Four things to say goodbye to in 2005

ronde chumpion

Hey,


1) Heinz Verbruggen The UCI boss is ending Kelme, which is fine. But
letting Cofidis continue is a crime. Don't even talk about the
stupidity of the proposed Pro Tour (www.uci.ch) for the future. Talk
about killing tradition.

2) Dario Pieri Mr Krispy Kreme was second in P-R in 2003, 17 kilos
heavier this year, and will be unemployed by 2005.

3) Sea Otter road events It took this long for teams and racers to
figure out that Rick Sutton is a clown, and should only be promoting
fourth of july town fairs in Montana.

4) USPS Team. Don't lose heart, The US has had a team in the Tour
EVERY year since 1986, and American's have won half of the last 20
Tour de France. Someone will pick up the slack. Don't be surprised if
it is Dodge (Daimler-Chrysler).

You heard it here first. Look how accurate my Gord/Mario thread is a
year later.

Thanks,
Ronde Chumpion

Faster Bordello

ronde chumpion wrote:

> Hey,
>
>
> 1) Heinz Verbruggen The UCI boss is ending Kelme, which is fine. But
> letting Cofidis continue is a crime. Don't even talk about the
> stupidity of the proposed Pro Tour (www.uci.ch) for the future. Talk
> about killing tradition.
>
good riddance to both. Oh and it's Hein no "z"

> 2) Dario Pieri Mr Krispy Kreme was second in P-R in 2003, 17 kilos
> heavier this year, and will be unemployed by 2005.

sucks to be him

>
> 3) Sea Otter road events It took this long for teams and racers to
> figure out that Rick Sutton is a clown, and should only be promoting
> fourth of july town fairs in Montana.

umm ok if you say so, but mtb is at an all time low in USA sponsership
and TV time wise, (and I'm only guessing particapationshipwise) except
DH of course, and is that really bike racing?

>
> 4) USPS Team. Don't lose heart, The US has had a team in the Tour
> EVERY year since 1986, and American's have won half of the last 20
> Tour de France. Someone will pick up the slack. Don't be surprised if
> it is Dodge (Daimler-Chrysler).

yep some US team will emerge but will they comand the likes of Postal,
which is likely to become BarryFloor out of Beligium?

>
> You heard it here first. Look how accurate my Gord/Mario thread is a
> year later.

Mario and his train will school the US teams.

>
> Thanks,
> Ronde Chumpion

RadSimunek

>>Rick Sutton is a clown, and should only be promoting
fourth of july town fairs in Montana.<<

Please moderate your advocacy of relegating Mr. Sutton to our neck. From my
vantage point, it looks as though Sea Otter needs him far more than any Montana
town might. Oh, and by the way, they're called "county" fairs, not "town" fairs
in these parts. Unless you're talking "ro-day-o"; in that case, most every town
has one at some point during the summer.
Geoff Proctor
Helena MT

Bestest Handsander

"ronde chumpion" <rondechumpion@aol.com> wrote in message
news:62f26b38.0404161930.27f51a52@posting.google.com...
> Hey,
>
>

Snip

>
> 4) USPS Team. Don't lose heart, The US has had a team in the Tour
> EVERY year since 1986, and American's have won half of the last 20
> Tour de France. Someone will pick up the slack. Don't be surprised if
> it is Dodge (Daimler-Chrysler).

Isn't that 8 of the last 18? Which either ties the US or puts them one
ahead of Spain

Davey Crockett

"Bestest Handsander" <none@u.biz> writes:

> "ronde chumpion" <rondechumpion@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:62f26b38.0404161930.27f51a52@posting.google.com...
>> Hey,
>>
>>
>
> Snip
>
>>
>> 4) USPS Team. Don't lose heart, The US has had a team in the Tour
>> EVERY year since 1986, and American's have won half of the last 20
>> Tour de France. Someone will pick up the slack. Don't be surprised if
>> it is Dodge (Daimler-Chrysler).
>
> Isn't that 8 of the last 18? Which either ties the US or puts them one
> ahead of Spain
>
And while we are at it, Tiger, why didn't you point out the when referenced in the plural, Tour de France is a total no-no.



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Steven L. Sheffield

On 04/18/2004 12:38 AM, in article 7YGdnacOep66vx_dRVn-sQ@aros.net, "Bestest
Handsander" <none@u.biz> wrote:

> "ronde chumpion" <rondechumpion@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:62f26b38.0404161930.27f51a52@posting.google.com...
>> Hey,
>>
>>
>
> Snip
>
>>
>> 4) USPS Team. Don't lose heart, The US has had a team in the Tour
>> EVERY year since 1986, and American's have won half of the last 20
>> Tour de France. Someone will pick up the slack. Don't be surprised if
>> it is Dodge (Daimler-Chrysler).
>
> Isn't that 8 of the last 18? Which either ties the US or puts them one
> ahead of Spain

1969 - Eddy Merckx #1 - Belgium #1
1970 - Eddy Merckx #2 - Belgium #2
1971 - Eddy Merckx #3 - Belgium #3
1972 - Eddy Merckx #4 - Belgium #4
1973 - Luis Ocaña #1 - Spain #1
1974 - Eddy Merckx #5 - Belgium #5
1975 - Bernard Thevenet #1 - France #1
1976 - Lucien Van Impe #1 - Belgium #6
1977 - Bernard Thevenet #2 - France #2
1978 - Bernard Hinault #1 - France #3
1979 - Bernard Hinault #2 - France #4
1980 - Joop Zoetemelk #1 - Netherlands #1
1981 - Bernard Hinault #3 - France #5
1982 - Bernard Hinault #4 - France #6
1983 - Laurent Fignon #1 - France #7
1984 - Laurent Fignon #2 - France #8
1985 - Bernard Hinault #5 - France #9
1986 - Greg LeMond #1 - USA #1
1987 - Stephen Roche #1 - Ireland #1
1988 - Pedro Delgado #1 - Spain #2
1989 - Greg Lemond #2 - USA #2
1990 - Greg Lemond #3 - USA #3
1991 - Miguel Indurain #1 - Spain #3
1992 - Miguel Indurain #2 - Spain #4
1993 - Miguel Indurain #3 - Spain #5
1994 - Miguel Indurain #4 - Spain #6
1995 - Miguel Indurain #5 - Spain #7
1996 - Bjarne Riis #1 - Denmark #1
1997 - Jan Ullrich #1 - Germany #1
1998 - Marco Pantani #1 - Italy #1
1999 - Lance Armstrong #1 - USA #4
2000 - Lance Armstrong #2 - USA #5
2001 - Lance Armstrong #3 - USA #6
2002 - Lance Armstrong #4 - USA #7
2003 - Lance Armstrong #5 - USA #8

So ... In the last 35 years:

France - 9 wins
USA - 8 wins
Spain - 7 wins
Belgium - 6 wins
Netherlands - 1 win
Denmark - 1 win
Germany - 1 win
Italy - 1 win
Ireland - 1 win

In the last 15 years:

USA - 7 wins
Spain - 5 wins
Denmark - 1 win
Germany - 1 win
Italy - 1 win


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Amit

rondechumpion@aol.com (ronde chumpion) wrote in message news:<62f26b38.0404161930.27f51a52@posting.google.com>...

> 2) Dario Pieri Mr Krispy Kreme was second in P-R in 2003, 17 kilos
> heavier this year, and will be unemployed by 2005.
>

Pieri was already a fattie, I don't see how he could be that much (17
kg!) fatter this year and still be a pro. But he was a bit tubbier in
2004.

The good thing about being a fattie is that losing weight is a
relatively easier way to get better. It worked for Roger Hammond.

-Amit