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Statement on Spam and VoteNader.org

 
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Old 09-04.-2004, 05:28 AM   #1
brion@votenader.org
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Spam from VoteNader.org? (Or naderexplore04.org)

You may have received spam email recently that appears to come from our
campaign, or be about our campaign -- perhaps the "From" and or
"Reply-to" addresses look like they are coming from VoteNader.org. Or
perhaps you have received a message that appears to come from an
individual (if the address is real, the real owner probably did not send
this email either) with suppressed recipients. Or maybe you received an
email that appeared to come from yourself promoting our site.

These messages are NOT from Nader for President 2004, and these email
tactics are NOT condoned by our campaign in any way.

UPDATE: Some of the latest forged emails have been made to appear to be
coming from naderexplore04.org. Again, we are not responsible for this
unfortunate abuse of email, and there is little in the technical sense
that we can do to prevent this as it has nothing to do with our actual
infrastructure. We are collecting information.

NOTE: The emails with malicious code (viruses, worms, etc.) often have
attachments. Our campaign will NEVER send attachments in our
announcement emails to you. Please be sure that you have anti-virus
software and have the latest updates available for your anti-virus
software.

Our hosting service has alerted us to say that Nader for President 2004
appears to be the target of what is called a "Joe Job." Such an event is
where a spammer forges email to make it appear to have come from some
other domain (such as ours -- or yourself). This is hard to prevent on
our end and part of the insecure nature of the email protocol in
general.

Members of our actual email list must request to receive email from us
(either through Ralph's signup sheets or subscribing during our
exploratory phase, or now on our campaign site). When one signs up for
email they must reply to a confirmation message before they receive our
list announcements.

Our public announcement emails come from "campaign@votenader.org,"
contain a "Paid for by Nader for President 2004" statement at the
bottom, and have "updates@lists.votenader.org" in the "To:" header.
Unfortunately, some of these indicators can be forged as well.

Most of the Spam that we have received complaints about appear to be
forged from email addresses not associated with votenader.org (often
forged to appear to be coming from government email addresses), and have
our website code embedded in the body of the email with hidden tags that
contain random words that work to subvert anti-spam software.

If you are on our lists, you can ALWAYS unsubscribe at ANY time by
following the instructions included at the end of our announcements. You
can also use our unsubscribe page using the email address you signed up
with.

If you are receiving this SPAM, we extend our apologies.

We will pursue the spammers to the full extent of the law.

For more information, please review these resources:

How Do I Determine the Source of an Email?
http://www.aota.net/Email_Spam_Prev...mailsource.php4

Why Does This Spam Look Like I Sent It?
http://www.aota.net/Email_Spam_Prev...t/spamfrom.php4

Coping with a Joe Job
http://www.sitepoint.com/article/sa...oping-joe-job/2

Please contact abuse@votenader.org with any questions. We have received
many samples of the spam and are working to identify the source, if
possible.

Volunteer -------------- http://www.votenader.org/get_involved/index.php
Ballot Access ---------- http://www.votenader.org/ballot_access/index.php
Register to Vote ------- http://www.rockthevote.com/rtv_register.php
Contribute ------------- http://www.votenader.org/contribute/index.php
Contact Us ------------- http://www.votenader.org/contact/index.php


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God unite all the Muslims and give them all the ability to pray.

wa?Salam
Mohsin

Long term affect of short term solutions

Assalam u?Alekum all
Yesterday we were talking about Iraq and how
current Iraq war can make things worst for all of us around the world.
There are a few issues here, it may be very easy for those who have
authority to decide how things should be done. But the fact is at the
street level things are not as we think they are, mostly average people
just hear and believe what they see and hear from media. They don?t
consider that their could be encoded messages in everything and it may
very well be that TV, news are not entertainment anymore.

Things actually get worst when secret service agents and Israelies
equipped with biological weapons and authority who do not believe in any
kind of boundaries and ethics try to control minds and events on the
street. Such people have lived with people on the street for years, so
each time things go wrong, ordinary people who only relate to
environment based on assumptions will hear and believe what everyone
else around them does.

So if Iraq war goes ahead, and a few innocent people die, those who
share values with people of Iraq will definitely see it as murder thus
creating one more gap in our relationship, where as bad guys will use
this situation to create more people. I remember that Abu Omar during
Afghan war used to tell us in the mosque that Jews and Christians are
out there to kill us, and seeing the events these statements had
confused me a lot, and if I after all my intelligence and education can
be confused I am sure ordinary people can be too.

If bad guys have plan to attack anywhere in the world tomorrow, you
might be able to stop it but it would only be a short term fix there is



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Old 09-04.-2004, 09:50 PM   #2
Qui si parla Campagnolo
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Nice cross post to everything from aviation to bipolar newsgroups..makes ya
really want to vote nader-eh?

Spamo-

Peter Chisholm
Vecchio's Bicicletteria
1833 Pearl St.
Boulder, CO, 80302
(303)440-3535
http://www.vecchios.com
"Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"
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Old 10-04.-2004, 12:01 AM   #3
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Qui si parla Campagnolo wrote:
> Nice cross post to everything from aviation to bipolar
> newsgroups..makes ya really want to vote nader-eh?
>
> Spamo-
>
> Peter Chisholm
> Vecchio's Bicicletteria
> 1833 Pearl St.
> Boulder, CO, 80302
> (303)440-3535
> http://www.vecchios.com
> "Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"


Peter-

Looks like the spammer fooled you. This email wasn't (cross)-posted by the
Nader org. It IS the spam in a tricky self-referential way. Here's how it
works-

1) The spammer sends email appearing to be from the Nader campaign.
2) The Nader campaign puts up a page on their website to alert people that
that email was spam intending to come from the Campaign in order to give
them a bad image. The Nader site does NOT email that message out.
3) The spammer takes the denial from the Nader site and sends it out as an
additional spam, ending up in this NG, among other places
4) Again, the Nader site denies this second spam "warning" email, posting on
their site -

"UPDATE: (8 April 2004) As of late this very spam notice, or variations of
it, have been reposted across USENET under forged email addresses (many of
which don't actually exist). This is a continuation of the joe-jobbing and
we are keeping track of the reports of these events to the best of our
ability. This notice regarding the spoofing of email alleged to come from
the votenader.org domain has been published in one spot by the campaign --
this page at http://www.votenader.org/contact/spam.php -- it has not been
emailed by the campaign or reposted anywhere else. Any apparent forwarding
or republishing of this document has not been done by us and is not
authorized by us."

5) I have helpfully clarified the matter. Or have I? Am I really in league
with the spammer? Or maybe the Nader campaign is cleverly spamming and at
the same time not spammin. Perhaps there is no spammer. Perhaps I'm not real
either. I could just be a character in a short story by Borges.

HTH,

-Tom


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Old 10-04.-2004, 01:53 AM   #4
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I wouldn't vote for Nader for my own reasons, but I will note that the
headers of this spam reflect an origin in Australia on Telstra. This
indicates to me that it is highly probable that this spam is a
forgery. As for the probable actual source, any guess I could make
would be mere speculation that would be even more off-topic than the
spam (and, for that matter, this note).

--
My email address is antispammed; pull WEEDS if replying via e-mail.
Typoes are not a bug, they're a feature.
Words processed in a facility that contains nuts.
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Old 10-04.-2004, 01:54 AM   #5
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On Fri, 9 Apr 2004 17:01:30 +0200, "trg"
<trg@world.REMOVE.THIS.std.com> may have said:

> I could just be a character in a short story by Borges.


But, if that were the case, how would you know?

--
My email address is antispammed; pull WEEDS if replying via e-mail.
Typoes are not a bug, they're a feature.
Words processed in a facility that contains nuts.
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Old 10-04.-2004, 02:46 AM   #6
trg
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Werehatrack wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Apr 2004 17:01:30 +0200, "trg"
> <trg@world.REMOVE.THIS.std.com> may have said:
>
>> I could just be a character in a short story by Borges.

>
> But, if that were the case, how would you know?


I'd ask Umberto Eco. He lives next door.


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