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Old 08-07.-2006, 05:21 AM   #1
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Some time ago I received a bollicking from certain people that said I was wrong about wanted the helmets to be optional. I maintained then and now they look bloody stupid, ruin the tradition of the race and have little practical good.

i checked to see the death count on "Le Tour ". of about 5 deaths three were cyclists. No cyclist died on the friggin road. They were drug abusers except one poor bastard in 1936 or something that went off a ravine! one journalist and a motocyclist have died. My figures are open to correction.

So, I make no apology for wanting to make helmets optional. No one gets killed via head injuries during a race. I say get rid of helmets in races. Some bloke broke his teeth the other day. So his helmet did nothing. Some bloke brakes his arm, or does a ligament. What good a helmet ?

OK, I understand having Jan Ulrich riding over your head after you go down is unpleasant, but hardly life threatening.

They rode without helmets for the vast majority of the life of the race. there have been no deaths due to not wearing a helmet, unless they were in a drug induced state and bounced their head against the hotel wall without a helmet!

Helmets on a public street...sure. But in a safe envioronment like a race no!

Can I buy an arguement here. BTW In case you don't know, the race looks great in"google earth"
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Old 08-07.-2006, 05:50 AM   #2
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Some time ago I received a bollicking from certain people that said I was wrong about wanted the helmets to be optional. I maintained then and now they look bloody stupid, ruin the tradition of the race and have little practical good.

i checked to see the death count on "Le Tour ". of about 5 deaths three were cyclists. No cyclist died on the friggin road. They were drug abusers except one poor bastard in 1936 or something that went off a ravine! one journalist and a motocyclist have died. My figures are open to correction.

So, I make no apology for wanting to make helmets optional. No one gets killed via head injuries during a race. I say get rid of helmets in races. Some bloke broke his teeth the other day. So his helmet did nothing. Some bloke brakes his arm, or does a ligament. What good a helmet ?

OK, I understand having Jan Ulrich riding over your head after you go down is unpleasant, but hardly life threatening.

They rode without helmets for the vast majority of the life of the race. there have been no deaths due to not wearing a helmet, unless they were in a drug induced state and bounced their head against the hotel wall without a helmet!

Helmets on a public street...sure. But in a safe envioronment like a race no!

Can I buy an arguement here. BTW In case you don't know, the race looks great in"google earth"

I do miss seeing the riders in "caps" or "hats", but times change. I think it is probably a good idea to have helmets due to crashes in the peloton and such large pile-ups.

Could you provide a link to the google site you mentioned?
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Old 08-07.-2006, 06:09 AM   #3
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So, I make no apology for wanting to make helmets optional. No one gets killed via head injuries during a race. I say get rid of helmets in races. Some bloke broke his teeth the other day. So his helmet did nothing. Some bloke brakes his arm, or does a ligament. What good a helmet ?
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Can I buy an arguement here.
I believe Saul Raisin (Credit Agricole) would be an historical figure right now if he hadn't been wearing a helmet when he crashed earlier this year.
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I don`t understand riders who don`t wear helmet. I never ride without it and I don`t feel that I have it on my had at all. It`s a lot more likely that you get a brain damage or even die if you fell without a helmet than with it. Most of riders train with hats in the winter and with helmets when it`s warm enough. I saw pictures from CSC training camp in the winter and surprisingly, about 5 riders wore a helmet (including Basso), which is quite a lot. I really find it very irresponsibly not wearing a helmet. Everyone has seen a disabled person at least once and I don`t know why they don`t learn something from that.

Not all helmets look stupid. Catlike helmets look really good. Phonak, Euskaltel and Agritubel have them..
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Some time ago I received a bollicking from certain people that said I was wrong about wanted the helmets to be optional. I maintained then and now they look bloody stupid, ruin the tradition of the race and have little practical good.

i checked to see the death count on "Le Tour ". of about 5 deaths three were cyclists. No cyclist died on the friggin road. They were drug abusers except one poor bastard in 1936 or something that went off a ravine! one journalist and a motocyclist have died. My figures are open to correction.

So, I make no apology for wanting to make helmets optional. No one gets killed via head injuries during a race. I say get rid of helmets in races. Some bloke broke his teeth the other day. So his helmet did nothing. Some bloke brakes his arm, or does a ligament. What good a helmet ?

OK, I understand having Jan Ulrich riding over your head after you go down is unpleasant, but hardly life threatening.

They rode without helmets for the vast majority of the life of the race. there have been no deaths due to not wearing a helmet, unless they were in a drug induced state and bounced their head against the hotel wall without a helmet!

Helmets on a public street...sure. But in a safe envioronment like a race no!

Can I buy an arguement here. BTW In case you don't know, the race looks great in"google earth"
This is a joke, yes? I know I'm new here, but tell me this is sarcasm or something...
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Old 08-07.-2006, 12:52 PM   #6
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This is a joke, yes? I know I'm new here, but tell me this is sarcasm or something...
Another vote here for sarcasm/joke.

I hope.
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Being dead looks stupid.
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I\m talking about a race only. I support wearing a helmet on a public street. That is where it's dangerous
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Dead in a bike race because of no helmet ! How! The records show differently!
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Another vote here for sarcasm/joke.

I hope.


No Frank, no martin. It's no joke. The records show no deaths through head injuries. i see no need for a helmet during a race
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I do miss seeing the riders in "caps" or "hats", but times change. I think it is probably a good idea to have helmets due to crashes in the peloton and such large pile-ups.

Could you provide a link to the google site you mentioned?

just type in "google earth" then tour de france!

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I do miss seeing the riders in "caps" or "hats", but times change. I think it is probably a good idea to have helmets due to crashes in the peloton and such large pile-ups.

Could you provide a link to the google site you mentioned?


try this http://www.gearthblog.com/blog/arch..._de_france.html
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Old 08-07.-2006, 01:45 PM   #13
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I do miss seeing the riders in "caps" or "hats", but times change. I think it is probably a good idea to have helmets due to crashes in the peloton and such large pile-ups.

Could you provide a link to the google site you mentioned?


Exactly Doc, but remember times change, often for the worse becuase strong personalities make the change. All this helmet nonsense comes from insurance companies and not history.

In all the history of thetdF here is no death or serious injury from not wearing a helmet. Sure it's a matter of cuts and scratches and a sore head in a spill without a helmet sometimes but that's it. Helmets should be optional. They look like strange alien creatures with them on
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No Frank, no martin. It's no joke. The records show no deaths through head injuries. i see no need for a helmet during a race


I'm thinking not to many problems with cars,suv's,cellphones users,cats,dogs, foot traffic,ect,ect,ect that we deal with and they dont.
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No Frank, no martin. It's no joke. The records show no deaths through head injuries. i see no need for a helmet during a race

Perhaps Fabio Casartelli at the 1995 TdF rings a bell?
http://www.bhsi.org/timesart.htm
How about Andrei Kivilev at the 2003 Paris-Nice?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/oth...ing/2842707.stm
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