Alternative turbo session

RidwarePhil

Hi All,

I have been using the following turbo session over the last few months.

15 min wu

5 min L3
5 min L4
5 min L5

(repeat x 3)

Warm down

What is this targetting? My ex coach didnt tell me?
Is it a sensible session for racing when combined with a seperate sprints session and road and recovery rides?

Would the following session do the same thing

15 min L3
15 min L4
15 min L5

or would this just be meaningless as the intensity of the 15min L5 would most likely be lower that 3 x L5 for 5 mins?

Any other sessions that would do a similar job that you can recommend??

Thanks Phil

daveryanwyoming

Well the first two (L3,L4) aren't targeting much of anything. If you string them together to make a 10 minute L3-L4 block then they'd marginally be targeting SST at the very short end of the useful duration. The L5 work is fine, but following the other two it's unlikely you can give it your best effort.

Personally I think it's good that that came from you exccoach. It's a muddled routine to follow day after day that doesn't really focus on anything and tries to do everything.

You're right that by definition you won't be able to do a 15 minute L5 block although you could do a few shorter say 3 to 4 minute efforts with equal rest in that block.

I'd strongly suggest rearranging your main training days to follow a decreasing intensity - increasing duration approach. Something like:

Day 1: L5 repeats, 3 to 5 minute efforts with equal rest shooting for 25 to 30 minutes in level. WU, CD, nothing else, total time ~1-1.5 hours

Day 2: L4 repeats, 15 to 25 minute efforts at ~95% FTP, WU, CD, 5 minutes between efforts, total time 1.5 to 2 hours

Day 3: L3 ride, 30 minutes to 1.5 hours in level steady effort or 30 + minute blocks. WU, CD, 2+ hours total

The idea is to hit your hardest effort early in the multiday block when you are well rested. The key is to keep the total duration short enough so you still have juice for the next day which is easier but longer. The block finishes with the most enjoyable and longest workout. Take a rest day before and after the block and either repeat for a sliding schedule or do a two day weekend block (L4, L3,L2+) to stay on a weekly calendar based schedule.

If your longest L4 and L3 efforts have been 5 minutes to date you'll probably need to work up to the longer repeats. But you really have to spend at least 10 minutes at those levels to get any training benefit so try to start your longer L3 and above efforts with at least 10 minute blocks. If that feels too tough then start with SST instead of pure L4 efforts by working at approximately 85% of FTP until that starts feeling easy for the longer repeats.

Good luck,
Dave

RidwarePhil

Dave Thanks for the reply - I should have mentioned that these are HR levels rather than power levels.

I dont know if that was clear from my mail or not.

Thanks for the info about training in blocks.

I an currently racing mainly crits so have been trying to bring in some speedwork as well as some active recovery work.

This is a typical sort of week - days / sessions move around but it basically comprises

Mon - L3, 4, 5 5 min intervals
Tue - Active recovery
Wed - Race
Thurs - Rest
Frid - sprints intervals
Sat - level 3 recovery
Sun - 3 hour road ride


How would you advise this is built into the block program.
Do you have links to other examples of block training?

Alex Simmons

Pacing L5 by heart rate is highly problematic, indeed near impossible to get right. L4 is also problematic but possible with experience (i.e. knowing the typical HR response for such an interval).

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