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29-07.-2004, 01:45 AM
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after Armstrong retires, US cycling is over?
it seems US cycling is just about Armstrong. do you have anybody else or will it be over when Armstrong retires. where are the young riders?
TDF Best Young Rider Final Classification 1 Karpets Vladimir Rus Ibb 84h 01' 13" 2 Casar Sandy Fra Fdj 03' 42" 3 Voeckler Thomas Fra Blb 06' 01" 4 Rogers Michael Aus Qsd 16' 28" 5 Camano Iker Esp Eus 22' 03" 6 Pineau Jérôme Fra Blb 22' 32" 7 Chavanel Sylvain Fra Blb 29' 32" 8 Scarponi Michele Ita Dve 37' 50" 9 Astarloza Mikel Esp A2r 1h 29' 53" 10 Noval Gonzalez Benjamin Esp Usp 1h 32' 30" 11 Calzati Sylvain Fra Rag 1h 44' 23" 12 Portal Nicolas Fra A2r 1h 44' 34" 13 Lang Sebastian Ger Gst 1h 50' 20" 14 Scanlon Mark Irl A2r 2h 02' 38" 15 Krivtsov Yuriy Ukr A2r 2h 09' 05" 16 Davis Allan Aus Lst 2h 11' 05" 17 Charteau Anthony Fra Blb 2h 16' 20" 18 Loosli David Sui Sae 2h 19' 13" 19 Cancellara Fabian Sui Fas 2h 23' 31" 20 Pozzato Filippo Ita Fas 2h 29' 44" |
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29-07.-2004, 01:48 AM
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Re: after Armstrong retires, US cycling is over?
Well, as it stands now, I would have to say yes, it would be over. What got it going in the US was, an american sponsor, on an american bike, with an american pedalling it to victory. Granted we still have all those things now, but the team is far from all-american. With the other people on the team leaving to sign bigger contracts with other teams (Hamilton, Levi, and now Landis), I would have to say that when Armstrong retires, we will be right back to square one. Sad though.
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29-07.-2004, 01:55 AM
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Re: after Armstrong retires, US cycling is over?
the Aussies seem to produce a lot of riders for a small population. what's their secret?
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29-07.-2004, 02:03 AM
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Re: after Armstrong retires, US cycling is over?
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More time on the bike, less in the dentist chair!  Anyone know what happenedto the quick reply button? |
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29-07.-2004, 02:13 AM
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Re: after Armstrong retires, US cycling is over?
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I would go for Ivan Basso |
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29-07.-2004, 02:16 AM
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Re: after Armstrong retires, US cycling is over?
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regarding the dentist chair joke: I think you mean the British, not the Aussies. |
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29-07.-2004, 02:19 AM
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Re: after Armstrong retires, US cycling is over?
The dentist theory is more applicable to the British than the Aussies though I suspect this theory has some credence throughout Europe.
I think the Aussie secret is Vegemite. Well that and they same to actually participate in sports much more than other nations. They are competitive in many sports. |
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29-07.-2004, 02:30 AM
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Re: after Armstrong retires, US cycling is over?
I was poking fun at Robbie. His front teeth need to be moved over about 1/4" an inch. I look for Britian to release a new book titled, "A cyclists guide to doping", by David Millar. Where he tells how to beat the system.
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29-07.-2004, 02:39 AM
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Re: after Armstrong retires, US cycling is over?
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preface by Lance, right? |
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29-07.-2004, 02:41 AM
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Re: after Armstrong retires, US cycling is over?
[QUOTE=paris_boy]it seems US cycling is just about Armstrong. do you have anybody else or will it be over when Armstrong retires. >>>>
I'm 44 years old and remember following the TdF in the mid 70s when I rooted for Eddy Merckx. This was long before ANY Americans were in the Tour. Granted I was part of a tiny minority of Americans (no one in my blue collar neighborhood had ever heard of the Tour, and only gay friends from center city Philly knew of it, which I always thought was strange)....but I was into it before LA and will be into it well after LA. But MOST Americans were turned onto it via leMond in the mid 80s and later, by LA. It seems many Americans are interested in something only when they can root for one of our own (shrug.)
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29-07.-2004, 02:45 AM
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Re: after Armstrong retires, US cycling is over?
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that's because sports = patriotism |
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29-07.-2004, 03:09 AM
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Re: after Armstrong retires, US cycling is over?
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cycling for US would not be dead at all... with flyod and hincapie and even the robobank team there are alot of other riders who can made a diff type of team to accomadate a new leader. USPS is made to push the peleton like crazy on the mtns so that lance can evetually tear thru them when they have nothing left... if hincapie climbs more and landis trains yr round i think usps could have a new future..
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29-07.-2004, 05:08 AM
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Re: after Armstrong retires, US cycling is over?
Cycling in the US has only just begun!!!
 They just needed lance to kick start the interest- He's opened America's eyes to cycling it's only a matter of time till those promising cyclist pop up! |
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29-07.-2004, 05:16 AM
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Re: after Armstrong retires, US cycling is over?
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If you are looking for young emerging talent, I would look outside of the Tour de France for the young riders. Just because they aren't riding in the Tour yet doesn't mean they won't be later. Many believe that finishing the Tour in a respectable time too young results in diminished Tour performance later. |
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29-07.-2004, 11:09 AM
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Re: after Armstrong retires, US cycling is over?
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not sure about that -- many big names have won Best Young Rider Best Young Riders 1975-2003 (General Classification positions between brackets) 1975 - Francesco Moser (Ita) (7) 1976 - Enrique Martínez Heredia (Esp) (23) 1977 - Dietrich Thurau (FRG) (5) 1978 - Henk Lubberding (Ned) (8) 1979 - Jean-René Bernaudeau (Fra) (5) 1980 - Johan van der Velde (Ned) (12) 1981 - Peter Winnen (Ned) (5) 1982 - Phil Anderson (Aus) (5) 1983 - Laurent Fignon (Fra) (1) * 1984 - Greg LeMond (USA) (3) * 1985 - Fabio Parra (Col) (8) * 1986 - Andrew Hampsten (USA) (4) * 1987 - Raúl Alcala (Mex) (9) 1988 - Erik Breukink (Ned) (12) 1989 - Fabrice Philipot (Fra) (24) 1990 - Gilles Delion (Fra) (15) 1991 - Alvaro Mejía (Col) (19) 1992 - Eddy Bouwmans (Ned) (14) 1993 - Antonio Martín Velasco (Esp) (12) 1994 - Marco Pantani (Ita) (3) 1995 - Marco Pantani (Ita) (13) 1996 - Jan Ullrich (Ger) (2) 1997 - Jan Ullrich (Ger) (1) 1998 - Jan Ullrich (Ger) (2) 1999 - Benoît Salmon (Fra) (16) 2000 - Francisco Mancebo (Esp) (9) 2001 - Oscar Sevilla (Esp) (7) 2002 - Ivan Basso (Ita) (11) 2003 - Denis Menchov (Rus) (11) |
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