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Old 08-09.-2006, 04:29 PM   #1
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Default Neuvation R28 Aero Wheel set

Just wondering anyone try this wheel set before?? Is it a good pick if i am on budget and couldn't afford those $800 or $1000 wheels???

Thanks guys.

Also any idea where can I source one in?
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Old 10-09.-2006, 07:15 PM   #2
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The guys here...

http://www.roadbikereview.com/mfr/n...75_2490crx.aspx

seem to like them.

Bicorp is the Aus distributor - http://www.bicorp.com.au

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Old 10-09.-2006, 08:05 PM   #3
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Old 11-09.-2006, 08:11 AM   #4
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thanks for all the replies!

managed to sources two set of the wheels in Sydney $395 each sets including fitting ...

hope this wheel set are as good as everyone boasting on the web!
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Old 11-09.-2006, 08:39 AM   #5
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managed to sources two set of the wheels in Sydney $395 each sets including fitting ...

Any chance of sharing that info to the general community
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Old 11-09.-2006, 09:06 AM   #6
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Any chance of sharing that info to the general community

Sure, actually it's not a secret at all, I just call all the dealers on the dealer list, and Australian Cycle Company on the Anzac Parade (Kensington NSW) is the cheapest one. $395 each set including fitting & gearing adjustment.

Normally the dealers are quoting me around $450 per set plus labour for the fitting. ($20 to $60 depending on which dealers, quite a big rip off on the labour) RRP for the wheelset is $499

It is a fairly new wheel set from the Aust importer as well, and they don't even have that information on their latest catalogs for their dealers, so most of the dealers (almost 70%) don't even know the existance of this wheel set.

I will try to write something like a review on the wheelset later on, ready to pick up I on Wed or Thu.

More information on the Australian Cycle Complany:
Phone 02 9663 3644
Add: 205 Anzac Parade, Kensington, NSW 2033

If anyone wanna get the wheelset there, feel free to quote my name, probably they will service my bike better later on with the extra business
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Old 11-09.-2006, 10:40 AM   #7
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These are readily available to all bike shops from BiCorp:
http://www.bicorp.com.au/productbro...px?category=PGP

My LBS has had them for some time.
http://ideal1984.blogspot.com/
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Old 15-09.-2006, 09:44 AM   #8
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Finally got the wheelset on yesterday after work.

Can't resist to go for a sprint with my friend even it is all dark out there.

The wheel quality is amazing! pretty much the same weight as Dura Ace wheel.

Very stiff for sprinting and light for acceleration.

I will try to post more review later on after I go for a few more rides.

So far my comment is this R28 Aero is a big bang for the buck!!!

Nothing even come close with that price tag and you definitely need to pay for at least $900+ for a wheelset with similar build on other brand.

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Old 16-09.-2006, 07:50 PM   #9
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Come on Piero, I'm still waiting for your review diary on this wheel. I'm interested to get a pair too.
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Old 17-09.-2006, 06:51 AM   #10
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Come on Piero, I'm still waiting for your review diary on this wheel. I'm interested to get a pair too.
OK here we come a brief report after a lazy week

I went for a test ride on Thursday night after I got the R28 Aero. I find that the characteristic of the wheel is:
- Stiff for sprinting
- Light for acceleration

I have a feeling the average speed is increased for 2km/h comparing to my old Shimano R500 wheels. R28 just blow the Shimano into dust, nothing even come close.


And I went for another "main test run" yesterday on the M7 cycle path, if you went there before, you will know that there are a few long climbs there. I am amazed and shocked by the performance of the wheel on climbs!!! I can only have around 15km/h on those climbs with the Shimano, but with the R28 I can have around 20+km/h on the climbs! I mean it! I don't think my ability can have such a big jump within a week. That's definitely the wheel.

And to test out the "aero factor" of the R28, I try to stop pedalling on the top of the climbs and just let the bike go downhill by itself. I am in the full aero tuck position. You have to prepare for a big surprise now I start go downhill from 20km/h but when I reach the bottom i am in 50+km/h!!!!! That's a record on that small downhill section WITHOUT any single pedalling was done. Also the wheel is so stable with the speed, I can leaning for all corners with any worries.

I can only have around 39km/h with Shimano on the same downhill section if I pedalling hard enough!!! To be honest, shame on the R500.


I will keep update here for some long term review later on. I will went for the cook river ride in this morning to test out the flat road performance on this wheel today.


So far, both myself and my friend (we get two set of R28) agree that R28 is the smartest part and money we've spend on the bike so far!!! remember it is just A$395 and definitely NO wheels come close to this performance around the same price tage, and the performance and weight is beating those $900+ wheelset without a doubt!
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OK here we come a brief report after a lazy week

I went for a test ride on Thursday night after I got the R28 Aero. I find that the characteristic of the wheel is:
- Stiff for sprinting
- Light for acceleration

I have a feeling the average speed is increased for 2km/h comparing to my old Shimano R500 wheels. R28 just blow the Shimano into dust, nothing even come close.


And I went for another "main test run" yesterday on the M7 cycle path, if you went there before, you will know that there are a few long climbs there. I am amazed and shocked by the performance of the wheel on climbs!!! I can only have around 15km/h on those climbs with the Shimano, but with the R28 I can have around 20+km/h on the climbs! I mean it! I don't think my ability can have such a big jump within a week. That's definitely the wheel.

And to test out the "aero factor" of the R28, I try to stop pedalling on the top of the climbs and just let the bike go downhill by itself. I am in the full aero tuck position. You have to prepare for a big surprise now I start go downhill from 20km/h but when I reach the bottom i am in 50+km/h!!!!! That's a record on that small downhill section WITHOUT any single pedalling was done. Also the wheel is so stable with the speed, I can leaning for all corners with any worries.

I can only have around 39km/h with Shimano on the same downhill section if I pedalling hard enough!!! To be honest, shame on the R500.


I will keep update here for some long term review later on. I will went for the cook river ride in this morning to test out the flat road performance on this wheel today.


So far, both myself and my friend (we get two set of R28) agree that R28 is the smartest part and money we've spend on the bike so far!!! remember it is just A$395 and definitely NO wheels come close to this performance around the same price tage, and the performance and weight is beating those $900+ wheelset without a doubt!

Ain't the placebo effect wonderful!
But ignore cynical me - enjoy your new wheels.
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Old 17-09.-2006, 08:22 PM   #12
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OK here we come a brief report after a lazy week

I went for a test ride on Thursday night after I got the R28 Aero. I find that the characteristic of the wheel is:
- Stiff for sprinting
- Light for acceleration

I have a feeling the average speed is increased for 2km/h comparing to my old Shimano R500 wheels. R28 just blow the Shimano into dust, nothing even come close.


And I went for another "main test run" yesterday on the M7 cycle path, if you went there before, you will know that there are a few long climbs there. I am amazed and shocked by the performance of the wheel on climbs!!! I can only have around 15km/h on those climbs with the Shimano, but with the R28 I can have around 20+km/h on the climbs! I mean it! I don't think my ability can have such a big jump within a week. That's definitely the wheel.

And to test out the "aero factor" of the R28, I try to stop pedalling on the top of the climbs and just let the bike go downhill by itself. I am in the full aero tuck position. You have to prepare for a big surprise now I start go downhill from 20km/h but when I reach the bottom i am in 50+km/h!!!!! That's a record on that small downhill section WITHOUT any single pedalling was done. Also the wheel is so stable with the speed, I can leaning for all corners with any worries.

I can only have around 39km/h with Shimano on the same downhill section if I pedalling hard enough!!! To be honest, shame on the R500.


I will keep update here for some long term review later on. I will went for the cook river ride in this morning to test out the flat road performance on this wheel today.


So far, both myself and my friend (we get two set of R28) agree that R28 is the smartest part and money we've spend on the bike so far!!! remember it is just A$395 and definitely NO wheels come close to this performance around the same price tage, and the performance and weight is beating those $900+ wheelset without a doubt!

Thanks for the full report piero... its great to see another have a win!
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Old 19-09.-2006, 09:03 AM   #13
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Thanks for the full report piero... its great to see another have a win!

It's alright, my pleasure Happy to let more people know about the good wheelset and more options rather than stick with the expensive brand name.

o, btw, did I mention the packaging of the wheelset when it is arrived?

It was well protected and nicely packed in a huge Neuvation box, coming with 4 spare spokes, but I doubt that I ever need to use the spares at all. Anyway it's a bonus and it tells how Neuvation taking care about their customer. The wheel is perfectly true when it first coming out of the box, not adjustment required at all.

I have a few communications with the owner John over Neuvation, quite impressed by his attitude towards customer service. Definitely one of the best customer service I’ve ever encountered with.
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Old 19-09.-2006, 09:21 AM   #14
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Just a reminder for the new kids out there: aerodynamic section rims (deeper than 38mm) will win you 12sec over a 40km course at time trial speeds of 40-50km/h. At lower speed, they win you less time. At less than 35km/h, they probably buy you no time at all. If they are shallower than 38mm, they have not been shown to buy you any time saving over standard rims.
Keep things in perspective before you rush out to put your stock cheapo wheels in the skip...
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Just a reminder for the new kids out there: aerodynamic section rims (deeper than 38mm) will win you 12sec over a 40km course at time trial speeds of 40-50km/h. At lower speed, they win you less time. At less than 35km/h, they probably buy you no time at all. If they are shallower than 38mm, they have not been shown to buy you any time saving over standard rims.
Keep things in perspective before you rush out to put your stock cheapo wheels in the skip...


Well, the wheel is around 28mm deep and it is not a aerodynamic wheel. So I never tried to compare the R28 with the Zipp deep aero wheel or BORA. I think I never mention it has the "zoom zoom" aero effect, right?

if are you talking about 40mm+, it's a totally different markets, if you can afford that, go ahead and of course you can go much faster with that. But is those wheels are practical for everyday training, sorry, but I have to leave a question mark there.

I mean it's a few more choices for people who can't afford a A$1000+ wheelset or for any tight s like me

If you haven't tried this R28, please stop comment that as a "cheapo" wheelset. Yes, or maybe you are right on the "cheapo" in the monetary term if you can afford those big price tag. But I paid less than $400, and under the same price range, it blow my shimano.

Don't forget the the take this into account in terms of a good wheel:
- stiffness
- weight
- spoke
- braking surface
- bearing

I don't see anything wrong on the R28 and it is outstanding when comparing with my old Shimano.

I am a HAPPY MAN with what I paid for and what I get.

Be open minded and give things a try before you try to put some bad comment over a good product. (as this wheelset is pretty new in Aust and even most of the dealers dont' even know it is available here at all)

Please don't take me wrongly as I don't wanna start a fight here. just sharing something good with people

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