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23-01.-2005, 12:22 AM
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Re: Cheaper workstands - any good?
"Jeremy Collins" <jd.collins@ntlworld-not.com> wrote in message news:32uId.146$XL5.92@newsfe6-win.ntli.net... > Hi all, > > I'm pretty fed up at leaning the bikes up against things to work on > them, and have been looking at workstands on Wiggle. > > Yikes, some of them are expensive, I don't really want to spend more > than £40. > > Can anybody share their experiences with something like this > > http://www.wiggle.co.uk/?ProductID=5360007167 > > or this > > http://www.wiggle.co.uk/?ProductID=5360011766 > > Can you work on the gears and drivetrain without too much hassle? Are > they stable enough for a tall bloke's hybrid? The trouble with them is that you have to bend down. From personal experience: I bought something similar, but cruder, to the ones on the links, it was better than nowt, just, then I bought a Minoura W300 2nd hand from an ad in the paper. What a revelation! Knowing what I know now I'd willingly have bought one full price, there is no comparison to the ones that support only the back wheel, and what if you want to remove the back wheel? I s'pose it boils down t how often you may use it and whether you have, or want to have back problems :-) Pete |
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23-01.-2005, 01:10 AM
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Cheaper workstands - any good?
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I'm pretty fed up at leaning the bikes up against things to work on them, and have been looking at workstands on Wiggle. Yikes, some of them are expensive, I don't really want to spend more than £40. Can anybody share their experiences with something like this http://www.wiggle.co.uk/?ProductID=5360007167 or this http://www.wiggle.co.uk/?ProductID=5360011766 Can you work on the gears and drivetrain without too much hassle? Are they stable enough for a tall bloke's hybrid? Cheers, -- jc Remove the -not from email |
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23-01.-2005, 02:03 AM
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Re: Cheaper workstands - any good?
Peter B wrote:
> "Jeremy Collins" <jd.collins@ntlworld-not.com> wrote in message > news:32uId.146$XL5.92@newsfe6-win.ntli.net... > >>Hi all, >> >>I'm pretty fed up at leaning the bikes up against things to work on >>them, and have been looking at workstands on Wiggle. >> >>Yikes, some of them are expensive, I don't really want to spend more >>than £40. >> >>Can anybody share their experiences with something like this >> >> http://www.wiggle.co.uk/?ProductID=5360007167 >> >>or this >> >> http://www.wiggle.co.uk/?ProductID=5360011766 >> >>Can you work on the gears and drivetrain without too much hassle? Are >>they stable enough for a tall bloke's hybrid? > > > > The trouble with them is that you have to bend down. > From personal experience: I bought something similar, but cruder, to the > ones on the links, it was better than nowt, just, then I bought a Minoura > W300 2nd hand from an ad in the paper. What a revelation! Knowing what I > know now I'd willingly have bought one full price, there is no comparison to > the ones that support only the back wheel, and what if you want to remove > the back wheel? > I s'pose it boils down t how often you may use it and whether you have, or > want to have back problems :-) Thanks, I just wanted to know they weren't completely cr*p! I'm pretty used to bending over to work on the bike, so my lower back knows what to expect! Cheers, -- jc Remove the -not from email |
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23-01.-2005, 03:39 AM
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Re: Cheaper workstands - any good?
in message <32uId.146$XL5.92@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>, Jeremy Collins
('jd.collins@ntlworld-not.com') wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm pretty fed up at leaning the bikes up against things to work on > them, and have been looking at workstands on Wiggle. > > Yikes, some of them are expensive, I don't really want to spend more > than £40. > > Can anybody share their experiences with something like this > > http://www.wiggle.co.uk/?ProductID=5360007167 > > or this > > http://www.wiggle.co.uk/?ProductID=5360011766 > > Can you work on the gears and drivetrain without too much hassle? Are > they stable enough for a tall bloke's hybrid? In that price bracket, you might consider this (wall-mounting bike clamp): <URL:http://www.wiggle.co.uk/?ProductID=5360014544> I use one of these (Minoura W3000), which is a bit more expensive but has proved a wonderful buy and easily worth the money: <URL:http://www.wiggle.co.uk/?ProductID=5360011766> -- simon@jasmine.org.uk (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/ ;; Generally Not Used ;; Except by Middle Aged Computer Scientists |
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23-01.-2005, 04:40 AM
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Re: Cheaper workstands - any good?
"Jeremy Collins" <jd.collins@ntlworld-not.com> wrote in message news:32uId.146$XL5.92@newsfe6-win.ntli.net... > Hi all, > > I'm pretty fed up at leaning the bikes up against things to work on > them, and have been looking at workstands on Wiggle. > > Yikes, some of them are expensive, I don't really want to spend more > than £40. > > Can anybody share their experiences with something like this > > http://www.wiggle.co.uk/?ProductID=5360007167 > > or this > > http://www.wiggle.co.uk/?ProductID=5360011766 > > Can you work on the gears and drivetrain without too much hassle? Are > they stable enough for a tall bloke's hybrid? They're OK, and I use one myself, but I'd much sooner spend a few quid more and gotten a proper stand that gets everything up in the air if I were buying a workstand again TBH. |
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23-01.-2005, 04:47 AM
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Simon Brooke wrote:
> I use [a] Minoura W3000, which is a bit more expensive but > has proved a wonderful buy and easily worth the money. From past experience, the two things that make a workstand a joy to use are to me a smooth running clamp that you can twirl open and closed with one finger, and rock-solid rotation (and then rock-solid holding) when adjusting the angle of the bike. As it happens, I'm also interested in buying (or making I expect) a workstand for the Windcheetah. I had a look through the stands that Wiggle stocks, and none of them are what I'm looking for because the main tube of the chassis is 50mm in diameter and none of the clamps go that big! There's also a stability issue since the centre of gravity would be above the clamp rather than far below it with a DF, and the machine weighs quite a bit as well. Anyone have any ideas before I buy some white PVC plumbing tubes and connectors and make the equivalent of axle stands? Becky |
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23-01.-2005, 08:35 AM
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Re: Cheaper workstands - any good?
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:10:55 GMT, Jeremy Collins
<jd.collins@ntlworld-not.com> wrote: >Hi all, > >I'm pretty fed up at leaning the bikes up against things to work on >them, and have been looking at workstands on Wiggle. In betwen the "lift the wheel off the ground" type and the "super-duper hold your bike at any angle" type are the "Hold your bike at waist height by supporting the bottom bracket and clamping the down tube" type. The OZZO stand was an example of this - it cost me around £30 many years ago. Unfortunately, Mike Dyason seems not to stock them any more. What I'm trying to say is that I'm sure you will get a more practical workstand for less than £40. I just don't know where from anymore! |
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23-01.-2005, 08:43 AM
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Re: Cheaper workstands - any good?
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:10:55 GMT, Jeremy Collins
<jd.collins@ntlworld-not.com> wrote in message <32uId.146$XL5.92@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>: >Can anybody share their experiences with something like this > http://www.wiggle.co.uk/?ProductID=5360007167 >or this > http://www.wiggle.co.uk/?ProductID=5360011766 >Can you work on the gears and drivetrain without too much hassle? Are >they stable enough for a tall bloke's hybrid? Yes, they are fine for adjusting gears etc., but not much cop for other work (BB etc.). I find mine invaluable for maintaining the 'bent, which does not fit on a standard workstand, and also handy to keep in a corner of the kitchen for odd job son the other bikes. I think you will find the DX more stable. Guy -- "then came ye chavves, theyre cartes girded wyth candels blue, and theyre beastes wyth straynge horn-lyke thyngs onn theyre arses that theyre fartes be herde from myles around." Chaucer, the Sheppey Tales |
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23-01.-2005, 09:04 AM
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Richard Bates wrote:
> In betwen the "lift the wheel off the ground" type and the > "super-duper hold your bike at any angle" type are the "Hold your bike > at waist height by supporting the bottom bracket and clamping the down > tube" type. I'm thinking of getting one of those (as I don't like the idea of clamping frame tubes, and my seatposts are usually not free). Any more comments or reviews on this type, folks? Are they stable enough for heavy-duty work? The ones that clamp the bike via front or rear forks look great except I wouldn't want to be rrrsed to remove a wheel for every job. ~PB |
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23-01.-2005, 11:04 AM
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Re: Cheaper workstands - any good?
in message <PcxId.193495$48.86434@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk>, Arellcat
('arellcat@hotmail.nospamthanks.com') wrote: > Simon Brooke wrote: > >> I use [a] Minoura W3000, which is a bit more expensive but >> has proved a wonderful buy and easily worth the money. > > From past experience, the two things that make a workstand a joy to > use are to me a smooth running clamp that you can twirl open and > closed with one finger, and rock-solid rotation (and then rock-solid > holding) when adjusting the angle of the bike. > > As it happens, I'm also interested in buying (or making I expect) a > workstand for the Windcheetah. I had a look through the stands that > Wiggle stocks, and none of them are what I'm looking for because the > main tube of > the chassis is 50mm in diameter and none of the clamps go that big! > There's also a stability issue since the centre of gravity would be > above the clamp rather than far below it with a DF, and the machine > weighs quite a bit as well. > Anyone have any ideas before I buy some white PVC plumbing tubes and > connectors and make the equivalent of axle stands? There are the workstand type clamps which bolt onto wall brackets. That would deal with the weight and stability issues, but you might have reach issues. You also need to be sure that your frame tubes will stand up to the crush force of the clamp jaw - my Cannondale frame's warranty specifically says the warranty is void if I clamp the bike anywhere but the seatpost. -- simon@jasmine.org.uk (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/ [ This .sig subject to change without notice ] |
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23-01.-2005, 11:30 AM
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> > In betwen the "lift the wheel off the ground" type and the > > "super-duper hold your bike at any angle" type are the "Hold your bike > > at waist height by supporting the bottom bracket and clamping the down > > tube" type. > > I'm thinking of getting one of those (as I don't like the idea of clamping > frame tubes, and my seatposts are usually not free). Any more comments or > reviews on this type, folks? Are they stable enough for heavy-duty work? > I've got a Tacx workstand - http://www.wiggle.co.uk/?ProductID=5300002447 - like that, if I've understood you & Richard correctly. If your gear cables run down the downtube, you'll have to be very careful not to trap them with the clamp, or rather what the clamp is clamping against. This can on occasion be a PITA. When performing controlled violence on the bike, you'll have to put one foot on the base, and be careful: a bike/stand combo flapping uncontrollably around in e.g. a kitchen can be destructive. DAMHIK... -- Mark, UK. Never believe anything until it has been officially denied. |
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23-01.-2005, 11:33 AM
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> Anyone have any ideas before I buy some white PVC plumbing tubes and > connectors and make the equivalent of axle stands? > I have the AVD rear rack on mine. I'm a lazy sod, so I confess I got a *big* block of timber 1.5" higher than the bottom of the rack, screwed shelf brackets all round, and just bung it under the rack when I want to get the rear wheel off the ground. I was going to put some sort of fixing on the block to stop the rack sliding off; so far it's not been necessary. -- Mark, UK. Never believe anything until it has been officially denied. |
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23-01.-2005, 05:44 PM
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Re: Cheaper workstands - any good?
"Pete Biggs" <pwrinkledgrape{remove_fruit}@biggs.tc> wrote in message news:35g4blF47ohrcU1@individual.net... > The ones that clamp the bike via front or rear forks look great except I > wouldn't want to be rrrsed to remove a wheel for every job. That's what I started with, a low stand which has a rest for the bottom bracket and a clamp for the front forks, apart from the bend-down factor it's fine for adjusting transmission and rear brake but little else. By design it rules out headset and suspension fork service, front brake service, and chainset and bottom bracket service are awkward with a major bend down & grovel factor.. I was going to say it's a half-measure but on reflection it isn't even close to half. The Minoura stand is great, clamp a tube or seat post and everything is presented at the correct height, ideal for everything from cleaning to a complete strip-down and rebuild. http://www.wiggle.co.uk/ Offer a Veloman stand that looks interesting if you have a spare wall. Pete |
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23-01.-2005, 07:03 PM
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Re: Cheaper workstands - any good?
Peter B wrote:
> > That's what I started with, a low stand which has a rest for the bottom > bracket and a clamp for the front forks, apart from the bend-down factor > it's fine for adjusting transmission and rear brake but little else. By > design it rules out headset and suspension fork service, front brake > service, and chainset and bottom bracket service are awkward with a major > bend down & grovel factor.. For real cheap, a couple of inner tubes or webbing straps looped over a rafter in the garage works pretty well. One goes round the saddle and one round the bars. Tony |
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23-01.-2005, 07:04 PM
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:04:49 -0000, Pete Biggs wrote:
> Richard Bates wrote: >> In betwen the "lift the wheel off the ground" type and the >> "super-duper hold your bike at any angle" type are the "Hold your bike >> at waist height by supporting the bottom bracket and clamping the down >> tube" type. > > I'm thinking of getting one of those (as I don't like the idea of clamping > frame tubes, and my seatposts are usually not free). Any more comments or > reviews on this type, folks? Are they stable enough for heavy-duty work? > > The ones that clamp the bike via front or rear forks look great except I > wouldn't want to be rrrsed to remove a wheel for every job. I bought one similar to the Tacx T3000 job, new, from SJS Cycles via eBay (auction) for £27.95 inc postage, some went for more, some went for less than that when I bought it a few months back. It goes by the name of "SJSC folding cycle repair stand" and is listed at £44.99 minus postage on their site. It might be worth contacting them regarding further auctions of said item. So far, having built up one bike, I'd say it has proved to be an excellent purchase. I've never owned any other type of workstand so I can't compare. What I can say is that on my GT Bravado, which has the two cables running along the downtube, is that it's a breeze to work with and doesn't foul the cables at all. It's solid enough and the clamp mechanism and bb cup are well designed, at least for my bike. For the price I paid I'd say it was a bargain. I also looked at the tube clamp swivel everywhere type but the cheapest I could find was £65-ish also on eBay. Good luck. -- Callaghan |
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