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22-06.-2004, 05:50 PM
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Engineering of fixed gear
So, to all the physics majors/engineers out there, why is it so much easier to spin a hill on my pig-like 46/16 fixie as opposed to my pretty little 3rensho racer with 14 different gears to choose from?
I mean, really, the 3rensho is lighter, much thinner tyres, tighter geometry, and with the fairly low gearing it should be much easier to bop up the hills, but it feels horribly sluggish. Would the freewheel/derailleur account for this, or is it all in my tiny brain? |
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26-07.-2004, 05:27 AM
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Re: Engineering of fixed gear
All those nice shiny bits give you driveline drag.
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26-07.-2004, 12:51 PM
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Re: Engineering of fixed gear
Too add, when forced to stay in a tough gear one is more likely to have to charge just to keep going. On your other bike you might feel like you are working hard, but you make the decision, not the bike.
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06-08.-2004, 03:36 PM
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Re: Engineering of fixed gear
I wondered the same thing about my fixed gear and multi-geared bikes. I don't have the answers, but I'm guessing that part of it is that when the fixed gear bike gets rolling, even uphill, it does some of the work for you...the moving rear wheel helps keep the pedals going. (?)
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06-09.-2004, 01:33 AM
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Re: Engineering of fixed gear
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I think that could be some of it, you have a smoother, more continuous stroke that is easier to maintain. You also don't have anything else in the driveline to leach energy. On my fixed, it also seems like the chain wraps on more of the cog, possibly able to transfer torque more effeciently. Also, I think there has got to be some work lost in spinning a crooked chain. |
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09-09.-2004, 01:26 PM
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Re: Engineering of fixed gear
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actually, the geared drivetrain only takes up about 10 more watts to spin than a singlespeed. that's not enough to make you noticably faster. |
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23-10.-2004, 04:30 AM
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Re: Engineering of fixed gear
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It depends on what gear you're in. If the gears are lined up, then you're only dealing with added drag from the derailleur pulleys, which is pretty small. But when you use a gear that has a lot of cross, the plates on the chain are rubbing against the sides of the gears. This causes a big drop in the efficiency of the drivetrain. |
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03-03.-2005, 01:40 PM
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Re: Engineering of fixed gear
[QUOTE=franklin pierce]So, to all the physics majors/engineers out there, why is it so much easier to spin a hill on my pig-like 46/16 fixie as opposed to my pretty little 3rensho racer with 14 different gears to choose from?
You need to work on your pedal stroke. The fixies like a semi-automatic; It does part of the pedaling for you. You're probably just pushing down. But with an improved pedal stroke and proper gear change you should be killin' it on the hills with your road bike. www.kingzoftheroad.com |
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