or Connect
Cycling Forums › Forums › Bikes › Professional Cycling › Has the UCI dumped Armstrong ?
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Has the UCI dumped Armstrong ? - Page 8

post #106 of 292

Re: Has the UCI dumped Armstrong ?

Quote:
Originally Posted by fscyclist
The tester, being a Frenchman, would not go anywhere near a shower.
I thought that only applied to french women??
(only joking Poulidor! ).
post #107 of 292
Thread Starter 

Re: Has the UCI dumped Armstrong ?

Quote:
Originally Posted by obxbes
Lance twittered
Got his shower under 10 minutes!!!!!!!!!!!
The French are a joke.
Not good enough. 10 minutes, 20 minutes or 2 hours. You're not to leave the line of sight from the tester. I would think Armstrong is more a joke thinking that he could break the rules & get away with it. The UCI bent the doping rules for him for the TDU so let's not do it again.
post #108 of 292

Re: Has the UCI dumped Armstrong ?

A few years ago, it was sort of clever for Armstrong to stir up nationalistic emotions in his crusade against a positive test. Now, his campaign which suggests the French are out to get him is old and tired. He needs some new material.

Why couldn't this ****wad just fade away?
post #109 of 292

Re: Has the UCI dumped Armstrong ?

Quote:
Originally Posted by limerickman
I thought that only applied to french women??
(only joking Poulidor! ).
I want to explain why we had that bad reputation...we "must" thanks L'Oreal for that. To increase their sells of soap, and other toilets products they made advertissing that we were dirty, that was just after WWII. Of course, they wer a bit right that people could be cleaner but we were not dirtier than others at that time.
And now L'Oreal is world leader cosmetics...
post #110 of 292

Re: Has the UCI dumped Armstrong ?

Quote:
Originally Posted by poulidor
I want to explain why we had that bad reputation...we "must" thanks L'Oreal for that. To increase their sells of soap, and other toilets products they made advertissing that we were dirty, that was just after WWII. Of course, they wer a bit right that people could be cleaner but we were not dirtier than others at that time.
And now L'Oreal is world leader cosmetics...
Yeah, lack of hygiene was the genesis for the perfume industry too.

That info about L'Oreal is very interesting though.
post #111 of 292

Re: Has the UCI dumped Armstrong ?

Quote:

Contacted by Cyclingnews on Thursday evening, UCI president Pat McQuaid said that the UCI would wait until an AFLD decision before commenting in depth on the Lance Armstrong situation. However in reading between the lines, it sounded like things could potentially become quite complex.

"I sent them a letter yesterday saying we don't have jurisdiction in this matter," confirmed McQuaid, backing up the assertion by the AFLD that the UCI said it was allowed to start a proceeding. "It is a French national affair under French law.

"At this point in time, it is up to the AFLD whether they want to progress with this or not. If they do, if they give a sanction, then I will ask our lawyers to look at the case as to whether a sanction would be applicable [worldwide] under UCI rules or not," said McQuaid.

"We will wait and see what happens. As far as we are aware, he hasn't broken either UCI or WADA rules," he continued.


http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?...pr09/apr10news
... and what is it with the various French and Italian drug testing agencies that takes them no long to decide whether they want to follow up with a case. May? Fark, it can't be that hard to decide whether you want to press charges or not. How many meetings do you need if you have several people in a room looking at the same paper work to decide "Did he break rule x.x.x or not?"

**** it takes them longer to do that than it took them to show the Germans the way to Paris...
post #112 of 292

Re: Has the UCI dumped Armstrong ?

Ah, the French are dirty, smelly cowards stuff again. You know, it really is amazing how defensive you guys get for Lance, even to the point of bigotry. That's a bit embarrassing, the depths of the mancrush.

(Course, considering that the French saved our ass during the American Revolution, WWII was just returning the favor.)
post #113 of 292

Re: Has the UCI dumped Armstrong ?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Leafer
Ah, the French are dirty, smelly cowards stuff again. You know, it really is amazing how defensive you guys get for Lance, even to the point of bigotry. That's a bit embarrassing, the depths of the mancrush.

(Course, considering that the French saved our ass during the American Revolution, WWII was just returning the favor.)
The anti-French racist bull**** spouted by some on here is a joke. This is patently obvious but apparently needs pointing out: if it wasn't for the French who the fanboys so despise there would be no Tour de France! No Lance Armstrong all conquering myth.
He broke the rules. If he'd done the same to a US dope tester or a UCI dope tester it would still have been an infringement of the rules.
post #114 of 292

Re: Has the UCI dumped Armstrong ?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rolfrae
The anti-French racist bull**** spouted by some on here is a joke.
Not only that, but potentially also gender-insensitive remarks abound in this forum. It's as if certain people did not have the capability (or desire) to reason based on other aspects.
post #115 of 292

Re: Has the UCI dumped Armstrong ?

Quote:
Originally Posted by musette
Not only that, but potentially also gender-insensitive remarks abound in this forum. It's as if certain people did not have the capability (or desire) to reason based on other aspects.
If you can't win an argument resort to name-calling. It's all about distracting attention from your opponent's message. Or, as you say, maybe they're just too dumb to debate.
post #116 of 292

Re: Has the UCI dumped Armstrong ?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rolfrae
If you can't win an argument resort to name-calling. It's all about distracting attention from your opponent's message. Or, as you say, maybe they're just too dumb to debate.
ewwwe
post #117 of 292

Re: Has the UCI dumped Armstrong ?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rolfrae
If you can't win an argument resort to name-calling. It's all about distracting attention from your opponent's message.
Says the one whose screen named is an anagram of Oral Ref.
post #118 of 292

Re: Has the UCI dumped Armstrong ?

UCI chief Pat McQuaid says Lance Armstrong "had every right to take a shower."

By Agence France Presse
Posted Apr. 10, 2009
International cycling chief Pat McQuaid on Friday defended Lance Armstrong and criticized France's anti-doping authority (AFLD) over its handling of Armstrong's alleged misbehavior at an out-of-competition anti-doping test in France last month.

On Thursday the AFLD announced it was pursuing Armstrong for unprofessional behavior, claiming the Texan had violated strict dope-testing rules.

Their beef with Armstrong relates to an out-of-competition test last month when the Astana rider took a shower for 20 minutes while the identity of the official who had come calling was verified with cycling's governing body, the UCI.

Armstrong claims he was given permission to shower by the official who turned up after a training ride in the French riviera town of Beaulieu-sur-Mer on March 17. The AFLD, however, says Armstrong was repeatedly warned that he must remain under observation by the tester.

Although no traces of drugs were found in samples of Armstrong's hair, urine or blood in what was his 24th test since his comeback last September, the AFLD is considering bringing charges against him.

This has angered McQuaid, president of the UCI, who told the BBC: "The French are not acting very professionally in this case.

"The tester has to have a specific instruction that the athlete must remain under his supervision from the moment he is notified until the test is concluded.

"From my understanding, this was not the case. Lance Armstrong had every right to take a shower while his manager (Astana team head Johan Bruyneel) checked with the UCI that these people had the authority to take these samples.

"During that time his manager rang me and I put him on to our anti-doping manager, who confirmed that it (the AFLD) has the authority to take samples."

McQuaid said the demand for a sample of Armstrong's hair was "unusual".

"That only happens in France, which is for research purposes," he told the BBC.

"Armstrong was concerned whether he (the tester) had the authority to do this."

The AFLD's nine-member ruling committee is to meet to decide whether to press ahead and consider punishing Armstrong.

Any sanction would only apply to French territory, which could effect Armstrong's intended participation in the Tour de France.

McQuaid criticized the AFLD's handling of the Armstrong case.

"The French authorities decided to make up a report on the testing procedure, forward it to the UCI, knowing the UCI have no jurisdiction on the case and at the same time that report has leaked to the press," said the former Irish professional cyclist.

"I would have to question why that is the case.

"Normal proceedings between institutions such as national anti-doping agencies, the international federation and WADA are normally done in a professional and confidential way until a decision or sanction has been taken.

"In this case it was leaked to the press and I do find that disturbing."


http://www.velonews.com/article/9043...ad-every-right
post #119 of 292

Re: Has the UCI dumped Armstrong ?

Quote:
Originally Posted by jimmypop
Why couldn't this ****wad just fade away?
Every thread on this forum includes LA, LA doping, or LA's personal life. Seems to me, you all won't let him "fade away".
post #120 of 292

Re: Has the UCI dumped Armstrong ?

To answer the Op's question succinctly - "No."

McQuaid, with his most recent comments, has obviously got Gunderson's back...
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Professional Cycling
Cycling Forums › Forums › Bikes › Professional Cycling › Has the UCI dumped Armstrong ?