I think we're all a bit sick of Flyers.Finale!

Jack-o

Dear Mr. Finale,
I think you've made your point and are just starting to repeat yourself. Dragging up forum posts from three years ago is making you look a bit obsessive.

Please stop.

Regards,
Gary Jackson

Felt_Rider

All FF is doing is sophisticated trolling, but it really amounts to just being a troll and getting you guys stirred up.


Don't let him get to you.

jhuskey

He's not bothering me. I am calm and as sane as ever.

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Flyer's.Finale!

This is Gary's secret code for: censure out all Aussie track doping stories about eguine growth hormomes, spend syringes, medical waste, sharps bucket and Testicomp and fancy cover-ups.

Otherwsie---threads re: American drug cheating embarassment is welcomed.

Cover-ups are obsessive. The Aussies were very lucky to attend the 2004 Olypics Games.

Jack-o

FF,
I thought your point had been made (over and over), but now I'm confused. Are you here to point out the deficiencies in drug testing and to sprout your conspiracy theories, or are you here to attack anyone with an opinion that differs from yours?

If we knew who you were, and what it was that made you such an expert, then, and only then, would your rantings be worth paying attention to. As it stands, all I'm hearing is blah, blah, blah......

IF you are an expert on the subject, with evidence to back up your theories, why are you here on this forum? Why aren't you contacting every media outlet in the world (I'm sure they would even pay you for your story) and blow the drugs-in-sport scene wide open? (A retorical question, as it is obvious that your theories are just that and nothing more.)

Goodbye,
Gary.

Flyer's.Finale!

Hello Gary!

You still seem caught up in media mythology and themes.

What conspiracy? What theory?

Are you referring to how the Media (Time Warner, Disney, Viacom, Bretelsmann, NewsCorp and GE) collect $200 BILLION in advertsing fees each year and do EXACTLY what is in their and their clints interests? Doped and fixed sporting events.

That is called a capitalistic (monopolistic model) industry outcome.

You can be doped out of your mind--yet still be marketed as 'clean'.

WADA, IOC, UCI, NFL, USADA, MLB are all charades to enable the marketers.

http://www.sfgate.com/balco/ Only Tammy Thomas got busted--and she was Not a Balco steroid client---only a tHG Pat Arnbold friend.

lumpy

I'm tired of him beating everyone and seemingly every thread over the head with his doping rants.

Flyer's.Finale!

Hey lumpy:

How has that Lance Pharmstrong fan club been treating you?

All your heroes are confirmed drug cheats now:

Free Tyler Hamilton!
Free Floyd Landis!
Free Frankie Andreu!
Free Johan Mueeuw!
Free Tammy Thomas!

Live Wrong! Nike does.
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/51324

btw: insulin/glucose injections are a HUGE aid to endurance athletes too! You were 100% wrong about that hormone too!

lumpy

Could you back that up? I've never heard that and would like to see some evidence.

PS none of those guys are my heroes. The teachers in my local schools are my heroes.

Flyer's.Finale!

Back that up lumpy? How about your Easter Bunny fetish?

You mean like the contents of USPO medical waste discovered in July 2000?

Or in Raimundas Rumsus's wife's car truck? Or Dario Frigo's wife in 2005?

Or in the 2001 San Remo Hotel raids? Insulin in Pantani's bags? Insulin found with EPO, hGH, testsoterone in David Rebellin & Denis Zanetti's room?

Or in team Festina's Willy Voet bust. IGF-1 & hGH, EPO, testosterone too.

Yes even on my two 14 day tours in Italy, Swiss & France a few riders took their drugs after dinner (hGH, EPO and insulin-glucose). The French created their own organic insulin too. gave them that fresh feeling over night.

That is why Grand Tour racers use insulin to train and to race! Not just major League Baseball players (Barry Bonds, Jason Giambi, Gary Sheffield), Olympic sprinters (Marion Jones, Tim Montgomery, Regina Jacobs, Kelli White, Michelle Collins, Tori Edwards, CJ Hunter), or NFL weight trainers.

If you do not know about such medical trauma doping matters---quit pretending that you undertand track race doping too.

Insulin is ANABOLIC as hell--and wholly undetectable. That's why athletes use it. It works well!

lumpy

No Flyer, you don't understand. I want you to post some medical journal references showing how insulin benefits endurance athletes.

We know it benefits bodybuilders but I've never heard of it's use in endurance athletes. I'm not interested in what someone was caught with either.

Felt_Rider

Unfortunately FF (though I still believe his main mission here is to troll this forum) is correct that it can be abused among endurance athletes.
It is sometimes noted as hyperinsulinaemic clamp.

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Don Shipp

The original Flyer used to post other stuff about training and nutrition that was not specifically dope-related. If this Fly-boy's the same Fly-boy then perhaps he could do it again.

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Flyer's.Finale!

You amateur sports fans really ought to get out more.

re: Tauma medicine and daily peptide hormone treatments just ask:

Lance Armstrong
Tyler Hamilton
Floyd Landis
Richard Virenque
Johan Museeuw
Michele Ferrari
Dario Frigo
David Rebellin
Alex Zulle
Didier Ruox
Pascal Richard
Mario Gianetti
Manolo Saiz
Ivan Basso
Jan Ulrich
Barry Bonds
Jason Giambi
Marion Jones
Tim Montgomery
Regina Jacobs
Kellie White
Tori Edwards
Michelle Collins
Pat Arnold
Tammy Thomas
Amy Van Dyken
Bill Romanowski
Dana Stubblefield
Chris Cooper
Barrett Robbins

They all know about daily injections of undetectable hormones too.

http://www.ergogenics.org/donati.html

http://www.sfgate.com/balco/

http://www.bresagen.com