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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Eastwood, Sydney, Australia
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I would love to upgrade to a full carbon framed beast but don't want to spend a bomb
I love the ride characteristics of carbon combined with its lightness and bling factor Wonder what ppl think is best value for around $3K I am a fan of the OCR composite but seems there is quite a bit of competition against Giant these days
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Rob www.bikenorth.org.au '07 Giant OCR Composite 3 - R550s with Michi Prorace2 '06 Giant CRX1 '96 Apollo Himalaya commuter - Rigid Fork, slicks, fully racked DMR Switchback Reynolds 520- Velocity Cliffhangers, SRAM X-9, Easton bar/stem DMR Trailstar 2 4130- Mavic117, Dice Whiplash, SCUD DH bars, LX 9spd, DMR Crisis Cranks. '04 Giant VT3 frame - SOLD |
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Some choices...
Alchemy Carbon 105 $3K, WH565rims... don't know much about this brand Avanti Carbonio $2.5K, 105, R500rims Azzuri Primo Carbon $3K, Ultegra, R500rims... is this a Learsport? Felt F5C $2.5, 105/Gossamer/Ultegra, Alex rims Giant OCR Composite $3K, Ultegra/Rouler, R500rims Orbea Vitesse Onix $3.5K, 105, R500 Specialized Robauix Elite $3K, 105/Ultegra/Gossamer, Mavic Open Pro Does anyone know why some other similarly specced Carbon bikes are so much more exxy? Is there a difference between the different grades of Carbon Fibre?
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Rob www.bikenorth.org.au '07 Giant OCR Composite 3 - R550s with Michi Prorace2 '06 Giant CRX1 '96 Apollo Himalaya commuter - Rigid Fork, slicks, fully racked DMR Switchback Reynolds 520- Velocity Cliffhangers, SRAM X-9, Easton bar/stem DMR Trailstar 2 4130- Mavic117, Dice Whiplash, SCUD DH bars, LX 9spd, DMR Crisis Cranks. '04 Giant VT3 frame - SOLD |
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Join Date: Dec 2005
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I too am looking at similar bike. Have yo made a decision yet. Looking at Giant TCR1, Gitane Mach 2300 and Avanti Cabonio and get more confused the more I look.
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ditto, anyone got a carbonio?
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Rob www.bikenorth.org.au '07 Giant OCR Composite 3 - R550s with Michi Prorace2 '06 Giant CRX1 '96 Apollo Himalaya commuter - Rigid Fork, slicks, fully racked DMR Switchback Reynolds 520- Velocity Cliffhangers, SRAM X-9, Easton bar/stem DMR Trailstar 2 4130- Mavic117, Dice Whiplash, SCUD DH bars, LX 9spd, DMR Crisis Cranks. '04 Giant VT3 frame - SOLD |
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come on, someone must own these bikes,
give us a review why did you choose it over others? seems that the only bikes at the 2.5K price point is the Felt and Avanti more info on the felt http://www.feltbicycles.com/felt2006/03ROAD/f5c.php ![]() Frame: Felt Full Carbon Monostay with forged dropouts and replaceable derailleur hangerFork: Felt 1 1/8" Carbon Headset: Integrated AheadsetRear Derailleur: Shimano Ultegra 20 speedFront Derailleur: Shimano Ultegra Shifters/Brake levers: Shimano Ultegra Brakes: nnCrankset: FSA Gossamer - MegaExo - Aluminum, with CNC machined chainrings, double 50/34TCassette: Shimano 10 speed, 11-23TWheelset: Alex 270 Tires: Vittoria HSD, 700x23cStem: Felt ST-23 6061Aluminium Handlebar: Ergonomic Felt Carbon/ 6061 Aluminium, OversizedSaddle: Felt Racing Lite Seatpost: Felt Carbon Size:48cm, 50cm, 52cm, 54cm, 56cm, 58cm, 60cm, 62cm Weight:18.4lbs (8,34kg)
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Rob www.bikenorth.org.au '07 Giant OCR Composite 3 - R550s with Michi Prorace2 '06 Giant CRX1 '96 Apollo Himalaya commuter - Rigid Fork, slicks, fully racked DMR Switchback Reynolds 520- Velocity Cliffhangers, SRAM X-9, Easton bar/stem DMR Trailstar 2 4130- Mavic117, Dice Whiplash, SCUD DH bars, LX 9spd, DMR Crisis Cranks. '04 Giant VT3 frame - SOLD |
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Carbonio ![]() ![]() ![]() Other Related Bikes Vivace San Remo Pro Giro The Carbonio 18 is an affordable full carbon bike that offers riders all the benefits of carbon technology including it being a light weight bike that helps reduce rider fatigue.
Silver Chrome Size Options-38cm,M-42cm,L-46cm,XL-50cm,XXL-54cm Frame Avanti Carbon FrameForkCarbonio - Carbon Fibre with 1-1/8" Alloy SteererBrake Levers Shimano 105Brakes Shimano 105Shifters Shimano 105 18spdFront Derail Shimano 105Rear Derail Shimano 105CranksetShimano 105, 39-53Bottom Bracket Shimano 105 BB-5500
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Rob www.bikenorth.org.au '07 Giant OCR Composite 3 - R550s with Michi Prorace2 '06 Giant CRX1 '96 Apollo Himalaya commuter - Rigid Fork, slicks, fully racked DMR Switchback Reynolds 520- Velocity Cliffhangers, SRAM X-9, Easton bar/stem DMR Trailstar 2 4130- Mavic117, Dice Whiplash, SCUD DH bars, LX 9spd, DMR Crisis Cranks. '04 Giant VT3 frame - SOLD |
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seems the felt is better value than the avanti
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Rob www.bikenorth.org.au '07 Giant OCR Composite 3 - R550s with Michi Prorace2 '06 Giant CRX1 '96 Apollo Himalaya commuter - Rigid Fork, slicks, fully racked DMR Switchback Reynolds 520- Velocity Cliffhangers, SRAM X-9, Easton bar/stem DMR Trailstar 2 4130- Mavic117, Dice Whiplash, SCUD DH bars, LX 9spd, DMR Crisis Cranks. '04 Giant VT3 frame - SOLD |
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Melbourne
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I can offer my 2 cents on Giant TCR1 Composite (2004):
I'm riding a 2nd hand one, and it's about 3-4 kg lighter than my aluminium Avanti Giro. got if for under $2300, no pedals. I did a fair bit of research on the Giant TCR and relied mostly on RIDE magazine's review of it about a year+ ago. My usage: - long rides (4-6 hours): fine. smooth. Get your fave saddle on the carbon seatpost and you can ride all day long. - hill rides: this thing likes going uphill (um, and so do i). Standard 52/39 12-27 setup might need to be changed though. - crit racing: im still rookie, but it accelerates well enough Pro's: - wheels. Mavic ksyrium. love em. Light, bladed spokes, reliable. As good as the Ksyrium SL's, I've heard. - frame. the back wheel is very close to the seat tube (the one going down?), there's a little cut-out so that the wheel can fit into that tight spot. This supposedly makes it more responsive?? - light. I'm guessing around 8kg? Goes up hills nicely. - Shimano ultegra. Can't fault it. Good as Dura Ace except you pay more for DA being lighter. - carbon seatpost supposedly has a good tightening design-- an anti-overtightening system so you won't crack the seatpost by overtightening. As this is my first carbon bike, i can't compare it to other carbon products out there. - cranks. FSA carbon cranks. Light, stiff, in my opinion better than Dura Ace cranks. - small hole in bottom of frame-- lets water drain out of frame if it happens to get in during cycling in the rain or washing. Cons - i think Giant put 175mm cranks on EVERY size bike. Mine is a small, and i got 175mm cranks which were terrible for my knees. - saddle. I didn't get the stock saddle with my second-hand purchase, but a majority of reviews hated the selle italia cutout saddle - funny noises at speed? I read reviews which claimed that the bike wobbles/vibrates and makes a sound at 80kmh+. I've never gone faster than 70kmh, but recently there's been a loud hum/whirring but i think it's not the frame but loose casette/freehub (... my other post) all in all, great bike. Top value for money. Reliable, middle to higher end components. Because Giant have great buying power from component sellers, they can afford to sell bikes a bit cheaper than an equivalent from another brand. As long as you don't mind riding a 'common' Giant from Taiwan, i can't fault their TCR1 Comp. |
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This is what i've read: Giant carbon frames are lightweight yet stiff because they are a monocoque design. Ie, the frame is all one piece, so they don't manufacture it by gluing bits together. this keeps the weight down and the frame stiffer/stronger.
So for every frame size, Giant have a mould to make these monocoque frames. It's costly, but because they pump out bicycles in such high volume they can afford to do it. |
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To both of you
I can recommend a Giant EURO. Mavic wheels, campag centaur groupset etc. Was looking at TC1 but this was on sale for $2800 including pedals so bit the bullet and have never looked back. Have fun shopping, like other things, its quite often the chase that is half the fun. I will try to include picture here for you. |
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Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Brisbane, Australia
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i've been interested in a new carbon bike around that price point for some time now. i have come to the conclusion that to get full carbon around AU$3000 - 3500 you start to compromise other important components, like wheels and cranks/bb. many have ultegra shifters and gears but they have to compromise somewhere.
i'm now thinking alu with carbon fork/stays with better wheels etc is a good option. although would still love a good carbon frame....one day |
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Location: Melbourne
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Nice bike! and great deal. Did you get it brand new?
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Yes i did. It was right on my budget if not a tight squeeze.
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Crown city
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Web specials
http://www.lawrenciacycles.com.au/6.html Giant TCR Comp 2 (2005)
Now at the Special Price of $2590 |
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Location: Sydney, Australia
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Those wheels don't match that bike! |
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