kill someone,” he said. “It’s like they think this is a video game or something.”

Other cyclists report being whacked with beer bottles, apples and water balloons at the same spot — although it’s unclear whether the same group of teens was involved in those attacks.

Police said that reports of violence have dwindled as the cold weather has reduced bicycle commuting, but cops are still hunting the attackers.

“We are working with the housing complex to increase patrol near the footbridge,” a spokeswoman for the 88th Precinct said.



post #1301 of 1823

By all means...give in to the thugs and stay off the bike path training route. Do not think of arming yourself and doing the right thing. Surrender. Or learn Akido! Train smart, indeed!


A cyclist was attacked on the MS river levee today around 6pm.  It was one mile north of Williams Blvd.  Five thugs hit this guy with a stick near the small bridge.  He didn’t fall off so kept riding to the Kenner police training center at Williams.  He was bleeding but OK.  

It is probably best not to ride alone past Williams Blvd, especially females.  If you are alone, you might want to turn before Williams and go back to Audubon Park and do loops if you have long mileage to do. 
Train smart,   “
Got to love the thugs of NOLA!
post #1302 of 1823

Gun or Akido? I'll use a pistol effectively when it comes to putting rabid animals down.


ST. LOUIS, MO. (KMOX) — There’s an alert out about recent assaults on bike riders in south St. Louis.

Trailnet.org, an organization that promotes hiking and biking, is cautioning riders to be on the alert for roving bands of teenagers who swarm and attack riders.

Trailnet says the latest attack was last Thursday (8/25) afternoon near Missouri Botanical Garden where a group of 10 to 15 African-American teens charged and attacked a cyclist.


“They weren’t really interested in robbing me. It just seemed like they wanted to beat me up,” says Ramirez. “They weren’t interested in letting me get off the ground and having a fair fight.”

Ramirez says he and his friends returned to the scene minutes later to help another bicyclist who was being beaten.

Police say there have been other, similar attacks in the city, and they believe all the victims are picked at random.

Mayor Francis Slay is calling for action, possibly with citizen bike patrols set up with the help of Trailnet and local police.

Police urge bike riders to be aware of their surrounding and call 911 when they see a swarm mob preparing an assault.




You loons take your ass-kicking and be sure to smile thru your busted up teeth.

post #1303 of 1823
Originally Posted by Froze View Post

 Zimmerman is in a world of trouble for shooting an unarmed person he thought was going for a weapon...at least that's what he claims.  But Zimmerman knew he had the power to shoot Trayvon and chased Trayvon after 911 operator told him not to.  Trayvon was running, the suppose threat was leaving.


You want to defend yourself against weirdos then take a lot of classes in some sort of martial art like Aikido mixed with Brazilian wrestling.  Because most surprise street fights are hand to hand combat not wild west gun fights.


But hey, you go on ahead and let paranoia run your life, it won't run mine.


What a bunch of crapola! I like most of your posts... but come on. Zimmerman is in a world of hurt because community activists [like our President] marched and threatened. Zimmerman is nothing less than a victim of a modern day Lynch mob. If a kid... aimlessly prowling around your gated neighborhood... in 73 degree high humidity... wearing a sweatshirt with the hoodie UP doesn't get neighborhood watches attention... what would.


I am highly trained in self defense. And I take good care of myself and try hard to stay fit. I really think in most cases I could take most men half my age. However... not many men in their thirty's are a real worry... and a couple teens (OK... or even ONE) could ware me down in short order. So.. what do I do?


Preparedness and and responsibility is now called paranoia? So what is cowering in fear of defending yourself called?


post #1304 of 1823

Watch out, Dave. I got my peepee slapped for speaking the truth about dayd Trayvon.


Here's a good one...bike-on-bike crime.


You stab me...I shoot you. You loons enjoy holding your intestines in while you wait for help to arrive.


9:26 PM, Feb 1, 2012   


MADEIRA BEACH, Fla. -- A 57-year-old bicyclist was stabbed and slashed in broad daylight Wednesday in an alley between Publix and the Intracoastal Waterway, the sheriff's office said.

Investigators said the victim was riding toward American Legion Drive when another man approached him on a bike, distracted him by saying he had dropped something off his bicycle, and attacked him with a knife when the victim stopped to look down.

He suffered a puncture wound to the stomach and slashes to his left arm, but managed to punch and fight off the suspect, who fled the scene.

The victim was taken to Bayfront Medical Center for treatment of non life-threatening injuries. His name is being withheld because his attacker is still at large.

The incident happened at 2:45 p.m. and prompted a land and air search of the area. The suspect took no valuables, deputies said, and was described only as a black male riding a bike.

Pinellas County Sheriff's Office



post #1305 of 1823

Stabby, stabby...Bang!...Bang!...Bang!!!


Never bring a knife to an Akido fight! Why, I once saw a Kung Fu monk on TV disarm a whole gang of knife-wielding wild west thugs!


Bicyclist attacked, stabbed numerous times outside of Walnut Creek

From today's Contra Costa Times:

Bicyclist attacked, stabbed numerous times outside of Walnut Creek
By Roman Gokhman
Contra Costa Times
Posted: 08/27/2009 09:47:05 PM PDT

WALNUT CREEK — Contra Costa sheriff's deputies are searching for three men who stabbed a man several times in the 2600 block of Kinney Drive in unincorporated Walnut Creek.

The attack occurred at 9:15 p.m. as the victim was riding his bicycle, sheriff's spokesman Jimmy Lee said. He told investigators that as he was riding near the intersection with Boulevard Way three men knocked him off his bike and began stabbing him in the upper torso, Sheriff's spokesman Jimmy Lee said.

The victim appeared to be alert when paramedics arrived to take him to a hospital.

Deputies surrounded the area and are searching for the assailant using police dogs and a helicopter, Lee said.

No further information was available Thursday evening.




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