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Old 04-05.-2005, 07:52 AM   #1
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----- Original Message ----- From: Ed Arzouian
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Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 6:50 PM
Subject: Official Crit Championship or not?



Remi,

I suppose as the CCA Competition Coordinator you might have something to say about this below. I doubt our new COO has yet to get this far along the learning curve to have much of an informed opinion on National Crit Championships but I've sent it to him as well.

I don't know if this address works for Pejril. If it doesn't you can forward it to him. You will note in your typical inefficient CCA style the address on your web site for the 2005 Road Nationals still says "roadnats04".

Maybe you can fix that before July 2005?

Ed Arzouian.

PS I have posted this on www.cyclingforums.com

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Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 4:32 PM
Subject: Official Crit Championship or not?



Henry,

I'm told by CCA Board and Committee members even you favour re-instating the Official National Criterium Championships.

Will it be done this year or will I have to continue my campaign to make it happen?

I'll give you a week to let me know. Next Wednesday, May 11, 2005, 9AM Eastern Time if I have not heard back from you I will begin contacting the media and sponsors again pointing out the stupidity of this lack of marketing the sport in the proper fashion.

Sincerely,
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----- Original Message ----- From: Ed Arzouian
To: timhortons_roadnats05@shaw.ca ; competition ; steve.lacelle@canadian-cycling.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 6:57 PM
Subject: A new '05 address very good!



Well, that only took a day to change your email address as I suggested below .

Not bad.

Now how about announcing the Official Crit Championships and rules for the National Series and the prize money and hiring a Communications and Marketing Director before it is too late for the 2006 season. Don't go looking for 2006 sponsors in December 2005. If you do that we will have to wait for 2007, that will five years of complete waste.

Of course, I have posted this on www.cyclingforums.com so people will know you are paying attention.


----- Original Message ----- From: Ed Arzouian
To: competition
Cc: steve.lacelle@canadian-cycling.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 6:50 PM
Subject: Official Crit Championship or not?



Remi,

I suppose as the CCA Competition Coordinator you might have something to say about this below. I doubt our new COO has yet to get this far along the learning curve to have much of an informed opinion on National Crit Championships but I've sent it to him as well.

I don't know if this address works for Pejril. If it doesn't you can forward it to him. You will note in your typical inefficient CCA style the address on your web site for the 2005 Road Nationals still says "roadnats04".

Maybe you can fix that before July 2005?

Ed Arzouian.

PS I have posted this on www.cyclingforums.com

----- Original Message -----
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To: timhortons_roadnats04@shaw.ca
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 4:32 PM
Subject: Official Crit Championship or not?



Henry,

I'm told by CCA Board and Committee members even you favour re-instating the Official National Criterium Championships.

Will it be done this year or will I have to continue my campaign to make it happen?

I'll give you a week to let me know. Next Wednesday, May 11, 2005, 9AM Eastern Time if I have not heard back from you I will begin contacting the media and sponsors again pointing out the stupidity of this lack of marketing the sport in the proper fashion.

Sincerely,
Ed Arzouian
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The Road National organizers and the Canadian Cycling Association (CCA) met my deadline. They are learning:

The Criterium is a Domestic National Championship Title

According the CDN National Road Championship web site (http://www.canadiancycling.ca/roadn...einfo_day2.html), "The Criterium (being held in Kamloops, BC July 8, 2005) is a Domestic National Championship Title"

Does that mean it has full status, an official jersey, etc?

If so, congratulations, it is about time.

Common sense prevails....finally!

No need to thank me for my persistent effort over the last two years to get this change.

I'll tell you what, how about if I donate a tin cup? We can call it The Arzouian Cup and award it every year like Lord Stanley's.

Better than Stanley's Cup, though, I suggest the Canadian Cycling Association take The Arzouian Cup and display it on a corner on Bay Street and ask for donations.

Maybe CCA President Bill Kinash of Regina can get a little monkey and grinding organ. That can be his new marketing plan. It would be more effective than anything he has done in the last three season. Oh wait, of course it would have to be because there has been no marketing for the last three years, none at all.

You should have listened to me earlier, Bill, your time is running out, thank God. I told you I would send you back to your dustbowl.
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The Road National organizers and the Canadian Cycling Association (CCA) met my deadline. They are learning:

The Criterium is a Domestic National Championship Title

According the CDN National Road Championship web site (http://www.canadiancycling.ca/roadn...einfo_day2.html), "The Criterium (being held in Kamloops, BC July 8, 2005) is a Domestic National Championship Title"

Does that mean it has full status, an official jersey, etc?

If so, congratulations, it is about time.

Common sense prevails....finally!

No need to thank me for my persistent effort over the last two years to get this change.

I'll tell you what, how about if I donate a tin cup? We can call it The Arzouian Cup and award it every year like Lord Stanley's.

Better than Stanley's Cup, though, I suggest the Canadian Cycling Association take The Arzouian Cup and display it on a corner on Bay Street and ask for donations.

Maybe CCA President Bill Kinash of Regina can get a little monkey and grinding organ. That can be his new marketing plan. It would be more effective than anything he has done in the last three season. Oh wait, of course it would have to be because there has been no marketing for the last three years, none at all.

You should have listened to me earlier, Bill, your time is running out, thank God. I told you I would send you back to your dustbowl.

I don't know who you are but you just posted the same message on three different posts, and called someone the wrong name (Catabolic versus Catatonic). You need to get some manners, mister, and internet etiquette. And stop being so pessismistic, it's depressing and annoying!
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I don't know who you are but you just posted the same message on three different posts, and called someone the wrong name (Catabolic versus Catatonic). You need to get some manners, mister, and internet etiquette. And stop being so pessismistic, it's depressing and annoying!


this guy was banned from the Canadian Cyclist Forum and the Pedal Forum for this type of behavior - he tried to take them over and became abusive. He will do the same thing here.
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Nice try there, is no abuse here at all.

There was a method to my seeming madness.

If you know how this forum works you will understand.

First, I wanted to start a new topic, which I did.

Since this issue had already been touched upon in others thread that already had seen quite of few viewers, I decide to post it there was well because viewers will be notified by email that there is something new on the thread and they will go see it.

New viewers would go to the new thread.

In this way I was able to ensure that more people saw what is very good news: the criterium held during the road natioals is now an official national championship title, which it has not been for three or four years.

The only reason it is now is because I persisted in pointing out how foolish it was NOT to make it official.

It is worth noting this `Sub 55`has usually been the person to start personal attacks directed me at the other two forums. So it is not surprising he does so here.

As for Coffeeaholic if you do not know who I am you do not know too much about Canadian cycling or have just started in the sport. I ranthe best team in Canadian cycling history, Evian, Canada`s first pro team. I also directed the Montreal Womens Road Cup in 1999, Organized the nationals in 2003 and Managed the Shaklee Men`s Road Pro Team in Califorinia 1997 and at Beauce in 1996. I have also managed a couple national team projects. Before that I wrote for Pedal, VeloMag, VeloNews, The Gazette and covered the nationals for The Globe and Mail in 1988.
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Old 11-05.-2005, 07:02 AM   #7
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Actually, this is something that has been in the works for some time. The UCI has finally changed its mind about crits and will be having a world championship, should be announced soon. I've heard a few rumours about the world crit champs, that they will be in australia, beginning next year, and separate from the road worlds. So the CCA is going inline with the UCI plans. This has nothing to do with you, sir.
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Actually, this is something that has been in the works for some time. The UCI has finally changed its mind about crits and will be having a world championship, should be announced soon. I've heard a few rumours about the world crit champs, that they will be in australia, beginning next year, and separate from the road worlds. So the CCA is going inline with the UCI plans. This has nothing to do with you, sir.

Yeah, right.
I've have been pushing this for two years. I had a long conversation about it last time summer with Brett Stewart the Interim Director General of the CCA trying to defend the indefensible.

I heard from CCA Board and Committee Memberrs that even Henry Pejril, the Nats organizer, was coming around to my point of view.

I'm sure you can tell me all about internal debates occuring at the UCI, can't you???
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Old 11-05.-2005, 11:27 AM   #9
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LOL - Ed rides again. You are so idiotic man. Get a life.
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LOL - Ed rides again. You are so idiotic man. Get a life.

What is idoitic about getting a natioal criteruium championship back?

Yeah I should get alife! Take a look at what this person wrote to me at my home email address. He/She admits to harassing me simply out of spite. I contacted his/her employer: a Canwest nut case. And he/she telling me to get a life??? What a loony tune.

It is all here, have fun, make up your own minds:

----- Original Message ----- From: Ed Arzouian
To: rlandry@corporate.canwest.com ; rlandry@canwest.com ; aallnutt@thegazette.canwest.com ; bkappler@thegazette.canwest.com
Cc: peeinin nepean ; smontgomery@thegazette.canwest.com ; Janet Bagnall ; phadekel@videotron.ca
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 4:07 PM
Subject: Can you identfiy this person?



Dear Messrs. Landry, Allnutt and Phillips,

One of your employees either current or former as indicated here,

"I'm the only one listening, and only for a short while, and only because you really bugged some people I worked with and respect and continue to post all sorts of trash about them."

and

" Canwest didn't manage to get you convincted (sic) of your charges was
because the reporters told the director of security that they couldn't be bothered
to testify. That's what they told Landry, but the real reason was that all
the people they were going to get to testify were shitting bricks at the
idea of showing up in court to face you because they were convinced you'd one
day bust a screw and show up at their house, shotgun in hand. They were probably
right too. I was in the newsroom talking about it with them at the time"


has decided to harass me simply for the sake of doing so, as they have acknowledged below.

"You're completely right, I am harassing you anonymously for spite. "

I'm assuming if they are doing this from a Canwest computer you can find out.

I would suggest you do so. Of course, given your history of double standards and lack of fair play, I doubt you will.

If the harassment continues ad nausem or gets worse, I will be contacting the police myself. As you know and as I stated to the person below they will be able to trace IP addresses and find them if they decide to do so.

I have sent along the whole exchange. To follow it might be easier to read form the bottom up. This person first posted stuff slandering and libelling me on www.pedalmag.com web forum and then followed me from there to www.cyclingforums.com. When I pointed out there that posting to my threads on these forums shows they are reading them all, the person began emailing me directly at home. Obviously they have a real problem.

If they are still an employee of yours you may want to find out.

Sincerely,
Ed Arzouian


posted on Media in Montreal


----- Original Message ----- From: Ed Arzouian
To: peeinin nepean
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: Loser!



Police can easily get a username from Hotmail when the choose.

I will post whatever I like wherever and there is nothing, absolutely nothing, you can do about it. Boy, that must really bug you, huh, my little nutcase!

Furthermore, since you have confirmed you worked for Canwest or The Gazette, I will be sending this to Landry at Canwest and Allnutt and Phillips at The Gazette. If you are using their computers they will know. They can tract my incoming mail.

Maybe they will choose to nothing but I don't really care.

As I have said before, you are powerless to do anything.

Furthermore you must hide.

I'm glad I do not have to feel at impotent and frustrated as that.

I get to stroke my extremely large ego each time I send an email or post something on a forum anywhere.

You get nothing.

Keep them coming, little nowhere person!

I hope you are reading all my stuff on Yahoo Group Media in Montreal. I'm having lots of fun at the expense of your colleagues there too. The beauty of that is that many more people including employees of The Gazette read that.

You wrote, "I'm the only one listening, and only for a short while,
and only because you really bugged some people I worked with and respect and
continue to post all sorts of trash about them."


Only for a short while???? What a shame. Why will you stop? Certainly I won't. That should be evident by now.

Bye coward.....


----- Original Message -----
From: peeinin nepean
To: ed@arzouian.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: Loser!


You're completely right, I am harassing you anonymously for spite. As far as
posting these e-mails online or not, your double-standard is remarkable for
someone who always accuses others of spinning. My e-mails that make you look
persecuted are good to post publicly, but the ones that expose you for the
jerk you are don't get posted?

And the reason I took it offline is because you insist on saying that every
reply to your assinine postings is a win, that it proves people are
listening. Wrong, I'm the only one listening, and only for a short while,
and only because you really bugged some people I worked with and respect and
continue to post all sorts of trash about them.

At some point you will make a harassment claim and I'll be exposed? How?
You'll get your friends at Microsoft to give you my IP? Maybe Bill Gates
himself. Sure.

This has nothing to do with cycling. Then again, the people I know who are
informed tell me that neither do you.

Cheers!



>From: "ed@arzouian.com" <ed@arzouian.com>
>To: <peeininnepean@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: Loser!
>Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 10:31:09 -0400
>
>You are making things up.
>
>I never said I was acquitted. In fact I said the charges never made it to
>court to be judged so I
>could not be acquitted nor found guilty since the charges were NEVER
>pursued.
>
>Also, I wrote, "I will be posting this exchange, Dimwit."
>I never said I would be posting all emails. Do you have trouble with
>reading comprehension? I
>didn't know you were going to obessed and carry on for days. Nobody cares
>about this but you.
>
>You must be a journalist at The Gazette. You lack balls, according to you
>own comment below. Is
>that you Sue or Janet?
>
>
>What does all this have to do with cycling?
>
>It is ancient history, more than three years old. Who cares?
>
>You are obesessing over me. I doubt you have any link to cycling at all.
>You are probably just
>harassing me anonmously for spite.
>
>Crawl back under your anonymous rock.
>
>You are nameless and powerless to do anything. I must be very frustrating
>for you. Even you
>figured out you looked ridiculus following me over from Pedal to Cycling
>Forums and have taken this
>offline.
>
>Keep sending your harassment. At some point I will make a harassment claim
>myself about you and
>your identity will be exposed then won't you look foolish!
>
>Since you seem to be into urine, PeeininNepean, go piss off some place....
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: peeinin nepean
>To: ed@arzouian.com
>Sent: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:11:50 +0000
>Subject: Re: Loser!
>
>Meanwhile, this doesn't get posted to the cycling forums, does it? LOL.
>
>Why am I a coward? I should reveal my identity so you can harrass me, or
>better yet pull out your nightclub guy abilities and we could duke it out
>"man to man?" Except I'm not a man (hint hint!), but that probably wouldn't
>stop you.
>
>Spinning? You're the one spinning. "I was acquitted of all charges."
>"Police
>harrassment." Right. Since when is a dropped charge and a no-contact order
>an acquittal. You make it sound like the judge apologized to you for your
>trouble. Instead, he imposed a no-contact order, which you violated anyway
>because you're a chronic. And when the contact order was lifted you started
>spamming again, so we had to get Landry to tell you to shut up or else. It
>got quiet after that: another example of your tremendous courage,
>Braveheart?
>
>And I'm the coward? You said you'd post all e-mails to the cycling forums
>website! Liar!
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Ed Arzouian" <ed@arzouian.com>
> >To: "peeinin nepean" <peeininnepean@hotmail.com>
> >Subject: Re: Loser!
> >Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 00:06:30 -0400
> >
> >Spin it any way you like.
> >
> >I'm sure Hadekel wanted to testify he showed in court for every
>appearance
> >even when he didn't need to. He hid in the back.
> >
> >You are a coward.
> >
> >Try to learn some blander control.
> >
> >What is like having to hide?
> >
> >Frankly, you are the one acting like a nutcase.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: peeinin nepean
> > To: ed@arzouian.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 7:04 PM
> > Subject: Re: Loser!
> >
> >
> > Great! You're back to replying to yourself in your own threads. You
>are
> >such
> > a moron.
> >
> > You're all into free speech, etc., how about if I say that the only
> >reason
> > Canwest didn't manage to get you convincted of your charges was
>because
> >the
> > reporters told the director of security that they couldn't be bothered
> >to
> > testify. That's what they told Landry, but the real reason was that
>all
> >the
> > people they were going to get to testify were shitting bricks at the
> >idea of
> > showing up in court to face you because they were convinced you'd one
> >day
> > bust a screw and show up at their house, shotgun in hand. They were
> >probably
> > right too. I was in the newsroom talking about it with them at the
>time:
> > they were all terrified because you're such a nutcase.
> >
> > You plan to post that into the cyclingforums too? You're so freaking
> >starved
> > for self-publicity you probably will.
> >
> > peein myself laughin
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Ed Arzouian" <ed@arzouian.com>
> > >To: "peeinin nepean" <peeininnepean@hotmail.com>
> > >Subject: Re: Loser!
> > >Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:50:52 -0400
> > >
> > >Yes, certainly with a username as you have chosen, you would be a
>good
> > >judge of that!
> > >
> > >I'm certainly you know all about losing....
> > >
> > >Who went through all the trouble of creating a Hotmail address to
>hide
> >his
> > >real name and email me off-line to avoid continuing the thread?
> > >
> > >I hope it was worth it.
> > >
> > >Yup, there is something sad about it all. I agree.....
> > >I will be posting this exchange, Dimwit.
> > >
> > >See ya!
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: peeinin nepean
> > > To: ed@arzouian.com
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 6:03 PM
> > > Subject: Loser!
> > >
> > >
> > > Man u are such a loser! Sad!
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What does this have to do with cycling? You are a bit scary...I won't be responding to your posts anymore. Maybe none of us should.

That's a very good question.

What does somebody else coming on here and saying I'm idiotic have to do with cycling? Did Peeinneapean (very nice username BTW) offer any type of explanation or reason for his/her claim? No, he/she did not, it was simply a gratuitious personal attack towards me.

Answer me that?

What idiotic about getting our National Criterium Championship back?

You think I'm the scary one when somebody else admits they are coming on here, following me from one cycling forum to another and emailing me at home simply out of spite to harass ME?

You want to ban somebody, ban somebody doing that, instead of banning somebody with very valid but unpopular opinions

Don't respond to my posts, I really do not care. You have nothing vlaid to add anyway.
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What does this have to do with cycling? You are a bit scary...I won't be responding to your posts anymore. Maybe none of us should.

That is very correct - move over to one of the forums where Ed is banned if you want to chat cycling - Pedal if you're more serious, canadian cyclist if you're not.
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That is very correct - move over to one of the forums where Ed is banned if you want to chat cycling - Pedal if you're more serious, canadian cyclist if you're not.

Keep in mind this nut job left Canadian Cyclist and then Pedal to follow me here simply to harass me and he/she admits it.

Ask them what they know about cycling??

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Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: Loser!


"You're completely right, I am harassing you anonymously for spite. As far as posting these e-mails online or not, your double-standard is remarkable for someone who always accuses others of spinning. My e-mails that make you look persecuted are good to post publicly, but the ones that expose you for the jerk you are don't get posted?

This has nothing to do with cycling. Then again, the people I know who are
informed tell me that neither do you."
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Thanks Peeinapean, I will do just that. I know this is a he said/she said thing between you two but definitely you have convinced me of who is a bit less scary! Cheers and good riding!




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Keep in mind this nut job left Canadian Cyclist and then Pedal to follow me here simply to harass me and he/she admits it.

Ask them what they know about cycling??

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To: ed@arzouian.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: Loser!


"You're completely right, I am harassing you anonymously for spite. As far as posting these e-mails online or not, your double-standard is remarkable for someone who always accuses others of spinning. My e-mails that make you look persecuted are good to post publicly, but the ones that expose you for the jerk you are don't get posted?

This has nothing to do with cycling. Then again, the people I know who are
informed tell me that neither do you."
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