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Upgrades to entry level MTBs and Comfort Bikes

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Old 04-09.-2006, 12:05 PM   #1
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Default Upgrades to entry level MTBs and Comfort Bikes

From time to time I am asked to do minor component/performance upgrades on entry level bikes. I will add the details of each project here as they happen.

Today's example:
Giant Upland Ladies XS 14" http://www.giant-bicycles.com/au/03...007&model=10105
Fit Conti City Contact 26x1.5 Tyres and Presta Valve Tubes.
Swap Cassette to Sunrace 11-24 7 Speed.
Swap Crankset to 28/38/48 with 152mm Cranks.
Swap Pedals to alloy MTB and fit Strapless Toe Clips.
Swap Seatpost to Suspension Post with a reversable head.
Swap Stem to 90mm adjustable.
Cut bars to 540mm, fit Foam Grips and adjust lever reach.

The bike ends up lower, lighter and fitting a sub 5' lady rider very well and is considerably faster than the original at a fraction of the cost of a road bike.
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Old 05-09.-2006, 02:07 PM   #2
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From time to time I am asked to do minor component/performance upgrades on entry level bikes. I will add the details of each project here as they happen.

Today's example:
Giant Upland Ladies XS 14" http://www.giant-bicycles.com/au/03...007&model=10105
Fit Conti City Contact 26x1.5 Tyres and Presta Valve Tubes.
Swap Cassette to Sunrace 11-24 7 Speed.
Swap Crankset to 28/38/48 with 152mm Cranks.
Swap Pedals to alloy MTB and fit Strapless Toe Clips.
Swap Seatpost to Suspension Post with a reversable head.
Swap Stem to 90mm adjustable.
Cut bars to 540mm, fit Foam Grips and adjust lever reach.

The bike ends up lower, lighter and fitting a sub 5' lady rider very well and is considerably faster than the original at a fraction of the cost of a road bike.

that's awsome the you provide such a service

most bike shops couldn't care less
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Old 05-09.-2006, 06:51 PM   #3
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The bike is almost finished. 90mm off the bars!

Just waiting on the short Foam Grips and the Suspension Seat Post with the reversable head, should be in on Friday.

I will cut the steerer tube and trim the brake and gear cables after the Lady has test riden the bike.
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Old 05-09.-2006, 07:27 PM   #4
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What I find interesting is that doing a lot of these things is well within the abilities of the average bike owner, yet a lot of them don't seem to realise that you can make a few simple cheap alterations to your bike and considerably improve things.
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Old 05-09.-2006, 10:19 PM   #5
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Cutting the handlebars - Did you do it with just a plain old hacksaw, or is there a need for something more advanced?
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Old 06-09.-2006, 12:20 AM   #6
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What I find interesting is that doing a lot of these things is well within the abilities of the average bike owner, yet a lot of them don't seem to realise that you can make a few simple cheap alterations to your bike and considerably improve things.
Exactly! That's why I post the projects, I'm no one special.

Cutting handle bars, alloy or steel, I use a tube cutter I got from the hardware shop, a hacksaw makes too much mess.

The Lady owner came over and test rode the bike, all good, I will leave the steerer tube long for a few weeks but cut all the cables tomorrow.

She decided to fit a rack, but the bottle cage won't fit the 14" ladies frame in the usual spot, so we mounted two bottle cages on the vertical support tubes for the rack.
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Old 06-09.-2006, 10:01 AM   #7
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And it is a nice bike!
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Old 06-09.-2006, 12:30 PM   #8
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And it is a nice bike!
Time you updated your signature.
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Old 06-09.-2006, 09:36 PM   #9
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Today, brake and gear cables. My LBS had some DA outer gear casing, so the bike now has nice grey gear cables, cut the brake casings, no rubbing, a much cleaner look round the bars and nice smoothe runs.
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Since following George's forum posts and discussing his conversion work, I've been 'recommending' the concept of a 'affordable quality MTB' with road tyre conversion to other people, however the response has been mostly comments like:

"oh that won't work... only a road bike performs like a road bike"

"how can such a low cost setup compete with a 'proper' road bike?"

"don't you realise that a MTB with road tyres will never be as good as a road bike?"

I find the comments rather amusing actually. Some people think that a bike made for the dirt just can't perform on the street.

Thanks to George, I've now become a 'convert' of low-cost biking. A month ago, I had a $2000+ Bianchi race-bike on the shopping list, but not anymore... There's just as much fun to be had for ¼ of the price!

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Old 08-09.-2006, 01:09 AM   #11
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If all the scoffers could see me now! A modified Giant Upland for no more than $600 tops working with parts from the most expensive bike shop- obviously I couldn't have done it without George's expertise. His blood is worth bottling! As soon as I tried it ( I am still waiting on the grips and seatpost - borrowed one to try), I commented - "This feels like a road bike!"

What is more, I have been unable to buy a flat bar road bike in my size as I am only 5'. If I wanted to spend a little more in upgrades, I could get something quite comparable to my Felt and possibly better performance wise, as the Felt is only 8 speed.

I have been talking in depth with George all the way through this project, and I believe it is the way to go for the sake of my shoulders and neck also, as I am considering running the front nearly as high as Giant had supplied it. We have put in an adjustable stem anyway.

Thankyou for your words of encouragement! You have seen the possibilities of having fun for a reasonable price. This way when you decide you want to go past entry level bikes, you will have a thorough understanding of what you need in a bike and will not have wasted big bikkies along the way!
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From time to time I am asked to do minor component/performance upgrades on entry level bikes. I will add the details of each project here as they happen.
G'Day.

I'm brand new to the forums and to Biking. I guess after 30+ years without one I can say that with confidence.

I bought a Giant Elwood, less than 24 hours ago.with the idea of turning it into a serious tourer. I would appreciate some tips along the lines of the other Giant mod you describe. It's a Mens 19".

Suitable equipment advice would also be welcome. I have Topeak rear touring rack with their largest Tank Bag w/panniers and a good size Wedge Bag atm. Looking to add front rack, panniers etc., and perhaps a trailer.


The plan is to head into the West, either to Perth via Darwin then down through the Red Center or the same route in reverse, given about 18 months to prepare.

All advice is welcome. Tah

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Friday, at last, the remaining bits arrived today.

Seat Post, suspension type with the reversable head, managed to get the desired 480mm top tube length with the clamp rearward and the seat slid forward, I can get 440-460mm with the clamp mounted forward.

Fitted a stem spacer to the top of the steerer tube, the adjustable stem was lower than the original steel stem by 10mm.

All that's left now is the Soft Foam Grips, Jackie can choose them tomorrow when she picks up the bike. Black in two lengths and textures and Light Blue and Red. The Red will give the bike a more girly appearance, closer to pink by my eye. They all come with matching Coloured Plugs for the bar ends.

Thanks for all the nice comments. I will try to keep you all amused with my projects. I tried to E-mail ozylynx about his Elwood, but the Server knocked it back.

Back to Jackie's Felt now... fitting a gear position indicator to the rear STI Cable.
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I tried to E-mail ozylynx about his Elwood, but the Server knocked it back.
Hmmm. I don't know what could have happened. All looks fine here in config.

Thanks for the effort anyway mate. I'll make it all work somehow.

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I will try to keep you all amused with my projects.

Hey George, after you did the changes to the Upland project-bike, was the bike much lighter than in standard form?
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