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Old 01-12.-2005, 10:38 AM   #1
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Default Good Riddance Bill Kinash!

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Subject: Congratulations to Pierre Blanchard, New CCA President

Last weekend in Yukon, Pierre Blanchard of Quebec was elected the new Canadian Cycling Assocation President.

Pierre is medical doctor and international race commissiaire. He was the past President of the Federation Quebecoise des Sports Cyclistes (FQSC).

I have known Pierre for about 20 years or so. He was always very fair as a Race Commmissaire and a good President of the Quebec Federation.

As for Bill Kinash, outgoing CCA President, good riddance. He should have been impeached 2 years ago. He set the sport in Canada back about 5 years. His entire term was a waste of time and money. The people he has hired, Steve Lacelle and Kim Sebrango, like him, have ZERO practical experience in cycling. The CCA would be well-advised to rid themselves of those people at they earliest opportunity to avoid being saddled with them for years.

Back to Saskatchewan for Kinash, the worst cycling province in the country thanks to him.

Kinashes to Kinashes, dust to dust.......Amen.

And Bill, on personal note, I told you I would not rest until you were gone. Let's hope you never leave Regina again.

Hutsebaut is gone. Brian Jolly is gone. Kinash is now out. I'm batting three for three......

All good things to come to he that waits.
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Sent: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 20:50:37 -0500
Subject: Benjamin Sadavoy: What a fool!

That Benjamin Sadavoy, of Pedal Magazine what a fool!

Since he banned me from his web site forum it has practically died. He gets about ONE POST A WEEK!

So I go back to post about Kinash being a failure as CCA President (the only one-term CCA President
in the history of the Association) and Sadavoy (along with Rob Jones of Canadian Cyclist) pull my
posts.

Who cares!

The post is up on www.cyclingforums.com

Jones and Sadavoy helped Kinash stick around far longer than he should have. He should have been
impeached for incompetence two years ago.

The three of them are responsible for the sport in Canada being in the toilet.

Don't believe me, read is own forum:

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Let's take a look at the bull Rob Jones of Canadian Cyclist is offering up, that Lister Farrar seems to believe:

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As Rob pointed out, Bill Kinash deserves credit for several things: leading the constitutional change, dealing with the staff issue, the Worlds were successful on his watch, and he lead the hiring of the new staff who have already dealt with some important issues.

1) Constitutional Change! - what a load of crap. Will that make anybody go any faster? Will that create one more event? Will that find one more sponsors? Of course not. A typical bullshite response from paper-pushing bureaucrats embedded so deep in the system causing the problems they cannot even see a solution, never mind implementing it. What a typically Canadian response.

2) Staff issues like getting rid of Pierre A. Hutsebaut. A completely botched dismissal that took more than a year and who knows how much of a settlement from the CCA to Huts to avoid a law suit. Total failure by Kinash to handle the thing properly. Important positions were left vacant for more than a year at crucial times.

3) The 2003 Worlds,the biggest waste of $15 million in sport history. They came and went without almost a whimper. Let's count the sponsors or events generated from that $15 million: ZERO. A friggin' disgrace.

4) What did Kinash do with Lori Ann Meunzer's Olympic Gold medal? NOTHING! The idiot even went out of his way in a national interview to Canadian Press saying he had no plan to market the medal. How stupid can you be?

5)And what have Pedal Magazine and Canadina Cyclist Magazine done? They have done nothing but paint a rosy pciture while the sport of cycling circles the bowel on its way down the drain.
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Here is an attempt a a discussion on Pedalmag.com forum that will no doubt be pulled by Benjy the Shabby Editor there in his rose-colored glasses.


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Anonymous wrote:What are you talking about? Westwood, Stewart, O'Donnell, Berube and all CCA Board members have cycling experience and knowledge. And CEO Lacelle has a year under his belt now.

This organization is moving forward not back... look what's happened in this past year. Kinash did a fabulous job overall bringing the CCA ahead thru difficult times and plenty of mess which he inherited - I agree he should have been given another mandate.

Lacelle has about nine months of experience while his counterparts in other countries have about 20 years.

Stewart, O'Donnel and Westwood were at the CCA long before Kinash ever showed up.

Did Kinash find one new sponsor in three year, even given the $15 milllion investment in 2003? No.

Was one new event created in three years? No. Events were lost.

Did Canada rise in the world rankings? No. It fell.

Did Canada win more international events? No. It has done constitently worse.

Did we see one new team created in three years? No. We lost a couple teams.

Fabulous job????? He was a three-year disaster

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300 views, nobody for, nobody against. remarkable....



thx for reading.



BTW, I called Bill to gloat a bit and he felt compelled to lie. He tried to say Brett Stewart wanted to pursue my contract dispute in court instead of settling. I find that very hard to believe since Brett and I had chatted on a number of occasions privately during that period and I never got that feeling. No, it was first Huts and then Kinash, probably Jolly, too, but Kinash tries to blame Stewart. Typical spineless behavior.



Maybe Brett can point that out now....?

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As if we needed anymore proof to the incompetence of Bill Kinash, former CCA president, here's what he said in an interview to Rob Jones of Canadian Cyclist today.

"CC - So, you sound pretty optimistic.

BK - We are working towards what I believe will be a world class cycling organization by 2012. "




2012!!!



Can you believe the guy? Another seven years, talk about ineptitude. You can turn General Motors or Delta Airlines around in less time than that.



The CCA has about 15 employees total! Ten provinces, some of which do almost nothing ,and he needs another seven years to get things in order.



Thank God this guy is gone.



Pierre Blanchard will be a fine President. At least he realizes there are problems,



"The Canadian Tire series was when I started to be involved (cycling) - it was fantastic, and certainly something we need to work towards again. In mountain bike we have a national series, but no title sponsor. Communication is a key requirement - cycling is very popular, but we don't hear much on the TV, in the newspapers. We have to invest in marketing and communications.

I'm not sure we have the solution right now; we have to talk, consult. But the CCA needs to believe in the provinces - that is where development comes from. We are relying too much on a few (top athletes); I am very scared that after they leave (retire) that there are not too many coming behind right now. Development is the place to put a lot of emphasis. When Alison (Sydor) is gone, when Lyne (Bessette) is gone ... I'm very scared."




I'm very scared, too, Pierre.....
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