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Question about toilet cistern overflow...?

 
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Old 19-12.-2004, 07:51 PM   #1
Simon Hawthorne
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Default Question about toilet cistern overflow...?

Hi all

A couple of years ago, I had the kitchen gutted and a downstairs
toilet fitted. Now this might sound stupid to you but I've only just
noticed there is no overflow on the cistern. There is a photo of the
toilet (with the pipes showing - they are now boxed in) -
http://thehawthornes.org/the_lodge/toilet_overflow.htm

What is the best way to fix this problem.....?

Thanks in advance

Simon
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Old 19-12.-2004, 07:54 PM   #2
Simon Hawthorne
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Sorry all - wrong group.....

Si
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Old 19-12.-2004, 07:56 PM   #3
Tony Raven
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Default Re: Question about toilet cistern overflow...?

Simon Hawthorne wrote:
>
> What is the best way to fix this problem.....?
>


Go out for a ride and try and forget about it?

Are you sure its not one of the modern ones that overflows into the
toilet rather than down a separate pipe? Take the lid off the cistern,
hold the float down and see what happens as it fills up.

Tony
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Old 19-12.-2004, 08:08 PM   #4
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On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 09:51:55 +0000, Simon Hawthorne
<groups@thehawthornes.org> wrote:

>toilet fitted. Now this might sound stupid to you but I've only just
>noticed there is no overflow on the cistern. There is a photo of the
>toilet (with the pipes showing - they are now boxed in) -
>http://thehawthornes.org/the_lodge/toilet_overflow.htm
>
>What is the best way to fix this problem.....?


Shove a length of hosepipe in the top of the cistern, fixed at the
required height with parcel tape.

Connect the other end of this pipe to the input of an DC powered pump.

Connect the electrical terminals of the pump to your bicycles dynamo,
and place your bike on your turbo-trainer.

With a little forethought it will be possible to mount the
trainer/bike combination such that it can be pedalled whilst sitting
on the toilet.

Whenever you flush the toilet, pedal for the equivalent distance of
about five miles.

For the sake of cleanliness, you may wish to run a further length of
hosepipe from the output of the pump to the handwash basin.

Hope this helps.

Right, I'm off for a ride now ... armed with camera.

Rich x

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Old 19-12.-2004, 08:27 PM   #5
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Richard Bates wrote:
> With a little forethought it will be possible to mount the
> trainer/bike combination such that it can be pedalled whilst sitting
> on the toilet.


Which brought the mental image of a recumbent toilet. Time for a ride
methinks!

Jon
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Old 19-12.-2004, 08:28 PM   #6
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On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 09:51:55 +0000, Simon Hawthorne
<groups@thehawthornes.org> wrote:

>What is the best way to fix this problem.....?


Turn the downstairs toilet into a bike shed.
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Old 19-12.-2004, 08:47 PM   #7
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On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 09:51:55 +0000 someone who may be Simon
Hawthorne <groups@thehawthornes.org> wrote this:-

>http://thehawthornes.org/the_lodge/toilet_overflow.htm
>
>What is the best way to fix this problem.....?


Sorry, this is a serious answer.

There is no best way of fixing this problem, as it depends on many
factors. Does the toilet have an internal overflow? Is there an
outside wall nearby? Hopefully in the other group you can get
answers recommending an approach to suit the particular
circumstances.


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Old 19-12.-2004, 08:47 PM   #8
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On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 10:08:17 +0000, Richard Bates
<usenet01@artybee.net> wrote:

>Hope this helps.
>
>Right, I'm off for a ride now ... armed with camera.
>
>Rich x



Hehe... thanks all. I honestly thought you'd have all been out
cycling this morning - enabling me to delete my post before anyone saw
it...!

Tony was right - the cistern does have a built in overlow, so no need
to worry - so I can happily go out on my bike safe in the knowledge
that there will be no puddles when I get home.

Cheers!

Si
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Old 19-12.-2004, 10:32 PM   #9
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On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 10:08:17 +0000, Richard Bates <usenet01@artybee.net> wrote:
> >
> >What is the best way to fix this problem.....?

>
> Shove a length of hosepipe in the top of the cistern, fixed at the
> required height with parcel tape.
>
> Connect the other end of this pipe to the input of an DC powered pump.
>
> Connect the electrical terminals of the pump to your bicycles dynamo,
> and place your bike on your turbo-trainer.


But but but - a bicycle dynamo produces AC, does it not? You'll need
some rectification (or a low voltage AC pump).

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Old 19-12.-2004, 10:51 PM   #10
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On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 10:47:14 +0000, David Hansen
<SENDdavidNOhSPAM@spidacom.co.uk> wrote:

>On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 09:51:55 +0000 someone who may be Simon
>Hawthorne <groups@thehawthornes.org> wrote this:-
>
>>http://thehawthornes.org/the_lodge/toilet_overflow.htm
>>
>>What is the best way to fix this problem.....?

>
>Sorry, this is a serious answer.
>
>There is no best way of fixing this problem, as it depends on many
>factors. Does the toilet have an internal overflow? Is there an
>outside wall nearby? Hopefully in the other group you can get
>answers recommending an approach to suit the particular
>circumstances.


The internal overflow question is your first port of call. Judging by
the shadows cast, it looks like there is a window above the sink, in
which case fitting an overflow will be an easy job [you want 22mm
overflow pipe]. There should be a relevant overflow hole on the base
of the cistern on the right hand side [plugged up!] opposite to where
the mains water enters. Or, there'll be an appropriate hole on the
side of the cistern [either side], which will also have a plastic
stopper in it. An overflow can be fitted in any of these.

Or....you could just fit an internal overflow, which means replacing
the whole siphon.

Either way, whatever is the case you DEFINITELY want an overflow.
Having said that when I put a new toilet in my flat I went without an
overflow for about 5 years. Eventually I just got tired of thinking I
needed to finish the job ever time I used the bog!

Garry
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Old 20-12.-2004, 12:37 AM   #11
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Response to garryb59:
> Eventually I just got tired of thinking I
> needed to finish the job ever time I used the bog!
>


*Too* much information! :-D

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Old 20-12.-2004, 02:09 AM   #12
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On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 14:37:47 -0000, Mark McN
<marknospam33@gesualdo.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

>Response to garryb59:
>> Eventually I just got tired of thinking I
>> needed to finish the job ever time I used the bog!
>>

>
>*Too* much information! :-D


Ah yes, sorry about that :-)

Garry

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Old 23-12.-2004, 06:01 AM   #13
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On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 09:56:22 +0000, Tony Raven <junk@raven-family.com>
wrote in message <32l1i6F3l0p0tU1@individual.net>:

>> What is the best way to fix this problem.....?

>Go out for a ride and try and forget about it?


I thought it was about half_wit until I noticed the word "cistern" in
the Subject line...

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