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Old 09-04.-2007, 03:50 AM   #1
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is it ok to hang my bike from one wheel like this?

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Old 09-04.-2007, 04:25 AM   #2
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is it ok to hang my bike from one wheel like this?

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Old 09-04.-2007, 09:43 AM   #3
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You have to be careful about leaving a bike like that too long or the wheel will slowly ovalize. The easy way to stop this to rotate the wheel a couple of inches every time you walk by.

My sister's brother's vetenarian's date left his bike like that all winter and in Spring it was unrideable. He had to have the LBS repoke the front wheel.
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Old 09-04.-2007, 10:20 AM   #4
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I have found that the best way to keep it from going out of round from hanging is to take it for a ride every day. think of the bike as a dog that needs to be walked.
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is it ok to hang my bike from one wheel like this?

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You have to be careful about leaving a bike like that too long or the wheel will slowly ovalize. The easy way to stop this to rotate the wheel a couple of inches every time you walk by.

My sister's brother's vetenarian's date left his bike like that all winter and in Spring it was unrideable. He had to have the LBS repoke the front wheel.


I think I need to see the evidence of this.
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Old 10-04.-2007, 03:18 AM   #7
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You have to be careful about leaving a bike like that too long or the wheel will slowly ovalize. The easy way to stop this to rotate the wheel a couple of inches every time you walk by.

My sister's brother's vetenarian's date left his bike like that all winter and in Spring it was unrideable. He had to have the LBS repoke the front wheel.
Maybe you shouldn't hang the bike from one wheel where you can't count on someone not doing chin-ups from it.
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I think I need to see the evidence of this.

I saw the wheel myself. It was more egg shaped than oval.

Rumor has it that Shimano Biopace rings were invented by an engineer named Saito Kandagawa, who stored his chainrings by hanging them on nails in a wall. After a couple of years they went oval but he did not notice when he attached them to his bike. Surprised by the increase in power and decrease in leg fatigue, he investigated further and a new product was born.
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...Rumor has it that Shimano Biopace rings were invented by an engineer named Saito Kandagawa, who stored his chainrings by hanging them on nails in a wall. After a couple of years they went oval but he did not notice when he attached them to his bike. Surprised by the increase in power and decrease in leg fatigue, he investigated further and a new product was born.
So his rings stretched enough to make a noticeable difference in eccentricity, enough that force requirements were different throughout the pedal stroke yet his bolt circle stayed round enough that he could actually mount the rings??? That and the very light weight chainrings were heavy enough to deform under just their hanging weight. That sounds very suspicious....
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So his rings stretched enough to make a noticeable difference in eccentricity, enough that force requirements were different throughout the pedal stroke yet his bolt circle stayed round enough that he could actually mount the rings??? That and the very light weight chainrings were heavy enough to deform under just their hanging weight. That sounds very suspicious....


Maybe not so much......mathematical historians say that Pythagoras discovered the ellipse after leaving a circle hanging from a nail in his garage for two years.
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So his rings stretched enough to make a noticeable difference in eccentricity, enough that force requirements were different throughout the pedal stroke yet his bolt circle stayed round enough that he could actually mount the rings??? That and the very light weight chainrings were heavy enough to deform under just their hanging weight.

These days the situation has gotten a lot better. Now we have more advanced alloys. Back in the day, it was more of a problem. You've probably heard of the deep Merckx bend for bars. That came about because Eddy was such a powerful rider the force of his pedalling would lift his torso a little, shifting his weight forward. After a season his normal Cinelli 64 bars would have a much deeper bend. Cinelli marketeers siezed the look and began promoting the Cinelli 66 bend, which allowed freds to have bars that looked just like Eddy's at the end of the season.
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... After a season his normal Cinelli 64 bars would have a much deeper bend. ...
I could buy that with a powerful rider putting a lot of force into his bars, but what you're describing with the chainrings is viscoelastic creep of an aluminum alloy with no external force. I've got track chainrings that have hung on pegs and nearly date back to Merckx that are as round today as they were in the early '80s when I bought them. And that still doesn't explain how his chainrings could get elliptical yet he could still mount them to his cranks.

Why do you suppose Eddie was pushing on his bars to create a deeper drop? I've sure pulled on mine enough times but can't think of any good reason to push down into the drops without an equal amount of pulling up on the other side of the stroke. Or do you suppose the early alloy bars deformed in one direction but not the other? I guess that's just part of being the Cannibal.......
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I think I need to see the evidence of this.

It would have been a pretty crapy wheel I'd say. But as a general statement, the warning is valid IMHO.
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Maybe not so much......mathematical historians say that Pythagoras discovered the ellipse after leaving a circle hanging from a nail in his garage for two years.

Authorative historian has it that it was 2 nails that did it.
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Maybe not so much......mathematical historians say that Pythagoras discovered the ellipse after leaving a circle hanging from a nail in his garage for two years.
Of course; and thus proving wrong his critics who believed that all of his thinking was degenerate.
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