Moots Frames

Tosspot

Having had no reply to the Setavento thread, itself a bad sign, I was
considering this

http://www.moots.com/custom-rohloff.php

on the Rigor Mootis frame. With discs as shown[1].

Now, having had a *good* look around, I know that *evryone* makes the
best frames in the world, and some even claim to be helping the Chinese
people out of their poverty and on the road to democracy and riches.
So, as usual, first hand experience required.

Has anyone ridden/owned/got a mate who know anything about them?

F.

[1] Yes, it is a wankfest, but I dont care. I've got the money and I
want a trekking bike with a Rohloff and I dont see why it shouldnt be
titanium. Oh, and I don't need suspension before anyone points this
out. RC31 forks, Hope M4 brakes, Brookes Swift and a few bits of metal
to hang on it.

JBB

"Tosspot" <FrankDotLeake@esa.int> wrote in message
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>
> Having had no reply to the Setavento thread, itself a bad sign, I was
> considering this
>
> http://www.moots.com/custom-rohloff.php
>
> on the Rigor Mootis frame. With discs as shown[1].
>
> Now, having had a *good* look around, I know that *evryone* makes the best
> frames in the world, and some even claim to be helping the Chinese people
> out of their poverty and on the road to democracy and riches. So, as
> usual, first hand experience required.
>
> Has anyone ridden/owned/got a mate who know anything about them?
>
> F.
>
> [1] Yes, it is a wankfest, but I dont care. I've got the money and I want
> a trekking bike with a Rohloff and I dont see why it shouldnt be titanium.
> Oh, and I don't need suspension before anyone points this out. RC31
> forks, Hope M4 brakes, Brookes Swift and a few bits of metal to hang on
> it.

I'm fairly sure you didn't get a reply to the Setavento thread because
no-one had anything useful to add - you seemed to have done a fair amount of
research yourself!
I can't add anything useful to your request for info on Moots - again
because it's fairly specialised for this group. You might get better results
from alt.mountain-bike especially as it is an American product. However as
an aside if you are considering titanium you might want to go the whole hog
and get made to measure - about £1000 from Omega cycles in Brighton who will
build what you want. Then build up the frame with bits of your choice or
they will do it for you.
No connection other than as a satisfied customer.

HTH
Julia

Tosspot

JBB wrote:

> "Tosspot" <FrankDotLeake@esa.int> wrote in message
> news:csb4bp$a4m$03$1@news.t-online.com...
>
>>Having had no reply to the Setavento thread, itself a bad sign, I was
>>considering this
>>
>>http://www.moots.com/custom-rohloff.php
>>
>>on the Rigor Mootis frame. With discs as shown[1].
>>
>>Now, having had a *good* look around, I know that *evryone* makes the best
>>frames in the world, and some even claim to be helping the Chinese people
>>out of their poverty and on the road to democracy and riches. So, as
>>usual, first hand experience required.
>>
>>Has anyone ridden/owned/got a mate who know anything about them?
>>
>>F.
>>
>>[1] Yes, it is a wankfest, but I dont care. I've got the money and I want
>>a trekking bike with a Rohloff and I dont see why it shouldnt be titanium.
>>Oh, and I don't need suspension before anyone points this out. RC31
>>forks, Hope M4 brakes, Brookes Swift and a few bits of metal to hang on
>>it.
>
> I'm fairly sure you didn't get a reply to the Setavento thread because
> no-one had anything useful to add - you seemed to have done a fair amount of
> research yourself!
> I can't add anything useful to your request for info on Moots - again
> because it's fairly specialised for this group. You might get better results
> from alt.mountain-bike especially as it is an American product. However as
> an aside if you are considering titanium you might want to go the whole hog
> and get made to measure - about £1000 from Omega cycles in Brighton who will
> build what you want. Then build up the frame with bits of your choice or
> they will do it for you.
> No connection other than as a satisfied customer.

Cheers, I shall pop over there forethwith and see what they have. I
would acttually prefer not buy American but almost all of this market
seems North American based.

The big attaction with Moots was the fact they sell it as an option. I
dont have to explain to anybody about two gear cables and no cable stops
at all.

JBB

"Tosspot" <FrankDotLeake@esa.int> wrote in message
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> JBB wrote:
>
>> "Tosspot" <FrankDotLeake@esa.int> wrote in message
>> news:csb4bp$a4m$03$1@news.t-online.com...
>>
>>>Having had no reply to the Setavento thread, itself a bad sign, I was
>>>considering this
>>>
>>>http://www.moots.com/custom-rohloff.php
>>>
>>>on the Rigor Mootis frame. With discs as shown[1].
>>>
>>>Now, having had a *good* look around, I know that *evryone* makes the
>>>best frames in the world, and some even claim to be helping the Chinese
>>>people out of their poverty and on the road to democracy and riches. So,
>>>as usual, first hand experience required.
>>>
>>>Has anyone ridden/owned/got a mate who know anything about them?
>>>
>>>F.
>>>
>>>[1] Yes, it is a wankfest, but I dont care. I've got the money and I want
>>>a trekking bike with a Rohloff and I dont see why it shouldnt be
>>>titanium. Oh, and I don't need suspension before anyone points this out.
>>>RC31 forks, Hope M4 brakes, Brookes Swift and a few bits of metal to hang
>>>on it.
>>
>> I'm fairly sure you didn't get a reply to the Setavento thread because
>> no-one had anything useful to add - you seemed to have done a fair amount
>> of research yourself!
>> I can't add anything useful to your request for info on Moots - again
>> because it's fairly specialised for this group. You might get better
>> results from alt.mountain-bike especially as it is an American product.
>> However as an aside if you are considering titanium you might want to go
>> the whole hog and get made to measure - about £1000 from Omega cycles in
>> Brighton who will build what you want. Then build up the frame with bits
>> of your choice or they will do it for you.
>> No connection other than as a satisfied customer.
>
> Cheers, I shall pop over there forethwith and see what they have. I would
> acttually prefer not buy American but almost all of this market seems
> North American based.
>
> The big attaction with Moots was the fact they sell it as an option. I
> dont have to explain to anybody about two gear cables and no cable stops
> at all.

Good luck! They seem to understand about the Rohloff hub and they are pretty
quick on the uptake and will not try and sell you something that you don't
want. Thier website http://www.omegacycleworks.co.uk/custom.htm is probably
worth a look and they do make titanium forks if that's what you want.

HTH
Julia

Tony Raven

Tosspot wrote:
>
> Having had no reply to the Setavento thread, itself a bad sign, I was
> considering this
>
>

I replied if you bothered to read it.

Tony

Tony Raven

Tosspot wrote:
>
> Having had no reply to the Setavento thread, itself a bad sign, I was
> considering this
>
> http://www.moots.com/custom-rohloff.php
>

Moots are handmade frames by a rather quirky frame builder in the US.
They have a very good reputation.

Tony

JBB

"Tony Raven" <junk@raven-family.com> wrote in message
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> Tosspot wrote:
>>
>> Having had no reply to the Setavento thread, itself a bad sign, I was
>> considering this
>>
>>
>
> I replied if you bothered to read it.
>
> Tony

Sorry to say that no-one had replied to him - I didn't check . Just
remebered some stuff about the company but no posts about the product.

Julia

Tosspot

Tony Raven wrote:

> Tosspot wrote:
>
>>
>> Having had no reply to the Setavento thread, itself a bad sign, I was
>> considering this
>>
>>
>
>
> I replied if you bothered to read it.

<tugs forelock> Yes, but you were the only one, and you hadnt had any
direct contact.

They still looked extremely dodgy to me.

Tosspot

Tony Raven wrote:

> Tosspot wrote:
>
>>
>> Having had no reply to the Setavento thread, itself a bad sign, I was
>> considering this
>>
>> http://www.moots.com/custom-rohloff.php
>>
>
> Moots are handmade frames by a rather quirky frame builder in the US.
> They have a very good reputation.

Go on then, what's 'quirky' mean. OK, I accept it *looks*[1] a bit
quirky, but from the piccies, it looks bearable.

F.

[1] Actually, I dont think it looks that good, but they are competive,
do the Rohloff option, and they seem to be, how shall I say, used.

Andy Dingley

On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:03:46 +0100, Tosspot <FrankDotLeake@esa.int>
wrote:

>Has anyone ridden/owned/got a mate who know anything about them?

I've ridden one of their old Ti frames with the sawn-through seatstays
and the rubber bung in the gap. Very nice it was too and I'd have no
problem buying a Moots on the basis of that.

My main ride is one of the Chinese-fab-Ti competition - a Habanero. I
certainly love Ti as a frame material, so long as you're not paying
Litespeed prices for it.

--
Smert' spamionam

Ningi

Andy Dingley wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:03:46 +0100, Tosspot <FrankDotLeake@esa.int>
> wrote:
>
>
>>Has anyone ridden/owned/got a mate who know anything about them?
>
>
> I've ridden one of their old Ti frames with the sawn-through seatstays
> and the rubber bung in the gap. Very nice it was too and I'd have no
> problem buying a Moots on the basis of that.
>
> My main ride is one of the Chinese-fab-Ti competition - a Habanero. I
> certainly love Ti as a frame material, so long as you're not paying
> Litespeed prices for it.
>

Couldn't agree more. I'm very happy with the quality of my Habanero and
at a much more sensible price for a custom frame than elsewhere.

The decals are a bit weak, but that's about my only complaint

Pete