Re: Specialized Roubaix vs. Trek Madone
Originally Posted by alfeng
Well, don't make the SAME mistake of NOT basing your buying decision on the length of the frame's top tube ...
OR, opt for a shorter stem AND/OR bars which have a shorter forward reach ...
OR, rotate the bars & remount the brake levers to fit the frame to YOU vs. the "mechanic" who set up the bike at the shop/factory.
Between the two choices, FWIW, I would opt for the Trek mainly becauase I also think those Zertz inserts are a gimmick -- one which could be a potential problem at some point down the road ... maybe, after you no longer own the bike, but at some point in time.
Responding in the manner that I should have originally . . . .
This time around I am doing plenty of research and am actually going for a fitting. One thing I have noticed though, regarding the length of the top tube, is that it can actually be just as long on some models, like the Specialized Roubaix, but that it slopes at a greater angle towards the seat tube.
I actually did try several stems - going from the original 120 mm to a 110 to a 100 and finally ending up with a 90. I even tried an adjustable stem but my pride wouldn't let me use it. Stupid. I know.
My LBS actually worked with me a lot to get it to fit properly but I was coming off a Giant OCR3, with a much different geometry, and thought the Tarmac felt great while I road it around the p-lot for the 10 minute "test" ride. This time around, even though I have basically settled on the Roubaix, I will be riding a few different bikes to see how they feel in comparison. It's kind of hard right now with all the snow and ice on not only the road but all over the p-lot.
The zerts inserts may be a gimmick but there is a marked difference between the Tarmac I rode (without the inserts) and the Roubaix a friend of mine owns. I took a spin on his at the end of the summer, riding the same route I used to ride on my Tarmac, and there really was a noticeable difference.
Thanks again for your thoughts and advice on the matter. I am a much more knowledgeable consumer this time around.
Again, sorry for the pissy attitude. As you can see from the hour that I am writing this, sleep is still eluding me.