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Old 01-08.-2004, 05:28 AM   #1
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Default Reasons you dislike Armstrong?

Is it simply because he is American?
Is it because an American is dominating the TdF?
What has Armstrong done to deserve being spit on, booed, and heckled as he climbs mountains?
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Old 01-08.-2004, 06:11 AM   #2
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Is it simply because he is American?
Is it because an American is dominating the TdF?
What has Armstrong done to deserve being spit on, booed, and heckled as he climbs mountains?


he doesn't deserve that, of course. some people think he cheats and he's a bully.

in 20 years he'll be viewed like the other dominant riders of the past by most of us.

those riders controlled the peleton and went for the throat and are now celebrated for it. and considering that it's impossible to prove innocence he'll always be hated by those who think (or just want to believe) that he hasn't earned his wins.

and my personal opinion, being an american only hurts his case with many.
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Old 01-08.-2004, 01:47 PM   #3
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This is no different to what the great Eddy Merckx got during his career. He would IMO have made it 6 if he didn't get punched in the stomach.

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Is it simply because he is American?
Is it because an American is dominating the TdF?
What has Armstrong done to deserve being spit on, booed, and heckled as he climbs mountains?


who doesn't like Armstrong? do you mean the 2 idiots (out of half million) that spat on him on the TT. the French respected your great Greg Lemon, so if any of us do not like Armstrong it is probably because of his character not because he is a Yank. I think even many Yanks do not like Armstrong becuase of his character.
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who doesn't like Armstrong? do you mean the 2 idiots (out of half million) that spat on him on the TT. the French respected your great Greg Lemon, so if any of us do not like Armstrong it is probably because of his character not because he is a Yank. I think even many Yanks do not like Armstrong becuase of his character.

What do you mean character?

Is it because how he rides or he never gave any rider a gift stage win like he tried to give Floyd Landis?
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who doesn't like Armstrong? do you mean the 2 idiots (out of half million) that spat on him on the TT. the French respected your great Greg Lemon, so if any of us do not like Armstrong it is probably because of his character not because he is a Yank. I think even many Yanks do not like Armstrong becuase of his character.

I've noticed this in several posts of yours, Paris--are you trying to make some sort of joke about Greg LemonD, or were you honestly unaware how he spelled his name?
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What do you mean character?

Is it because how he rides or he never gave any rider a gift stage win like he tried to give Floyd Landis?


my point is that if a fan here does not like Armstrong, it is because of the fan's opinion of Armstrong's character not because he is a Yank
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I've noticed this in several posts of yours, Paris--are you trying to make some sort of joke about Greg LemonD, or were you honestly unaware how he spelled his name?


the French do not pronounce LeMond like you Yanks, instead more like English pronunciation of the fruit, so I write it like that for a joke. most people do not notice the misspelling.
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I can't really say that I like him or that I dislike him....
As a fellow American I'm proud of his wins and I supported him during the Tour!

American's Rock!!!

He definately was the best rider in the Tour!
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I can't really say that I like him or that I dislike him....
As a fellow American I'm proud of his wins and I supported him during the Tour!

American's Rock!!!

He definately was the best rider in the Tour!

americanīs rock???? well argentinan riders are not very good not brazilians few colombians maybe, i dont understand that statement

ohhh you are referring america as you country, thats cool, it is said that patriotism is the virtue of ignorants, is this true?
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the French do not pronounce LeMond like you Yanks, instead more like English pronunciation of the fruit, so I write it like that for a joke. most people do not notice the misspelling.

OK--as long as I know it's a joke, I won't give you a hard time about the spelling. Instead, I'll give you a hard time about how unfunny it is
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americanīs rock???? well argentinan riders are not very good not brazilians few colombians maybe, i dont understand that statement

ohhh you are referring america as you country, thats cool, it is said that patriotism is the virtue of ignorants, is this true?



Are you calling me ignorant because I'm proud to be an American?
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the French do not pronounce LeMond like you Yanks, instead more like English pronunciation of the fruit, so I write it like that for a joke. most people do not notice the misspelling.

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I personally prefer Paris' spelling...more fitting, esp. considering how Greg has been badmouthing Lance.
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What is funny is that Greg Lemond bought a full page advertisement in Bicycling Magazines Special Lance Armstrong Edition dedicated to Armstrongs career. He badmouths him in the press but uses Armstrongs career to sell Lemond Racing Cycles.
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Is it simply because he is American?
Is it because an American is dominating the TdF?
What has Armstrong done to deserve being spit on, booed, and heckled as he climbs mountains?
I don't think he's disliked over here. In fact he's quite popular with most of the cycling amateurs I know. The USpostal jerseys are selling very well (along with Quickstep-Davitamon ofcourse). And because of Johan Bruyneel some like to think this is a Belgian success too

But yes, some are getting tired of him winning all the time after 6 years. Most of the booing and heckling came from drunk Germans who were camping (and drinking) beside the road for days. They wanted their Jan win (and Klodi). Robbie Mcewen was also insulted by Germans (because of beating Zabel).

Anyways, yes I think if he's disliked by a certain fraction of the European public, his nationality does play a role to a certain extent(no denying that). But I think the most important role is...jealousy (I know, I'm a Ullrich fan since '96 )
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