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post #1336 of 1823

Second armed robbery on Bouder bike path

 

 

post #1337 of 1823

Unfortunately another disturbing crime on the Metropolitan Branch Trail (MBT). A reader sends a report from the MBT Yahoo group:

“From Commander Solberg (via ANC Commissioner Tim Clark) last night:

It appears to be a robbery involving three suspects. A shot was fired at the victim, and he was grazed but thankfully not seriously injured. It happened at 3rd and T Sts. about 6:15.

We have not made any arrests.”

Subsequent messages are unclear as to whether the actual incident took place on the trail or at 3rd and T St, NE.

UPDATE from MPD:

On Wednesday, January 25, 2012, at approximately 6:15 pm, an area resident was walking on the Metropolitan Branch Bike Trail in the area of 3rd & R Street, Northeast, when he was accosted by three individuals. One subject produced a weapon and demanded the victim’s possessions. After complying and without provocation, the victim was punched in the face. The victim then attempted to flee from the scene and sustained a graze gunshot wound to the hip area after the suspect fired his weapon.

All three suspects then fled on foot. The victim received treatment for his injuries and an area hospital. The Metropolitan Police Department continues its investigation into the identity of these three individuals.

To ensure this area remains safe for all, the bike trail will be monitored and patrolled by officers on a regular basis.

Capt. Jeff Brown

Category: Bike, Crime, Top Stories

By: Prince Of Petworth | 26 January 2012 1:15 PM | 30 Comments

 

 

http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2012/01/man-shot-at-robbed-on-metropolitan-branch-trail/

post #1338 of 1823

Whittier cyclists under attack; female rider severely beaten in most recent assault

A 19-year old woman was severely beaten after being knocked off her bike on a Whittier bike path.

According to the Los Angeles Times, the attack took place on Wednesday around 10:30 pm on the Greenway Trail, a Class 1 off-road bike path between Painter and Greenleaf Avenues when three or four men in dark clothing pushed her off her bike. Her attackers then punched her repeatedly in the face and body, and may have kicked her, as well.

Authorities report she suffered injuries to her face, teeth, hands and elbows, as well as losing consciousness for a period of time; she was reportedly awake when police and firefighters arrived on the scene, and was transported to a local hospital.

The suspects fled when other people approached. Police say she was not robbed and the motive for the attack is unknown.

However, KTLA reports that there have been at least three other attacks in the same pathway in the past month. In one case, a man was able to fight off an attacker who tried to steal his bike, while a 16-year old boy was arrested for allegedly grabbing another man and demanding his money; no information was available on the other attack.

These cases are reminiscent of the reports of attacks on cyclists riding along the Ballona Creek bike path a few years back, and point out the inherent problem with off-road bikeways.

While they can offer a pleasant respite from the headaches and risks of riding busy streets, they are often largely isolated and hidden from public view, providing secluded areas where criminal activity may occur.

And most are rarely, if ever, patrolled by police.

In fact, when cyclists tried to report the Ballona Creek attacks, 911 operators and police officers reportedly had difficulty even identifying where the bike path was and who had jurisdiction in order to respond.

Fortunately, the Ballona attacks proved to be the rare exception, rather than the rule on that pathway, though the reports circulated widely enough that many cyclists still express reservations about riding there.

Hopefully, this latest, unidentified victim will recover from her injuries — both physical and emotional — and get back on her bike soon.

And greater enforcement will improve safety for everyone on Whittier’s Greenway Trail.

 

http://bikinginla.wordpress.com/2011/06/30/whittier-cyclists-under-attack-female-rider-severely-beaten-in-most-recent-assault/

 

post #1339 of 1823
Thread Starter 

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by tonyzackery View Post

Sad.

A person that lives in the prison of their mind's own creation.

Scared.  Paranoid.  Insecure.  Seeing the boogieman in every person.

Only making notice of the worst in society.  Totally overlooking the good in people.

The entrenched 'me against them' mentality - "but I'm prepared".  There is more to life, living - and most of all, cycling - than that.

Sad.

 

bump. 

 

Spamming the thread now (edit) again, and consistently reinforcing the title line.  Well done.


Edited by tonyzackery - 4/19/12 at 10:27am
post #1340 of 1823

Acting like a moron and not offering one shred of rebuttal to the facts presented. Well done.

 

This one isn't directly related to cycling, but does very well reflect the state of affairs of the broken human race. More libtard wealth re-distributionist animals that need to be put down. Rabid animals that should be terminated with extreme prejudice. Hopefully they all will be tried as adults and sentenced to death (God bless Texas!). Yet another reason to be armed and ready to defend your life from society's rejects.

 

This happened just the other day.

 

It could well be you tomorrow.

 

Victim or victor...you decide.

 

 

4 teens charged with killing homeless man who had just $1 when robbed

Four Houston teens have been charged with killing a homeless man who had just $1 on him when he resisted being robbed.

The youngest of the accused, a 16-year-old girl, told police they had found $2 on Pedro Miguel Rosales Ramos, 32, but police later determined that she had seen a single dollar bill torn in half, the Houston Chronicle reported.

"They killed a man for a one dollar bill torn in half," said Houston Police Sgt. Brian Harris.


Police said one of the teens, Carlos Fernandez, 18, confessed to the killing and that the four had initially talked about robbing prostitutes but changed their minds when they came across Rosales Ramos on April 4.

 

Fernandez, Marilyn Villarreal, 18, and Michael Correa, 17, went before a judge Wednesday on murder charges. The 16-year-old has also been charged but not named because she is a minor.

Police noted that the four came from what most would consider good families, KHOU-TV reported, particularly the 16-year-old.

"She’s sitting in a queen-size feather bed, watching her 32-inch plasma TV and living in the lap of luxury," Detective Fil Waters said in describing the girl's surroundings at the time of her arrest.

 

None of the suspects have shown remorse, Waters added.

 

"There were some tears, but not for Pedro -- for themselves," KHOU-TV quoted him as saying.

Two of the teens are also suspected in at least one recent home invasion robbery in the Houston area, Click2Houston.com reported.

 

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/19/11286210-4-teens-charged-with-killing-homeless-man-who-had-just-1-when-robbed?lite

 

We live among human shitstains. 

 

Spam? More like another fact that just slammed into your dense head at the speed of light. Ignore them at your own risk.

 

 

 

post #1341 of 1823
Thread Starter 

Show the world how tough and brave you are:  pull the sheet off your head and identify yourself.

Stand up in front of your convictions and beliefs for which you're never without your sidearm to protect.

I didn't think so.  Oh so easy to spout your nonsense in anonymity, isn't it?  No concern to being held accountable or responsible to your hatred.

 

An individual that apparently resides amongst the Amish and harbors such vile hatred and drivel.  Amazing.  You'd think he lived in the heart of some major metropolis, not the bucolic suburbs of some midwestern state. 

 

Obviously the individual spends far too much time in front of the tv set and on the web surfing for material to support his puckered sphincter.  Sad.

post #1342 of 1823

CampyBob, slow down, slow way down.  There are not many here who would disagree about killing an intruder in ones own home.  If an intruder enters the house illegally then more then likely he's up to no good and should be dwelt with the reasoning of the home owner that the intruder's intent is to cause bodily harm to the occupants of the home.  Therefore to stop the intruder from causing bodily harm to ones own family members we need to, and should, and be legally able to with the full support of the law and no repercussions from either the law or civil courts to shoot to kill the intruder, no questions asked.  

 

I think those few who would disagree about killing an intruder are just plain ignorant and have no clue about what an intruder may do to their families, like kill the husband, rape the wife and daughter and then kill them when he's done.  One should always assume the worse if an intruder enters your home, and in that light you should, and have the sense of defending your family against such a thing with all the power you have at your disposal, be it guns, knives, hand to hand, lamp stand, whatever.

 

But your constant ranting about attacks against bikers is boring.  It does nothing.  What is your agenda to be constantly listing ancient history about such stuff?  To inflict paranoia on us?  We should all arm ourselves while riding?  If you knew anything at all, and read my posts, and read the very same posts you posted about all the attacks, you would know that all these attacks came by surprise and there was no time for the victim to get a gun to defend him/her self.  I know Akidio very well, but even if I was knocked off my bike and was severely wounded in the ensuing crash or by something that hit me in the head then I crashed, I may not have the physical power left to defend myself not alone grab a gun while being plummeled.  

 

Schit happens.  But this schit that happens is rare.  It would be far wiser for us as riders to avoid paths in unsafe areas, to be aware of our surroundings and if something looks out of sorts get off the path or turn around and leave.  Most of crimes are crimes of opportunity, the victim is not aware of their surroundings.  The same is true with most bicycle related accidents involving cars, the rider was not aware of their surroundings.  

 

And you can't ask the local law enforcement to patrol these areas, their stretched too thin now between lack of man power and lack of funds to be asked to patrol an entire bike path, and since these attacks are extremely rare there's no sense in it.  And cops will patrol an area if crime goes above that which is considered to be normal, but not until then.

 

 

post #1343 of 1823

pull the sheet off your head and identify yourself.

 

Wait...wut? Did you just call me a sheethead? Damn!

 

You would have hurt my 'feelings', but I a traded them for a 1967 Norton Commando in a Featherbed frame by Rickman back in 1972. So sorry.

 

Do I really have to post my Grand Wizard Offishul Membership Card to make your dumb ass happy?

 

Better go post 'bump' or some other moronic nonsense. You're pretty good at that.

 

Well, off to my neighborhood cross burning! Them Amish roast a great schnitzeldoodle over the fire! And after we sing "Way down south in the land of cotton" (in High German, of course) the Right Reverend Billy Saul Hargas is leading us a rousing rendition of" Pinarello Uber Alles". I'ld invite you to come attend and git religion and stuff, but frankly, Uncle Ted used the best one liners about Klan meetings this week.

 

Praise the Lawd & pass the ammunition!

 

Kind Regards,

CampyBob

post #1344 of 1823
Thread Starter 

I didn't think so.

post #1345 of 1823

But your constant ranting about attacks against bikers is boring.

 

...and yet you reply over and over and over. I guess you find them exciting and topical. Or you just like to argue nonsense.

 

It does nothing.

 

Neither do my beer goggles. Regardless, I still try to drink ugly women into beauties.

 

What is your agenda to be constantly listing ancient history about such stuff?

 

To inform. It's working, thanks to the loons. "Bump!" "Sad!" "Herp Derp!"

 

To inflict paranoia on us?

 

Great Scot, heavens no! Far be it from me to illuminate a dark path for those that look, but can not see.

 

We should all arm ourselves while riding?

 

Not all. Most. Obviously, those mental defectives, 'fraidy cats, liberals, winers, bed-wetters and any dumb enough to have voted for Odumbo should OBVIOUSLY not have access to firearms. Hint: there's been a few in this thread!

 

If you knew anything at all, and read my posts, and read the very same posts you posted about all the attacks, you would know that all these attacks came by surprise and there was no time for the victim to get a gun to defend him/her self.

 

Holy cow! Did YOU read the account of the Reading, Pennsylvania cyclist's attack? The very one I've recounted the details of in this very thread? Twice?

 

OK...one more time...

 

Once upon a time...in a land far, far away...also inhabited by the Good Amish...there lived an aged cyclist. A man of 65 long years on this planet. A peaceful 65 years during which time he had felt the need to shoot...NOBODY!

 

One day, our aged cyclist was training out on the gentrified cycling path, as was his habit for many, many years of exercise and relaxation. It was mellow.

 

As he pedalled in a carefree manner down the bike trail, he was suddenly set upon by three young highwaymen! Talk about harshing his mellow!!!

 

"Oh no!" cried our hero as the first urban ute...er...bold highwayman SUCKER PUNCHED the old geezer...er...aged cyclist of 65 years in the face. HARD! And this doth knocked EVERYMAN on his keister! No warning!

 

While cycling dood layed out on the pavement, wondering what yonder wagon hath struck him such leaden blow as to take his faithful stead, Sir Raleigh of International, right smartly from underneath his saddled arse! When suddenly and with equal force, highwayman number two shouted, "Stand and Deliver!", as he put a size 12 boot to EVERYMAN'S head with such great effort that he nearly spilled his mead in doing so!

 

ALAS! Forsooth! And knave! Our poor, unfortunate hero was down, but not out!!!

 

For under his cloak he carried dirk and dagger...and a fine Kel-Tec 9MM semi-automatic pistol to deal with such rogues and scoundrels!

 

Forthwith, he shouted, "Give me whiskey for my jarrro!!!", and he shot!

 

BANG! went the little pistol!

 

The bullet was as true as his steady aim and doth pierced the black heart of the Black Knight of the Ghetto Forest, Sir Orange Joolius-a-Lot...who fell mortally wounded muttering something missing tonight's MTV rap episode.

 

BANG! went the little pistol again!

 

Again, with true aim and a hearty, "High Ho, Silverado Savings & Loan!", the round penetrated the throat of thugee number 2.

 

Highwayman number 3, being a little bitch, ran off into the urban woods, pissing himself mightily as he shuffled off to Buffalo with his urban pants hanging down around his knees and his hoodie flailing wildly in the breeze!

 

"Nice shooting!", said all the local cops!

 

"Thanks for uping our schools' rating!", said the principal!

 

"Let's draw a chaulk outline!", said the coroner!

 

"We owe this citizen a medal", said the King of Pennsylvannia.

 

"Can I buy you a fresh box of hollowpoints?!", said CampyBob.

 

And everyone lived happily ever after! Well...everyone except Orange Joolius, that is.

 

The moral of our little passion play...your theory has more holes in it than Orange Joolius! Don't ever bring it up again lest ye be taunted and deservedly so.

 

Sheesh! 

 

I know Akidio very well, but even if I was knocked off my bike and was severely wounded in the ensuing crash or by something that hit me in the head then I crashed, I may not have the physical power left to defend myself not alone grab a gun while being plummeled.

 

Good for you. I know how to do tactical reloads. Big deal. I'll take my chances WITH a pistol. You go into that good night any way that puts a smile on your face.

 

Schit happens. But this schit that happens is rare.

 

Jezus H. Tapdancing Krist on rollerblades...how many more accounts of violence do you need posted before it dawns on you that morons are anything BUT rare in life?

 

It would be far wiser for us as riders to avoid paths in unsafe areas, to be aware of our surroundings and if something looks out of sorts get off the path or turn around and leave. Most of crimes are crimes of opportunity, the victim is not aware of their surroundings. The same is true with most bicycle related accidents involving cars, the rider was not aware of their surroundings.

 

AT LAST!!! SOMETHING...Mother of God...SOMETHING, I can agree with! Praise the Lord!

 

Frankly, there is NO safe place. Ask Tony Baloney to tell you all about the well liked store worker in his area that had his head lopped of while walking on the local bike trail. Randon crap is random, be it sure as hell can't hurt to be prepared. Fire...fire extinguiser, even though you've never had your house burn down, eh. Patch kit? I haven't punctured in over a season and a half! Guess I should toss it in the trash!

 

Pistol? Well, the cyclist in Reading, Pennsylvania made it 65 years without having to send a dumbass to hades, now did he? Read! Listen! Learn!

 

Or remain the same. Just stop spouting unsupported bullshit.

 

And you can't ask the local law enforcement to patrol these areas, their stretched too thin now between lack of man power and lack of funds to be asked to patrol an entire bike path, and since these attacks are extremely rare there's no sense in it. And cops will patrol an area if crime goes above that which is considered to be normal, but not until then.

 

I carry a pistol because a cop won't fit in my jersey pocket. When seconds count, the police are only minutes away!

 

YOU are responsible for your safety. Not the cops. And not me. I don't give a shit if someone draws a chalk line around you. As long as it isn't me, it was a good day. There's others out there that read AND learn. Sadly, 50% of the people are below average for starters. There's no reaching them, but they do make great examples for others to learn by.

 

BTW, I rode 35 miles this afternoon and no one died! LOL! No rational person wants to kill anyone. But, sometimes, it just has to happen.

 


Edited by CAMPYBOB - 4/19/12 at 5:36pm
post #1346 of 1823

I didn't think so.

 

Fixed that for ya, Cleetus.

 

No need to thank me. My pleasure, good sir.

post #1347 of 1823
Thread Starter 

Must be very pleasing to have the ability to hide by way of the net.  So easy to be a tough guy.  Lame.

Foregone conclusion, but thought I'd offer the challenge regardless.  There are choice adjectives for yellow characters that hide behind objects and throw things...

Little wonder the likes of his kind needs a gun.

post #1348 of 1823

Must be very pleasing to have the ability to hide by way of the net. So easy to be a tough guy. Lame.

Foregone conclusion, but thought I'd offer the challenge regardless. There are choice adjectives for yellow characters that hide behind objects and throw things...

Little wonder the likes of his kind needs a gun.

 

English. Do you speak it?

 

I mean, if it's a second (or third) language for you, my apologies.

 

Hey, Tony...did they ever find the scumbag that hacked the head damned near clean off that store clerk out you way? Or does that one still hang out in your AO?

 

Maybe you can train in a steel turtle-neck jersey this season?

post #1349 of 1823

Here toy go!

 

Now, one of the guys will claim 2011 is ancient history, another will herp derp, still another will eat SPAM and at least one call "no bicycle" in the story.

 

And yet, a young man is still dead that just MIGHT be alive had he had a pistol in his pocket.

 

We now return you to our regularly scheduled herp-a-derp.

 

Learn or learn not, there is no try.

 

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/world/52993509-68/grubbs-police-town-haddick.html.csp

 

 

Murder most foul: Clerk decapitated in Oregon’s Shakespeare town

 
First Published Nov 26 2011 06:56 am • Last Updated Dec 06 2011 02:38 pm

ASHLAND, Ore. • In this storybook Southern Oregon town, murder is commonplace on the stages of the Oregon Shakespeare Festival, where sword fights are carefully choreographed entertainment, and the blood that spurts is fake.

The real-life slaying of a young grocery clerk nearly decapitated by an apparent stranger wielding a sword or machete has sent a shiver of horror through residents and visitors alike, and stumped investigators desperately searching for clues.

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A small shrine is growing on the side of the bike path where 23-year-old David Grubbs was killed last weekend while walking home from work, the way he had countless times, just as darkness was falling. It’s an open place next to a parking lot where the path goes through a park with ball fields and tennis courts — and past an elementary school — where parents bring their small children to play.

"I’m freaking out," said Zhawen Wahpepah, who came to the shrine Friday morning with her boyfriend, August Haddick, to burn sage and leave a booklet of music that she and Grubbs had played together as members of a school chamber orchestra. She added it to the candles, flowers, carrot cake, NY Times Sunday crossword puzzle, music CDs, photos, and lyrics from the song, "Stairway to Heaven." They were all carefully placed on the ground next to a green metal cross painted with the name David and driven into the ground.

"I think it was a thrill kill," said Wahpepah. Grubbs "was not into anything bad. He was just really shy and really nice," she added.

"I used to walk this way home, and now I don’t anymore because of this," said Haddick, who worked stocking shelves at the Shop’n Kart grocery with Grubbs. Living in the same student neighborhood, they often walked home together, but the night of the slaying, Haddick’s schedule had him working three hours later, so Grubbs walked home alone.

When Haddick drove by last Saturday night with a friend, the spot was cordoned off by police, blue lights flashing in the darkness. Haddick didn’t know until the next day, when the "Rest in Peace" tributes appeared on Facebook, that Grubbs had been killed.

"It’s hard to imagine it could just as easily have been me," he said.

Ashland is a liberal outpost in conservative rural Oregon. The town of 20,000 just a few miles north of the California border is known for good schools, good restaurants, high housing prices, and deer that walk freely through town. Many residents are happy to work at low-paying jobs serving tourists for the chance to live here.

"It’s like this little paradise," said Brenna Heater, who knew Grubbs growing up and now works behind the counter of a downtown pizza joint. "The fairytale land is like the definition to us. I always use the word magical — our little magical Ashland. New people are coming here every day. The Shakespeare festival keeps this town upbeat and hip."

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Police have little to go on. No one has come forward to say they witnessed the slaying. No weapon has been found. The 911 call came from a woman riding her bike down the path, who was stopped by a man who found Grubbs lying in the bike path. They initially thought Grubbs was passed out, but on looking closer saw the deep wounds around his head and neck, said Police Chief Terry Holderness. Investigators don’t think either of them had anything to do with the slaying. The woman saw a man leaving the area, but didn’t get a good look at him. Police have not found him.

"This community has very little crime of any type, especially violent crime," said Holderness. "To have this type of thing happen anywhere is very rare. We are contacting most major police departments up and down the West Coast looking for similar situations and haven’t found any yet."

There was a machete attack about 100 miles north in the small town of Sutherlin, but police have ruled out any connection.

"Most homicide involves a person who commits the crime with some relationship to the victim," Holderness said. "This might truly be random, which is very unusual for this type of crime. It makes it more likely to put other community members at risk."

A random attack ending with near-decapitation is so rare that investigators have been unable to find an expert, Holderness added. There is not even enough information to develop a profile of the killer.

Friday morning, Jackson County sheriff’s Det. Colin Fagan stopped by to look over the killing ground again, hoping that something new might catch his eye. He found a branch lying on the ground, which might have been cut by a big blade before being broken off. But the cut looked old. Fagan stood in a bed of Oregon grape bushes where a killer might have hidden, looked behind a nearby shed, and examined trees for cut marks. Finding none, he drove away.

The attack did not stop joggers and bikers from using the path. David Steinfeld, a forest restoration specialist with the U.S. Forest Service, stopped to look at the shrine while jogging with his two sons: Joel, who works in public relations in Portland, and Logan, an industrial designer in San Francisco.

 

 

post #1350 of 1823
Thread Starter 

Hmmm, there are how many murders in the world every day?

Better get prepared with that RPG for 'just in case purposes'.  Paranoia.

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