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London taxis: change in the law

 
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Old 15-01.-2005, 11:20 PM   #1
Mark McNeill
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Default London taxis: change in the law

I see from today's Guardian -

http://www.guardian.co.uk/transport...1390901,00.html

that motorbike taxis are to be outlawed in London as a result of a rule
change by Ken Livingstone, which states that a private hire vehicle
should have four wheels.

Will this apply to the cycle rickshaws in London, does anybody know?
Sounds to me like the taxicab lobby have pulled a fast one.

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Old 15-01.-2005, 11:41 PM   #2
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Mark McNeill wrote:
> I see from today's Guardian -
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/transport...1390901,00.html
>
> that motorbike taxis are to be outlawed in London as a result of a rule
> change by Ken Livingstone, which states that a private hire vehicle
> should have four wheels.
>
> Will this apply to the cycle rickshaws in London, does anybody know?
> Sounds to me like the taxicab lobby have pulled a fast one.
>


Rickshaws currently fall outside of all regulation and licencing. Which,
for the avoidance of doubt, is a Good Thing.

Unless the proposals are trying to bring rickshaws as a whole under
regulation, the number of wheels they have will remain irrelevant.
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Old 16-01.-2005, 12:03 AM   #3
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Default Re: London taxis: change in the law

Mark McNeill wrote:
> I see from today's Guardian -
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/transport...1390901,00.html
>
> that motorbike taxis are to be outlawed in London as a result of a rule
> change by Ken Livingstone, which states that a private hire vehicle
> should have four wheels.
>
> Will this apply to the cycle rickshaws in London, does anybody know?
> Sounds to me like the taxicab lobby have pulled a fast one.
>

Thanks for pointing that out. The last sentence is chilling:

"A TfL spokeswoman said: "The purpose of private hire licensing is to
ensure the safety of passengers. We're not convinced that motorcycle
taxis are safe.""

What would it take to convince them if a safety record of nobody at all
killed or seriously injured is not sufficient?

Because they are "not convinced" they are banning a mode of public
transport with an excellent safety record, reducing the choice available
to people, stifling competition, putting several blameless companies out
of business and putting their staff out of work.

It's a good illustration of prejudice triumphing over evidence. Someone
could easily say the same to produce a mandatory cycle helmet law.

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Joe * If I cannot be free I'll be cheap
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Old 16-01.-2005, 11:27 AM   #4
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Response to Not Responding:
> Rickshaws currently fall outside of all regulation and licencing. Which,
> for the avoidance of doubt, is a Good Thing.
>
> Unless the proposals are trying to bring rickshaws as a whole under
> regulation, the number of wheels they have will remain irrelevant.
>


Ta, and relieved (purely on principle) to hear it.

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Old 19-01.-2005, 07:35 AM   #5
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"JLB" <JLB@bigbad.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:csb7rm$qrf$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk...
> Mark McNeill wrote:
> > I see from today's Guardian -
> >
> > http://www.guardian.co.uk/transport...1390901,00.html
> >
> > that motorbike taxis are to be outlawed in London as a result of a rule
> > change by Ken Livingstone, which states that a private hire vehicle
> > should have four wheels.
> >
> > Will this apply to the cycle rickshaws in London, does anybody know?
> > Sounds to me like the taxicab lobby have pulled a fast one.
> >

> Thanks for pointing that out. The last sentence is chilling:
>
> "A TfL spokeswoman said: "The purpose of private hire licensing is to
> ensure the safety of passengers. We're not convinced that motorcycle
> taxis are safe.""
>
> What would it take to convince them if a safety record of nobody at all
> killed or seriously injured is not sufficient?
>


Or alternatively - as it's "obviously" more dangerous, the customer is (or
would have been) free to make an informed choice - convenience versus risk.

Hywel


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