Junior Running Out Of Time

Carrera

Seems like the electorate have woken up to the fact the Iraq War ain't working. It's a pity the U.S. didn't listen to the French and the Germans months ago when they were warned against the planned invasion.
The trouble is Bush would have lost votes from people who supported the war or maybe still do support the war but can see Bush doesn't really have much of a clue as to how to conduct a military campaign.
It was obvious from day one this was going to fail. The invasion literally left former members of the Iraqi army unemployed, penniless and discriminated against by the Kurds and Shia. Little wonder the insurgency grew and grew.
Still, this is basically hot air. The fact is people know the Iraq War is a quagmire with U.S. troops acting as policemen in a hostile country. Bush appears to be running out of time but at least it's good to see him being removed by democtratic process.

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wolfix

Bush has not been removed. And in 2008 we have another election. What swung the votes had to do far more with corruption and higher oil prices then the war itself.

In America we are having a culture war. Bill O'Reilly was right about this.
In this war we have several fractions
1.......We have the family values group that is typically right wing.
2.......We have the liberals who represent the gays, abortionists and the
"welfare to the crib" mindset.
3........Then we have Americans who just want the best for their family.
It was this group that wanted change.

Americans connected the high price of oil to the war. America got to see the danger of an total domination of a single party. And Bush represents oil. High gas prices are what bugs the average voter. We saw prices like never before, and then the news the oil companies had all time profits. That pissed off Americans.Myself included.
American people give a rats ass about the war in Iraq. They could care less that Saddam was torturing his own people. And Americans do not want their boys dying to give an Iraqi his freedom. Americans want oil, and cheap oil. Bush did not deliver and this hurt his co-party friends out in America. We might not have seen this sweep if Bush made the Rumsfield change before today.

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Carrera

I write to a female friend in North Carolina. Seeing as we get on quite well, we seldom discuss politics. How she votes, I suppose, is her business and I wouldn't seek to impose my views. For the record, we disagreed over Iraq and the war situation.
One thing I can say, though, is what really upset her about Bush and clearly it really troubled her. This was the sight of thousands of Americans abandoned in Louisiana and her country seemingly humiliated by those images. I believe it hurt her pride a good deal and, I suppose, made her feel disgusted by Bush for being caught off guard.
What seems to trouble her is that particular episode as well as what she describes as reckless immigration from Mexico. So, she tells me she won't be voting either Republican or Democrat.

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Carrera

"2.......We have the liberals who represent the gays, abortionists and the
"welfare to the crib" mindset."

That's Madonna, bless her heart. She always hung around ethnic types, always performs in gay clubs and I imagine she's hardly anti-abortion.
To top it off, she just came out and stated she wants to see Hilary in the White House pronto!

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EoinC

Sounds like a capitalist system to me, Wolfix - Supply and demand? I wasn't aware that the Oil Companies were meant to return less to their shareholders than the profits they are capable of making.
If you want to reduce your fuel costs, don't use so much of it. As you may be aware, the USA motorist enjoys some of the lowest petroleum prices in the World.

wolfix

I agree totally. But my point was this ..... as Americans we saw the gas prices skyrocket. Then we read about record profits..... Bush is an oil man.....And many Americans thought he was behind this to pad his pockets...... Someone was going to pay for the high prices....... It was Bush or in this case, his sidekicks in the Republican Party.

But yes, we are gas guzzlers and pay low prices.

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bkaapcke

Bush doesn't have a clue about how to run a war because he 'cut' guard training. I'm waiting to see if Americans wake up to the fact that the real reason we went to war in Iraq is to 'get' Sadam Hussein. The most expensive "hit" the world has ever seen. bk

Wurm

I see wolfux hasn't given up on the Faux News crazies.

The "family values group that is typically right wing"? That's a joke. And still harping on the (non-existant) welfare Cadillac mothers, eh?



More GOP xenophobia, racism, homophobia, contempt for the poor, war-mongering, whacko financial policies, anti-worker sentiment, and everything else despicable that characterizes them.

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wolfix

I fully understand capitolism. It's my favorite concept. However, with the oil thing the part that pisses people off is the perception that Bush is using his influence and position to make things more favorable for the oil companies. And it was this perception that voters thought of as they entered the polls.
I'm all for less usage of oil. I use a motorcyle for 75% of my transportation. I "try" and use as little electricity as possibe in my place.

wurm........ I thought I had you on "blocked". Somehow your throat flem slipped through. Yes wurm, when we think of voter blocks in this country, it is the right wing who uses the "family value" agenda to gain voters. Pro-choice?????
wurm....... You are now being put back on "blocked."

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Wurm

Isn't technology wonderful?

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"Bush is the first President to admit to an impeachable offense."

- John Dean, former Counsel to the President (Nixon)

The aim of big corporations is to separate fools from their money all of the time and ordinary folks from their money most of the time. The rest of us must fend for ourselves.

wolfix

Your bad breath commentary slipped through to my e-mail provider again.....

But....I "ignore list"ed you first.....

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Wurm

As I have pointed out for the umpteenth time over the past year or so, wolfux is enjoying himself responding to someone who can't see his posts unless they're quoted by other posters.



I know most right-wingnuts are quite a hard-headed bunch, but it appears wolfux is trying to set a new standard for stupidity..

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"Bush is the first President to admit to an impeachable offense."

- John Dean, former Counsel to the President (Nixon)

The aim of big corporations is to separate fools from their money all of the time and ordinary folks from their money most of the time. The rest of us must fend for ourselves.