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Old 21-01.-2005, 07:21 PM   #1
David Martin
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Default Bright ideas

Doing the shopping last night and noticed that the supermarket had Tireflys
on the shelf. So a pair of orange ones (keep it legal on road) went into the
trolley.

They appear to be quite obvious to others.. several comments at the bike
shed today. Have to see how they fare tonight in the dark commute home.

...d

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Old 21-01.-2005, 08:06 PM   #2
Mark Thompson
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> Doing the shopping last night and noticed that the supermarket had
> Tireflys on the shelf.


Which supermarket? How much?

> They appear to be quite obvious to others.. several comments at the
> bike shed today. Have to see how they fare tonight in the dark commute
> home.


Saw some the other week and they're very good. They visible from sort-of-
head-on so should be excellent at stopping SMIDSYs waiting to pull out of
junctions.

Um, will they fit to a presta?
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Old 21-01.-2005, 08:50 PM   #3
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On 21/1/05 10:06 am, in article
Xns95E566E457B45pleasegivegenerously@130.133.1.4, "Mark Thompson"
<pleasegivegenerously@warmmail.com> wrote:

>> Doing the shopping last night and noticed that the supermarket had
>> Tireflys on the shelf.

>
> Which supermarket? How much?


Tesco (big ones only I think.. If yours sells bikes then they may sell these
too)
>
>> They appear to be quite obvious to others.. several comments at the
>> bike shed today. Have to see how they fare tonight in the dark commute
>> home.

>
> Saw some the other week and they're very good. They visible from sort-of-
> head-on so should be excellent at stopping SMIDSYs waiting to pull out of
> junctions.
>
> Um, will they fit to a presta?

If you have a presta to schraeder adapter. I used to have one somewhere so I
could use garage airlines to fill up presta valve tyres.

...d

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Old 21-01.-2005, 09:07 PM   #4
David Martin
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On 21/1/05 10:50 am, in article BE168F06.7D3C%d.m.a.martin@dundee.ac.uk,
"David Martin" <d.m.a.martin@dundee.ac.uk> wrote:

>> Um, will they fit to a presta?

> If you have a presta to schraeder adapter. I used to have one somewhere so I
> could use garage airlines to fill up presta valve tyres.


like these: http://www.teamestrogen.com/products.asp?pID=7038

...d

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Old 22-01.-2005, 05:00 AM   #5
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David Martin wrote:
> Doing the shopping last night and noticed that the supermarket had Tireflys
> on the shelf. So a pair of orange ones (keep it legal on road) went into the
> trolley.


They're still not legal. The lighting regulations don't allow you to
use flashing lights, or lights that move independently of the steering.
I can't see you getting stopped for using them, though. I used a red
set myself last winter.

I bought mine online, but I've noticed them in Wilkinson's recently.

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Old 22-01.-2005, 05:41 AM   #6
David Martin
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Danny Colyer wrote:
> David Martin wrote:
>
>> Doing the shopping last night and noticed that the supermarket had
>> Tireflys
>> on the shelf. So a pair of orange ones (keep it legal on road) went
>> into the
>> trolley.

>
>
> They're still not legal. The lighting regulations don't allow you to
> use flashing lights, or lights that move independently of the steering.
> I can't see you getting stopped for using them, though. I used a red
> set myself last winter.


I thought it was legal to add orange warning lights to any vehicle. They
are orange, they are flashing and with me around, you need a warning ;-)

...d

>
> I bought mine online, but I've noticed them in Wilkinson's recently.
>

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Old 22-01.-2005, 07:05 AM   #7
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On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 19:41:40 +0000, David Martin
<martin-family@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

>Danny Colyer wrote:
>> David Martin wrote:
>>
>>> Doing the shopping last night and noticed that the supermarket had
>>> Tireflys
>>> on the shelf. So a pair of orange ones (keep it legal on road) went
>>> into the
>>> trolley.

>>
>>
>> They're still not legal. The lighting regulations don't allow you to
>> use flashing lights, or lights that move independently of the steering.
>> I can't see you getting stopped for using them, though. I used a red
>> set myself last winter.

>
>I thought it was legal to add orange warning lights to any vehicle. They
>are orange, they are flashing and with me around, you need a warning ;-)


And putting them on the front wheel means that they are NOT moving
independently of the steering (yes, I know that the wheel goes round
but it is not possible to steer unless this happens)

[I wonder if my ISP will take 3 days to publish this message, like the
last ones)

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Old 22-01.-2005, 11:44 AM   #8
Jon Senior
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Richard Bates wrote:
> [I wonder if my ISP will take 3 days to publish this message, like the
> last ones)


I emailed Clara net about this. It's not the first time that their news
server has had "issues". I've not got a number of posts from other
people, and I think some of mine never turned up! It may be time to
consider that account with individual.net!

Jon
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Old 22-01.-2005, 11:56 AM   #9
David Martin
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Danny Colyer wrote:
> David Martin wrote:
>
>> I thought it was legal to add orange warning lights to any vehicle.
>> They are orange, they are flashing and with me around, you need a
>> warning ;-)

>
>
> The regulations covering warning lights are at
> <URL:http://www.hmso.gov.uk/si/si1989/Uksi_19891796_en_4.htm#(Tiii)26requirementaboutusewarningbeacon>


OK, so I have illegal flashing lights, illegal front light and illegal
rear light. But I am visible..

Have to check to see whether my lights meet any other European standards.

...d



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Old 23-01.-2005, 02:39 AM   #10
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Danny Colyer wrote:
> David Martin wrote:
>
>> I thought it was legal to add orange warning lights to any vehicle.
>> They are orange, they are flashing and with me around, you need a
>> warning ;-)


<snip>
>
> (ii) on a motorway or unrestricted dual-carriageway, to warn
> following drivers of a need to slow down due to a temporary obstruction
> ahead; or
>


Coo, I never knew that - I knew it was a common usage, but didn't
realise it was actually legal.

>
> 7, an amber warning beacon may not be lit except:
> (i) at the scene of an emergency;
>
> (ii) when it is necessary or desirable to warn persons of the
> presence of the vehicle; and
>
> (iii) in the case of a breakdown vehicle, while it is being used
> in connection with, and in the immediate vicinity of, an accident or
> breakdown, or while it is being used to draw a broken-down vehicle.
>


>
> I think that pretty much covers it, unless the 1989 regs have been
> superseded, which I don't believe they have yet.


They have... though it could well be in a separate bit of legislation
that makes it not only legal, but compulsory, to use an amber beacon on
slow-moving vehicles on unrestricted dual carriageways.

What constitutes a slow-moving vehicle for this purpose is a rather
complicated definition - but a pedal cycle doesn't count.

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