What's wrong with the main site?

Sniper8052(L96A1)

Has anyone else had problems reading messages on the URC site? When I
log in none of the messages have been updated.
Sniper8052

Just zis Guy, you know?

On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 11:45:11 GMT, "Sniper8052(L96A1)"
<sniper8052@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
<b3wBd.8672$3U1.6191@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk>:

>Has anyone else had problems reading messages on the URC site?

Um, site? This is Usenet!

Guy
--
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blue, and theyre beastes wyth straynge horn-lyke thyngs
onn theyre arses that theyre fartes be herde from myles
around." Chaucer, the Sheppey Tales

Call me Bob

On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 11:45:11 GMT, "Sniper8052(L96A1)"
<sniper8052@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>Has anyone else had problems reading messages on the URC site? When I
>log in none of the messages have been updated.
>Sniper8052

URC site? This is a usenet group, we don't have a site.

--

Call me "Bob"

"More oneness, less categories,
Open hearts, no strategies"

Email address is spam trapped, to reply directly remove the beverage.

Peter B

"Sniper8052(L96A1)" <sniper8052@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:b3wBd.8672$3U1.6191@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> Has anyone else had problems reading messages on the URC site? When I
> log in none of the messages have been updated.

Situation normal. You could try another newserver and/or Google groups. I
often receive posts long after they were sent or only the replies to the OP
but not the OP.

Anyone more technically proficient able to make recommendations for
improvement?

TIA,
Pete

Pete Biggs

Peter B wrote:
> "Sniper8052(L96A1)" <sniper8052@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:b3wBd.8672$3U1.6191@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> Has anyone else had problems reading messages on the URC site? When
>> I log in none of the messages have been updated.

Try "resetting" your software.

> Situation normal. You could try another newserver and/or Google
> groups. I often receive posts long after they were sent or only the
> replies to the OP but not the OP.
>
> Anyone more technically proficient able to make recommendations for
> improvement?

Use the free news.individual.net server--very reliable and quick, messages
usually appear within seconds of posting.

See http://www.individual.net

~PB

Simon Brooke

in message <b3wBd.8672$3U1.6191@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk>, Sniper805
(L96A1) ('sniper8052@yahoo.co.uk') wrote:

> Has anyone else had problems reading messages on the URC site? When I
> log in none of the messages have been updated.

There is no URC site. Usenet doesn't work like that; it's a
store-and-forward network. It sounds as if your local server (most
likely your ISP's news server) isn't accepting messages; there could be
a lot of reasons for this (not enough bandwidth, not enough disk,
broken software...). If your ISP's news server is crap, one solution
would be to get an account with a different server; many of us use
news.individual.net.

--
simon@jasmine.org.uk (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
;; If Python is executable pseudocode,
;; then Perl is executable line noise
-- seen on Slashdot.

Dave Kahn

Simon Brooke wrote:

> There is no URC site. Usenet doesn't work like that; it's a
> store-and-forward network. It sounds as if your local server (most
> likely your ISP's news server) isn't accepting messages; there could be
> a lot of reasons for this (not enough bandwidth, not enough disk,
> broken software...). If your ISP's news server is crap, one solution
> would be to get an account with a different server; many of us use
> news.individual.net.

For people, like me, on BlueYonder the news server given in the set-up
documentation - news.blueyonder.co.uk - is very patchy. There is,
however, the text-only alternative news-text.blueyonder.co.uk. This is
orders of magnitude better as long as you don't need to access the
newsgroups that carry binaries.

--
Dave...

Every time I see an adult on a bicycle, I no longer despair for the
future of the human race. - H. G. Wells

Sniper8052(L96A1)

Dave Kahn wrote:
> Simon Brooke wrote:
>
>> There is no URC site. Usenet doesn't work like that; it's a
>> store-and-forward network. It sounds as if your local server (most
>> likely your ISP's news server) isn't accepting messages; there could be
>> a lot of reasons for this (not enough bandwidth, not enough disk,
>> broken software...). If your ISP's news server is crap, one solution
>> would be to get an account with a different server; many of us use
>> news.individual.net.
>
>
> For people, like me, on BlueYonder the news server given in the set-up
> documentation - news.blueyonder.co.uk - is very patchy. There is,
> however, the text-only alternative news-text.blueyonder.co.uk. This is
> orders of magnitude better as long as you don't need to access the
> newsgroups that carry binaries.
>

Ah yes blueyonder those bastions of reliability. Though the messages
were appearing in my firefox windows sometime later (5-8 hours) they
weren't appearing on the internet. Will have a look at
http://www.individual.net to see if I can get a faster feed.
Thanks all
Sniper8052.

Peter B

"Simon Brooke" <simon@jasmine.org.uk> wrote in message
news:8npia2-5m1.ln1@gododdin.internal.jasmine.org.uk...
>If your ISP's news server is crap, one solution
> would be to get an account with a different server; many of us use
> news.individual.net.

Thanks Simon, so do I now.
My news.individual.net acount has retrieved 8 posts re this thread whereas
my BT account has only retrieved
6, I'll see if that's the general trend.

Pete

Peter B

"Peter B" <peter28@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:33sc5nF412q1mU1@individual.net...
>
> "Simon Brooke" <simon@jasmine.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:8npia2-5m1.ln1@gododdin.internal.jasmine.org.uk...
> >If your ISP's news server is crap, one solution
> > would be to get an account with a different server; many of us use
> > news.individual.net.
>
> Thanks Simon, so do I now.
> My news.individual.net acount has retrieved 8 posts re this thread whereas
> my BT account has only retrieved
> 6, I'll see if that's the general trend.

A quick poll shows no "Re:" messages in the individual account and masses in
the BT account.

Simon Brooke

in message <33sc5nF412q1mU1@individual.net>, Peter B
('peter28@btinternet.com') wrote:

>
> "Simon Brooke" <simon@jasmine.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:8npia2-5m1.ln1@gododdin.internal.jasmine.org.uk...
>>If your ISP's news server is crap, one solution
>> would be to get an account with a different server; many of us use
>> news.individual.net.
>
> Thanks Simon, so do I now.
> My news.individual.net acount has retrieved 8 posts re this thread
> whereas my BT account has only retrieved
> 6, I'll see if that's the general trend.

OK, but there is a subsidiary point here. You (and I) are paying BT to
provide us with a service - namely an NNTP news server - which BT are
failing to provide. Instead of hassling BT to deliver on their contract
we're freeloading off a German academic institution, which means
ultimately freeloading off the German taxpayer.

I think there's some degree of moral obligation on us either to kick
some butt at BT until they do deliver an adequate service, to find a
reliable commercial Usenet provider, or to start to rebuild the
informal peer-to-peer network which Usenet grew out of.

--
simon@jasmine.org.uk (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

There are no messages. The above is just a random stream of
bytes. Any opinion or meaning you find in it is your own creation.

Tony Raven

Simon Brooke wrote:
>
> OK, but there is a subsidiary point here. You (and I) are paying BT to
> provide us with a service - namely an NNTP news server - which BT are
> failing to provide.

Its probably their safe surfing filters blocking any mention of spoke
nipples that's doing it ;-)

Tony

Carol Hague

Simon Brooke <simon@jasmine.org.uk> wrote:


> OK, but there is a subsidiary point here. You (and I) are paying BT to
> provide us with a service - namely an NNTP news server - which BT are
> failing to provide. Instead of hassling BT to deliver on their contract
> we're freeloading off a German academic institution, which means
> ultimately freeloading off the German taxpayer.

Personally I'd be quite happy to pay for the news.individual.net service
if there was any way to do so - would they accept an envelope containing
leftover holiday Euros d'you think? :-)

--
Carol
"Mmmmooooowooooff!" - the Moobark, "The Treacle People"

Dave Kahn

Sniper8052(L96A1) wrote:

> Ah yes blueyonder those bastions of reliability. Though the messages
> were appearing in my firefox windows sometime later (5-8 hours) they
> weren't appearing on the internet. Will have a look at
> http://www.individual.net to see if I can get a faster feed.
> Thanks all
> Sniper8052.

I can't say I've had any problems of that sort - just that the default
news server becomes unavailable every few minutes. The text only one
seems fine most of the time though it did disappear for a while the
other day.

--
Dave...

Every time I see an adult on a bicycle, I no longer despair for the
future of the human race. - H. G. Wells