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Bikes on French TGV (luggage racks are now sealed off)

 
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Old 17-04.-2004, 08:45 PM   #1
JG
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Default Bikes on French TGV (luggage racks are now sealed off)

I read on rec.travel.europe that the large luggage racks (where one
used to be able to put dis-assembled bikes, held in a special bag) on TGVs
are
now sealed off for security reasons (after the Madrid bombing).
Can anyone confirm this?

How can one take bikes on TGVs now (specifically on the TGV
that does not have bike area where one can bring intact bikes - only
a few lines have this)

I think the large luggage areas on the mainline, CORAIL, is also shut
off.

Thank you.




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Old 18-04.-2004, 01:46 AM   #2
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Default Re: Bikes on French TGV (luggage racks are now sealed off)

>I read on rec.travel.europe that the large luggage racks (where one
>used to be able to put dis-assembled bikes, held in a special bag) on TGVs
>are
>now sealed off for security reasons (after the Madrid bombing).
>Can anyone confirm this?


This has been discussed on the tandem email list:
http://catfood.phred.org/getmsg.asp....10404.0180.eml

There are likely related posts. Search using the bike list search tool
(http://catfood.phred.org/query.asp) over the last month.

Good luck,



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Old 19-04.-2004, 11:32 PM   #3
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Default Re: Bikes on French TGV (luggage racks are now sealed off)

Chris Neary wrote:
>> I read on rec.travel.europe that the large luggage racks (where one
>> used to be able to put dis-assembled bikes, held in a special bag) on
>> TGVs are
>> now sealed off for security reasons (after the Madrid bombing).
>> Can anyone confirm this?

>
> This has been discussed on the tandem email list:
> http://catfood.phred.org/getmsg.asp....10404.0180.eml
>
> There are likely related posts. Search using the bike list search tool
> (http://catfood.phred.org/query.asp) over the last month.
>


I wrote to SNCF last week for confirmation, and just got this reply:

"It is correct that the luggage areas on TGV are not available because of
the [anti-terrorism plan].

"For more information about travelling with your bicycle, we invite you to
contact our call center Ligne Directe. The phone number is 08.92.35.35.39
from France and 0033.892.35.35.39 from Europe.

"We hope this information will be of assistance."


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Old 20-04.-2004, 01:42 AM   #4
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Default Re: Bikes on French TGV (luggage racks are now sealed off)

I received the same reply over the weekend.
I think I will call that # closer to the time that I am
going there (in July) rather than call now b/c things may change
b/w now and July (or maybe not)

They also suggested using SERNAM to ship the bike from
station to station but I know that takes two days minimum.
I don't think people could normally budget two days in
the beginning and another two at the end just to wait for their
bikes.


"Robert Chung" <me2@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:c60nut$6f26e$1@ID-226327.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Chris Neary wrote:
> >> I read on rec.travel.europe that the large luggage racks (where one
> >> used to be able to put dis-assembled bikes, held in a special bag) on
> >> TGVs are
> >> now sealed off for security reasons (after the Madrid bombing).
> >> Can anyone confirm this?

> >
> > This has been discussed on the tandem email list:
> > http://catfood.phred.org/getmsg.asp....10404.0180.eml
> >
> > There are likely related posts. Search using the bike list search tool
> > (http://catfood.phred.org/query.asp) over the last month.
> >

>
> I wrote to SNCF last week for confirmation, and just got this reply:
>
> "It is correct that the luggage areas on TGV are not available because of
> the [anti-terrorism plan].
>
> "For more information about travelling with your bicycle, we invite you to
> contact our call center Ligne Directe. The phone number is 08.92.35.35.39
> from France and 0033.892.35.35.39 from Europe.
>
> "We hope this information will be of assistance."
>
>



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Old 21-04.-2004, 02:56 AM   #5
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Default Re: Bikes on French TGV (luggage racks are now sealed off)

I could find no mention of this supposed new policy on the French
railroad website (www.sncf.com). I speak French, and I looked both in
the baggage regulations portion of the website and the press releases
section going back to March 11, the day of the Madrid bombings, and
found nothing. There was an expression of sympathy dated March 11,
2004, however. I'm going to e-mail a couple of friends in France and
see if they know anything about it.
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Old 21-04.-2004, 03:44 AM   #6
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Eric wrote:
> I could find no mention of this supposed new policy on the French
> railroad website (www.sncf.com). I speak French, and I looked both in
> the baggage regulations portion of the website and the press releases
> section going back to March 11, the day of the Madrid bombings, and
> found nothing. There was an expression of sympathy dated March 11,
> 2004, however. I'm going to e-mail a couple of friends in France and
> see if they know anything about it.


I live in Paris, and I didn't know anything about it. I scanned the SNCF
website, just as you did, and saw no mention of the new policy, then
e-mailed them. I posted the reply I got from them earlier in this thread.



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Old 21-04.-2004, 08:54 PM   #7
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In article <KjTgc.4191$Nz2.89500@news.itd.umich.edu>,
"JG" <telfordutd@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I received the same reply over the weekend.
> I think I will call that # closer to the time that I am
> going there (in July) rather than call now b/c things may change
> b/w now and July (or maybe not)
>
> They also suggested using SERNAM to ship the bike from
> station to station but I know that takes two days minimum.
> I don't think people could normally budget two days in
> the beginning and another two at the end just to wait for their
> bikes.


Never, ever, use this shame of a service ! Once upon a time,
SNCF did have a decent bike transportation service, but no more !

As for TGV, don't worry. If your bike is in a bag, just take it with you
and store it where you can! Your best option would be to get a
reservation on the last or first car of the train and leave the
bag on the last platform. I once traveled with three bags (hand made and
unclosed) plus a baby seat on top in an overcrowded TGV. The conductor
did a few contorsions to go throught the platform and didn't even asked
to who this belonged...

Jean-Pierre
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