An Old Guy

.....and my thanks to probably the best in the world for cycling training to show up and add some great information to dispel all of the ignorance displayed by this one person who has continued to be a troll to this forum for months.

Just block him and then his posts won't even show up for you.  I did it months ago and it makes reading the threads here much less irritating.

You think he's trolling or really believes the things he says?

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Originally Posted by geneseo 

 

ps. An Old Guy, feel free to reply, but I am saying no more about this.

I guess your post was inspired by ACoggan's attack on me.

I will simply ask you to do 3 1 hour rides in any order you want.

steady pace:  75% FTP (TSS 56, IF .75)

steady pace:  100% FTP (TSS 100, IF 1.00)

hill repeats:  150% FTP up, 0% FTP down (about 1 minute of each) (TSS 120, IF 1.1)

I find the last to be as easy as the first and the second to be hard. Seems TSS and IF don't quite capture what is claimed. (Most coaches seem to regard the hill repeats the same as the 75% FTP steady pace ride.)

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I guess your thread makes you a troll, but ...

http://www.peakscoachinggroup.com/Archivedarticles/Power_Training_Chapter.pdf

Pages 10-11 make interesting reading in light of my above claim. Note the author. I guess by next weekend everyone will have done the 3 rides and TSS will become a victim of the progress of science.

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Originally Posted by An old Guy 

I guess your post was inspired by ACoggan's attack on me.

 

I will simply ask you to do 3 1 hour rides in any order you want.

 

steady pace:  75% FTP (TSS 56, IF .75)

steady pace:  100% FTP (TSS 100, IF 1.00)

hill repeats:  150% FTP up, 0% FTP down (about 1 minute of each) (TSS 120, IF 1.1)

 

I find the last to be as easy as the first and the second to be hard. Seems TSS and IF don't quite capture what is claimed. (Most coaches seem to regard the hill repeats the same as the 75% FTP steady pace ride.)

 

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I guess your thread makes you a troll, but ...

 

http://www.peakscoachinggroup.com/Archivedarticles/Power_Training_Chapter.pdf

 

Pages 10-11 make interesting reading in light of my above claim. Note the author. I guess by next weekend everyone will have done the 3 rides and TSS will become a victim of the progress of science.

You are the only person who has ever claimed that 30 x 1 min @150% of FTP, 1 min rest is "easy". For the vast majority of people, not only is such a session very hard, but downright impossible ( (I can only manage about 10 x 1 min @ 150% of FTP, and that's w/ 4 min of rest).

You are therefore either making this claim up, have your FTP set too low (but that wouldn't explain workout #2), or have a physiology like no other person...I'll leave it to others to decide which they believe to be true.

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Originally Posted by acoggan 

I'll leave it to others to decide which they believe to be true.

That was a super easy choice to make many months ago......

Some of the claims go well beyond delusions of grandeur. Plus the math work is horrendous.

I am also baffled at the claims of doing back to back to back 5 hours days and yet be here posting all day as well. And yet those of us that train the way we do on limited time are unmovitated and train too easy (no doubt if we were sponsored cyclists maybe we could train more). Of course it is always expressed in a condescending way.

Edit: the only reason why I am commenting is that I am somewhat ticked because of OG played a major role (I know because of an email that I received) in a long time major contributor and someone that has play an intergral role in my training left this forum because he was tired of the misinformation that OG is posting.

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Originally Posted by An old Guy 

I guess your post was inspired by ACoggan's attack on me.

 

I will simply ask you to do 3 1 hour rides in any order you want.

 

steady pace:  75% FTP (TSS 56, IF .75)

steady pace:  100% FTP (TSS 100, IF 1.00)

hill repeats:  150% FTP up, 0% FTP down (about 1 minute of each) (TSS 120, IF 1.1)

 

I find the last to be as easy as the first and the second to be hard. Seems TSS and IF don't quite capture what is claimed. (Most coaches seem to regard the hill repeats the same as the 75% FTP steady pace ride.)

Hill repeats are the work of the devil and hurt like a MF, especially when ridden mostly out of the saddle. You need to press on the pedals harder, especially as half of the posts that you make about riding in hills include quotes like "I climbed at 250w and some guy in tennis shoes and toestraps passed me. At the top he was cooked."

I still don't get how you manage to do long rides when you down a quart of chocolate milk every hour or so. I'd be puking brown cottage cheese at the end of the ride...

I don't think Andy's post was an attack - just a blunt, too the point accurate response to one of your prior posts.

Sorry Old Guy,

I would visit this place much more frequently if it weren't for you.

So many good folks out there that it is a shame some may not chime in because of you.

Take care.

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Originally Posted by 2011 SWORKS 

Sorry Old Guy,

 

I would visit this place much more frequently if it weren't for you.

So many good folks out there that it is a shame some may not chime in because of you.

 

Take care.

See lanierb's post re:  filtering.  You and some other folks are giving AOG way too much control over yourselves.  Personally, I find his posts amusing.
 

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Originally Posted by dkrenik 

See lanierb's post re:  filtering.  You and some other folks are giving AOG way too much control over yourselves.  Personally, I find his posts amusing.
 

 

Indeed, they can be good opportunities to learn some stuff.  Although I must admit there are probably more efficient ways.

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Originally Posted by lanierb 

Just block him and then his posts won't even show up for you.  I did it months ago and it makes reading the threads here much less irritating.

Sweet!! I had no idea or I would have done that months ago to avoid listening to his crap.

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Originally Posted by Alex Simmons 

Indeed, they can be good opportunities to learn some stuff.  Although I must admit there are probably more efficient ways.

Indeed.  Some live their lives as a warning to others.

Old guy gets my vote for being awesome at being direct with his responses. He doesn't let facts get in the way of a good argument, every forum needs an old guy. Lay off him fellas, he obviously loves bikes, does anything else really matter?