perpeteum

CHanson

The makers of Hammergel has now come out with Perpeteum. I have used this product and the only downfall is the amount of water you need to cosume to make this product effective. Like to know other opinions.

ric_stern/RST

How much water do you have to take with it? It doesn't appear to say.

As an aside i'm very worried by some of the claims made on the Hammergel site and with this product. There's definitely a stretching of the truth involved, and some rubbish.

For e.g., with perpeteum, which contains tribasic sodium phosphate. it says that it buffers lactate and extends endurance. Whilst, sodium phosphate has been shown to increase power output [1], there's not enough in the serving provided, and even if there was there's no evidence to show that acute phosphate loading works (it doesn't). The effects of a chronic load (e.g., four to five days) tends to work for ~ 10 days.

There's also snake oil on the site (e.g., ATP 100). Buyer beware.

[1]Stern, R. A., Folland, J., Brickley, G. (2001, A). Sodium phosphate loading can improve laboratory 10-mile cycling performance in trained cyclists. Canadian Journal of Physiology.

Ric

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CHanson

CHanson

Thanks for the reply and website. I drink about 24 ozs of water per hour while using this product sometimes more on hot days. Yet know matter how much I drink I still feel very thirsty at the end of the ride even though I think I am well hydrated. I guess I am a cyclist who will try anything that comes along that claims your performance will improve with this or that product. These days any new product has some kind of research at some kind of insititution so it is rather confusing which product really is good for you.