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Cofidis skips Paris-Roubaix

 
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Old 10-04.-2004, 04:41 AM   #1
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Default Cofidis skips Paris-Roubaix

Velonews:

France's top cycling team, Cofidis, has been forced to pull out of Sunday's
Paris-Roubaix classic by its title sponsor.

The team is battling a series of doping allegations, and press reports in
Friday's newspapers only served to put the team deeper in the mire.

A statement from the team's sponsor, credit company Cofidis, said:

"Cofidis has decided to take some time out to reflect on the current
situation." -Copyright 2004/AFP



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Old 10-04.-2004, 04:59 AM   #2
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Won't they still have to pay salaries? No positive tests for any of the
active riders.

"Sonarrat" <sonarrat@postmark.fishn..> wrote in message
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> Velonews:
>
> France's top cycling team, Cofidis, has been forced to pull out of

Sunday's
> Paris-Roubaix classic by its title sponsor.
>
> The team is battling a series of doping allegations, and press reports in
> Friday's newspapers only served to put the team deeper in the mire.
>
> A statement from the team's sponsor, credit company Cofidis, said:
>
> "Cofidis has decided to take some time out to reflect on the current
> situation." -Copyright 2004/AFP
>
>
>
> -Sonarrat.
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Old 10-04.-2004, 05:04 AM   #3
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http://fr.sports.yahoo.com/040409/85/3qnon.html

"Sonarrat" <sonarrat@postmark.fishn..> wrote in message
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> Velonews:
>
> France's top cycling team, Cofidis, has been forced to pull out of

Sunday's
> Paris-Roubaix classic by its title sponsor.
>
> The team is battling a series of doping allegations, and press reports in
> Friday's newspapers only served to put the team deeper in the mire.
>
> A statement from the team's sponsor, credit company Cofidis, said:
>
> "Cofidis has decided to take some time out to reflect on the current
> situation." -Copyright 2004/AFP
>
>
>
> -Sonarrat.
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Old 10-04.-2004, 05:34 AM   #4
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> http://fr.sports.yahoo.com/040409/85/3qnon.html


So they're not going to compete again AT ALL until they get this straightened
out?

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Old 10-04.-2004, 06:05 AM   #5
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So it appears. There should still be an obligation to pay the riders so
long as they have not tested positive. It looks like BOHIC time for David.

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> > http://fr.sports.yahoo.com/040409/85/3qnon.html

>
> So they're not going to compete again AT ALL until they get this

straightened
> out?
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> -Sonarrat.
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Old 11-04.-2004, 02:00 AM   #6
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Sonarrat wrote:

> "Roubaix" <Corsica@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:glDdc.2230$l75.405@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
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>>http://fr.sports.yahoo.com/040409/85/3qnon.html

>
>
> So they're not going to compete again AT ALL until they get this straightened
> out?
>
> -Sonarrat.
>
>

Yup, None of their riders are going to compete anywhere wgile this is
going on. David Millar was pulled from the track World Cup event in
Manchester. Once again one of the few times cycling gets on terrestrial
TV in the UK they have to lead of with a discussion about drugs.

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Old 11-04.-2004, 02:11 AM   #7
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"Stan Cox" <stanDOTcox@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> >

> Yup, None of their riders are going to compete anywhere wgile this is
> going on. David Millar was pulled from the track World Cup event in
> Manchester. Once again one of the few times cycling gets on terrestrial
> TV in the UK they have to lead of with a discussion about drugs.
>


Was Millar pulled from the track World Cup by the BCF?


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Old 11-04.-2004, 02:18 AM   #8
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On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 12:11:25 -0500, "Carl Sundquist"
<carlsun@cox-internet.com> wrote:

>
>"Stan Cox" <stanDOTcox@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>> >

>> Yup, None of their riders are going to compete anywhere wgile this is
>> going on. David Millar was pulled from the track World Cup event in
>> Manchester. Once again one of the few times cycling gets on terrestrial
>> TV in the UK they have to lead of with a discussion about drugs.
>>

>
>Was Millar pulled from the track World Cup by the BCF?
>

I believe he could have ridden (as he was riding for GB, not Cofidis)
but chose to withdraw in the circumstances.

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Old 11-04.-2004, 02:23 AM   #9
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"Stan Cox" <stanDOTcox@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> Sonarrat wrote:
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> > "Roubaix" <Corsica@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:glDdc.2230$l75.405@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> >
> >
> >>http://fr.sports.yahoo.com/040409/85/3qnon.html

> >
> >
> > So they're not going to compete again AT ALL until they get this

straightened
> > out?
> >
> > -Sonarrat.
> >
> >

> Yup, None of their riders are going to compete anywhere wgile this is
> going on. David Millar was pulled from the track World Cup event in
> Manchester. Once again one of the few times cycling gets on terrestrial
> TV in the UK they have to lead of with a discussion about drugs.
>
> Stan Cox


Same here, only the newspaper. They only mention cycling during the tour de
france, the rest of the year it's baseball, football,hockey. Then they ran a
story on pantani's death, and today, after not mentioning any of the spring
races, ran a small wire story on cofidis. Well, who cares. We all know
cyclists aren't REAL athletes.


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Old 11-04.-2004, 07:11 AM   #10
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> Was Millar pulled from the track World Cup by the BCF?

Is i understood from Dutch Eurosport comment the whole Cofidis team was ordered to the Cofidis headquarters by the team to get
everybodies stories about the whole thing.


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> "Stan Cox" <stanDOTcox@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> > Yup, None of their riders are going to compete anywhere wgile this is
> > going on. David Millar was pulled from the track World Cup event in
> > Manchester. Once again one of the few times cycling gets on terrestrial
> > TV in the UK they have to lead of with a discussion about drugs.
> >

>
> Was Millar pulled from the track World Cup by the BCF?
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Old 11-04.-2004, 04:38 PM   #11
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Carl Sundquist wrote:

> "Stan Cox" <stanDOTcox@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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>>Yup, None of their riders are going to compete anywhere wgile this is
>>going on. David Millar was pulled from the track World Cup event in
>>Manchester. Once again one of the few times cycling gets on terrestrial
>>TV in the UK they have to lead of with a discussion about drugs.
>>

>
>
> Was Millar pulled from the track World Cup by the BCF?
>
>

The Tv Coverage said that he was pulled by Cofidis. I think the BCF
wouldnt have been too happy as the crowds at the World Cup have been
dissapointing and Millar would have bought quite a few people in.

Stan Cox
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Old 11-04.-2004, 06:06 PM   #12
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Stan Cox <stanDOTcox@ntlworld.com> writes:


>> Was Millar pulled from the track World Cup by the BCF?
>>

> The Tv Coverage said that he was pulled by Cofidis. I think the BCF
> wouldnt have been too happy as the crowds at the World Cup have been
> dissapointing and Millar would have bought quite a few people in.


I bet there are some civil lawsuits before this pantomine reaches the second act.

Now I must admit to not knowing the exact legal structure or administrative heirarchy used by Cofidis to run/operate/control the team but ordering riders not to ride would seem to me to be potentially actionable on numerous grounds by the riders and possibly by other third parties who may have suffered damages, for example the organizers of the Manchester World Cup event and even ticket holders who had prepurchased tickets in anticipation of seeing the Hong Kong Haggis Snapper pull the Brits to victory in the pursuit, which they did anyway without much mental anguish on the part of the rest of the squad because the HKHS wasn't even on the squad a week ago.

There maybe some mitigation if Cofidis (or whomever the riders are directly bound to by contract) still pays the salaries of riders ordered not to ride but not neither convicted of any offense by a court of competent jurisdiction nor suspended by any ruling body for contravention of any rules.

Where the frig is Stikeman Elliot's limelight seeking, rabble rousing, loud mouthed, poor loser, money grabbing, IOC Presidential reject, WADA-Sonderkommando Fuhrer and SuperWanker Prick (sorry Dick) Pound when we need him. I bet he could make the lads a fortune and gain himself some publicity too if he handles a class action suit on this one.

Davey sure ain't no Lawyer, but he is in fact an accountant who has worked over the years on several suits for damages and if he had a client affected by Cofidis' actions, he'd sure as heck be checking the phone book for Stikeman Elliot's telephone number!!

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Old 11-04.-2004, 06:55 PM   #13
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"Davey Crockett" <Davey_Crockett@rogers.com> a écrit dans le message de :
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> Davey sure ain't no Lawyer


Being one, I can say it shows. Being European, it shows ever brighter.
A quick scan of the UCI rules on rider contracts will answer all your
questions.
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Old 11-04.-2004, 08:39 PM   #14
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"SMMB" <leurre@free.fr> writes:

> "Davey Crockett" <Davey_Crockett@rogers.com> a écrit dans le message de :
> news:874qrqg9yz.fsf@cpe000423176ea9-cm0f2069983361.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com...
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>> Davey sure ain't no Lawyer

>
> Being one, I can say it shows. Being European, it shows ever brighter.
> A quick scan of the UCI rules on rider contracts will answer all your
> questions.


Well that's what it's all about isn't it?

One Liar (sorry, lawyer) says 'This` and another says 'That` and sure enuf, you got yourself a lawsuit

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Old 13-04.-2004, 04:38 AM   #15
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"Marlene Blanshay" <blanshay@total.net> wrote in
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> Same here, only the newspaper. They only mention cycling during the
> tour de france, the rest of the year it's baseball, football,hockey.
> Then they ran a story on pantani's death, and today, after not
> mentioning any of the spring races, ran a small wire story on cofidis.
> Well, who cares. We all know cyclists aren't REAL athletes.



Here's a good example of a sports reporter's ignorance. A few weeks ago I
happened to flip on the Sports Reporters show on ESPN; they were babbling
about doping in baseball when genius Bob Ryan of the Boston newspaper
started yakking about "Mario Pantani" who was a "big time steriod abuser"
which resulted in his death.

However, another time I saw Ryan on another show and he almost made up for
those idiotic remarks. Topic was something about the toughest guy in
sports, and when it was Ryan's turn he said Tyler Hamilton. Hometown bias,
I guess.

NS
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