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post #16 of 30
7/24/10 at 1:42am
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That is something Swampy would know all about.
So would eddy merckx and greg lemond.

Besides, the gut has gone (for now) but the beer, bbq and nights of shredding metal on the guitar are still fond memories...
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post #17 of 30
7/24/10 at 10:24am

Re: Floyd Landis - As$hat Pt. Eleventynine...

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So would eddy merckx and greg lemond.

Besides, the gut has gone (for now) but the beer, bbq and nights of shredding metal on the guitar are still fond memories...
Nothing wrong with shredding Metal on the guitar. I just shred some Slayer about 20 minutes ago.
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post #18 of 30
7/24/10 at 6:51pm

Re: Floyd Landis - As$hat Pt. Eleventynine...

WTF Landis? Odd.

I bet he wishes now he just admitted he doped, took the two year suspension and came back to race. Look at Vino. He's out for two years and comes back as strong "clean" (lol) and is as strong as when he was doped. Does Lance really believe we think he's clean?
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post #19 of 30
7/24/10 at 8:18pm

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WTF Landis? Odd.

I bet he wishes now he just admitted he doped, took the two year suspension and came back to race. Look at Vino. He's out for two years and comes back as strong "clean" (lol) and is as strong as when he was doped. Does Lance really believe we think he's clean?
I certainly hope he's clean, as he's apparently been tested over 300x's. No matter what happens, there are always going to be those who point their finger and say Lance was doping and didn't get caught, or he was "paying someone off." Only Lance knows the true story.

And then....Lance didn't exactly finish at the top. Maybe he's clean now and that's why he finished back so far.

Whatever the case, nobody is going to pat Floyd Landis on the back and say, "GOOD JOB!" if Lance does wind up guilty. If anything, he will be hated even more for "destroying" the reputation of cycling, just like Jose Canseco "destroyed" baseball. The best thing that can happen to Floyd Landis is he will go down as the man who busted Lance Armstrong. That's not anything to be proud of, nor is it something to be famous for...
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post #20 of 30
7/26/10 at 4:05pm

Re: Floyd Landis - As$hat Pt. Eleventynine...

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That is something Swampy would know all about.

FLandis only lost 16 seconds while wearing baggy clothing. Pretty damned good.

Go Floyd!!!!
It figures it would be someone like you to cheer on a moron like that.....
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post #21 of 30
7/27/10 at 3:55pm

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I certainly hope he's clean, as he's apparently been tested over 300x's. No matter what happens, there are always going to be those who point their finger and say Lance was doping and didn't get caught, or he was "paying someone off." Only Lance knows the true story.
Armstrong tested positive for EPO six times in 1999. He tested positive for corticosteroids once in 1999. According to Landis, Armstrong tested positive for EPO in 2001 but bribed the UCI to cover it up. The UCI confirms at least two under the table payments from Armstrong.

The number of tests is meaningless. Most of what these guys are using cannot be tested for. There is not test for HGH. No test for insulin. No test for autologous blood boosting. Testing will not detect microdosages of EPO or any other substance. That is why they call it microdosing; the athlete takes a dose in the evening that will not be detectable in the morning. On top of that, Landis says that Postal was getting advance notice of surprise tests. This is corroborated by Jesus Manzano, who several years ago said that the person who was providing Team Kelme with advance notice of tests was giving the same information to Postal.
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post #22 of 30
7/27/10 at 4:13pm

Re: Floyd Landis - As$hat Pt. Eleventynine...

what i'm hoping for is that a simple polygraph test is added now with the federal investigation, should make things a bit more interesting.

goodbye Lance, it was nice knowing you, you phucking sorry ass asshat extraordiniare.
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post #23 of 30
7/27/10 at 4:19pm

Re: Floyd Landis - As$hat Pt. Eleventynine...

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Whatever the case, nobody is going to pat Floyd Landis on the back and say, "GOOD JOB!" if Lance does wind up guilty. If anything, he will be hated even more for "destroying" the reputation of cycling, just like Jose Canseco "destroyed" baseball. The best thing that can happen to Floyd Landis is he will go down as the man who busted Lance Armstrong. That's not anything to be proud of, nor is it something to be famous for...
Ignorance is blissful for some people...It's attitudes such as this that cheaters rely upon to continue their dirty deeds and defraud people with ethics that choose to play by the rules...

Guaranteed that Floyd Landis will be able to hold his head MUCH higher than Lance Armstrong when this investigation is over...Doing the right thing is ALWAYS right. Period...
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post #24 of 30
7/27/10 at 10:09pm

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to further bro's points about the efficacy of dope testing, check out willy voets' "breaking the chain." an inside look at how to run an effective doping programme.

the fine point is that the smarter teams used those outside the uci testing corral as guinea pigs--inject, smear, apply the dope in and on the swannies and then test their piss to figure out correct dosages to dodge the positive. and then the question becomes, not how could they ride and not be caught out, but how did some of these guys screw up so badly as to have tested positive.
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post #25 of 30
7/28/10 at 11:46am

Re: Floyd Landis - As$hat Pt. Eleventynine...

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Armstrong tested positive for EPO six times in 1999. He tested positive for corticosteroids once in 1999. According to Landis, Armstrong tested positive for EPO in 2001 but bribed the UCI to cover it up. The UCI confirms at least two under the table payments from Armstrong.

The number of tests is meaningless. Most of what these guys are using cannot be tested for. There is not test for HGH. No test for insulin. No test for autologous blood boosting. Testing will not detect microdosages of EPO or any other substance. That is why they call it microdosing; the athlete takes a dose in the evening that will not be detectable in the morning. On top of that, Landis says that Postal was getting advance notice of surprise tests. This is corroborated by Jesus Manzano, who several years ago said that the person who was providing Team Kelme with advance notice of tests was giving the same information to Postal.
As a matter of interest how can insulin enhance performance?
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post #26 of 30
7/28/10 at 11:52am

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As a matter of interest how can insulin enhance performance?
It is used as a recovery product to rapidly rebuild glycogen stores. Many riders won't use it because it can kill you if you mess up. In an interview Landis talked about the one time he used it. He ate like four boxes of cookies afterward, and it scared him enough to not try it again.
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post #27 of 30
7/28/10 at 1:32pm

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It is used as a recovery product to rapidly rebuild glycogen stores. Many riders won't use it because it can kill you if you mess up. In an interview Landis talked about the one time he used it. He ate like four boxes of cookies afterward, and it scared him enough to not try it again.
I had friend that killed himself using an insulin injection. He was physician so he knew exactly how to do it.
Sad story!
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post #28 of 30
7/28/10 at 2:30pm

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what i'm hoping for is that a simple polygraph test is added now with the federal investigation, should make things a bit more interesting.

goodbye Lance, it was nice knowing you, you phucking sorry ass asshat extraordiniare.
Great idea with the polygraph, but I think they should do it on Maury or the Steve Wilko's Show. Also, perhaps someone will need a DNA test to determine whether a baby momma is lying about who the father is. Two birds one stone...
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post #29 of 30
7/28/10 at 3:04pm

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Epic TT kit.
Yeah its not a bad "kit" if your comparing it to the Acqua Sapone zebra kit. Also, Mapei and Le Groupement were just awful. Much rather wear the gray t.

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post #30 of 30
7/30/10 at 2:25pm

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" The Comeback" the trailer park version! Cracks me up with shirt and the aero helmet. It would have been great he had a cigarette in his mouth.
HaHa!!
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