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post #211 of 1823
10/18/08 at 4:15pm

Re: Are cyclists that carry guns paranoid and insecure gun fanatics?

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Originally Posted by CAMPYBOB
To be fair to John McCain, they broke the mold after Barry Goldwater.
McCain does not deserve any fariness. Goldwater would never have put the country in danger by placing an intellectual midget like Palin on the ticket.
post #212 of 1823
10/18/08 at 5:01pm

Re: Are cyclists that carry guns paranoid and insecure gun fanatics?

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Originally Posted by cbjesseeNH
OK - I see the rules. Those desiring to flog people who carry guns while cycling can post anything they want, but those supporting such carry are "off-topic" if they post more than "No". Only opinions and insults are accepatble as "On-Topic" posts, eh?
Nope, you've got that wrong - it's now open season on people from Ohio and possibly those from Arizona.

Which begs the question, if you move from Ohio to Arizona, what does that say about you?
post #213 of 1823
10/18/08 at 6:53pm

Re: Are cyclists that carry guns paranoid and insecure gun fanatics?

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Originally Posted by matagi
Nope, you've got that wrong - it's now open season on people from Ohio and possibly those from Arizona.

Which begs the question, if you move from Ohio to Arizona, what does that say about you?
Ask Alienator. He has first hand experience!
post #214 of 1823
10/18/08 at 7:04pm

Re: Are cyclists that carry guns paranoid and insecure gun fanatics?

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Originally Posted by cbjesseeNH
I do, of course, empathize with people in countries deprived of the right to self-defense,
Don't worry, we don't need your empathy. You should save it for the next high school massacre.
post #215 of 1823
10/18/08 at 7:26pm
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Re: Are cyclists that carry guns paranoid and insecure gun fanatics?

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Originally Posted by CAMPYBOB
Is There a Relationship between Guns and Freedom? Comparative Results from 59 Nations
This paper relates to nations, and not individual states within that nation. Your statement made reference to freedoms that have allegedly accrued to residents of Arizona due to Arizona's (one particular state within the nation) high percentage of firearm ownership. There is a difference. Irrespective of the author's hypothesis, I don't believe there is a cause-and-effect relationship between the two. I'm not interested in debating this, so don't bother...

Furthermore, I'm not interested in doing any research as I'm considerably disinterested in arguing gun rights, but I'm sure there are any number of research papers available that will speak to the non-positive aspects of a nation's high percentage of firearm ownership...
post #216 of 1823
10/18/08 at 7:29pm
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Re: Are cyclists that carry guns paranoid and insecure gun fanatics?

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Originally Posted by cbjesseeNH
OK - I see the rules. Those desiring to flog people who carry guns while cycling can post anything they want, but those supporting such carry are "off-topic" if they post more than "No". Only opinions and insults are accepatble as "On-Topic" posts, eh?

Anecdotal examples are rejected, recent news articles are discarded and statistics are right out, straight away. None of that - no - just unsupported opinions and insults, thank you.

SO, just for the moment, I'll stay "On-Topic", even if I don't add the seemingly obligatory insults:

Yes - Any cyclists riding in Canada, UK and Australia who cary guns while cycling MAY be paranoid and insecure, but MUST, without a doubt, be felons for illegal possession and carry of of a gun.

But any of you folks who have no choice to legally carry a gun - do chime in how others should choose.

I have no problems about other Americans argueing when to exercise their right or not, but find those who lack any such right joining in on the arguement to be merely annoying. (Americans living abroad who have yielded their rights by choice are particularly annoying.)

I do, of course, empathize with people in countries deprived of the right to self-defense, with firearms or otherwise.

But I neglect yet another apparent thread rule - any American who dares comment on circumstances in a country where ownership or use of firearms for self-defense is banned, feel free to triple up on the insults and lambast that American with indignity.
LOL! I got some really good extra old white cheddar cheese to go along with your whine... LOL!
post #217 of 1823
10/18/08 at 8:09pm

Re: Are cyclists that carry guns paranoid and insecure gun fanatics?

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Let 2.71% Kentucky
declaring victory?
Put in as many decimal places as you like, it's still an opinion.
post #218 of 1823
10/18/08 at 8:16pm

Re: Are cyclists that carry guns paranoid and insecure gun fanatics?

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Originally Posted by CAMPYBOB
i sure hope they dont eat here...
Needless to say...that's an american site...
post #219 of 1823
10/18/08 at 9:21pm

Re: Are cyclists that carry guns paranoid and insecure gun fanatics?

I'm not interested in debating this, so don't bother...

Yeah, we know, but you're the moron that asked.

I don't believe there is a cause-and-effect relationship between the two.

What you 'believe' doesn't matter. Much the same as what you 'feel'. The facts are there as is the data. States, nations, cities, counties, neighborhoods...right down to your own sorry self the truths remain the same regardless of what you 'believe'.

Once again, your 'debating' skills do not fail to disappoint.
post #220 of 1823
10/18/08 at 9:34pm

Re: Are cyclists that carry guns paranoid and insecure gun fanatics?

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Originally Posted by CAMPYBOB
And to think, the English shipped off its' most insane morons to...Australia! It figures!
The truth is that Britain sent 50-60,000 convicts to America, mostly to Virginia, Maryland and Pennsylvania. Given that they were sent there before transportation to Australia began, it's reasonable to assume that there are just as many descendants of transported convicts in the USA as there are in Australia.
But Americans don't much like to confront the more unsavoury aspects of their past.
post #221 of 1823
10/18/08 at 9:36pm

Re: Are cyclists that carry guns paranoid and insecure gun fanatics?

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Originally Posted by CAMPYBOB
I'm

the moron
post #222 of 1823
10/18/08 at 9:51pm

Re: Are cyclists that carry guns paranoid and insecure gun fanatics?

And to think, the English shipped off its' most insane morons to...Australia!

Stevie lives in...Australia.

It figures!

No coincidence, just the result of criminals inbreeding.
post #223 of 1823
10/18/08 at 9:54pm

Re: Are cyclists that carry guns paranoid and insecure gun fanatics?

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Originally Posted by CAMPYBOB
And to think, the English shipped off its' most insane morons to...Australia!

Stevie lives in...Craggy Island.

It figures!

No coincidence, just the result of criminals inbreeding.
And the USA had 50-60,000 transported convicts who have been inbreeding for much longer....
BTW, Pennsylvania (where many of the American convicts were sent) is quite close to Ohio, isn't it?
post #224 of 1823
10/19/08 at 1:12am

Re: Are cyclists that carry guns paranoid and insecure gun fanatics?

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Originally Posted by tonyzackery
Personally, I feel safe with a spare tube and tire levers, some liquid, a little cash, my identification, and a cell phone...
Sometimes I wish I had one. But I'd probably get myself in whole lot of trouble.
post #225 of 1823
10/19/08 at 1:30am
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Re: Are cyclists that carry guns paranoid and insecure gun fanatics?

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Originally Posted by CAMPYBOB
I'm not interested in debating this, so don't bother...

Yeah, we know, but you're the moron that asked.

I don't believe there is a cause-and-effect relationship between the two.

What you 'believe' doesn't matter. Much the same as what you 'feel'. The facts are there as is the data. States, nations, cities, counties, neighborhoods...right down to your own sorry self the truths remain the same regardless of what you 'believe'.

Once again, your 'debating' skills do not fail to disappoint.
You are quite the 'spin doctor', aren't you?? You gun guys are like that; doesn't bother me though - most amusing really...

And no, I didn't ask for a debate - I asked for you to expand on your comment; which you failed to do, mind you. Regardless of how you FEEL about it, the author of this paper took liberties in suggesting a cause-and-effect relationship between high gun ownership and freedoms when applying his theory to the present day. This may have been true to a certain extent in the past, but not in the present.

And let me make this clear for you as it appears you too are confused as to my position in this matter - I AM NOT AGAINST LEGAL GUN OWNERSHIP; I BELIEVE CYCLISTS THAT CARRY GUNS WHILE OUT RIDING THEIR BIKES ARE PARANOID AND INSECURE GUN FANATICS. I hope that is clear enough for you. I don't have the time or energy to argue gun rights with you or anyone else...
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