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Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Trenton, New Jersey
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How long does it take your Powertap to "fall" from whatever wattage you are putting out to 0 after you stop pedaling?
What about how long does it take your torque to do the same? Normally, after I stop pedaling, my Powertap will next read some lower wattage number (5-100W), then 0. Torque will read something low too (5-30) then zero. Although my torque also often just hits zero right away for the next reading. Here's where I start wondering though: sometimes my torque will read: 50-70 (whatever I'm riding at), then I stop pedaling and I see: low torque number (ie: 5-30), 1 (or 2), then 0. Likewise, my power will sometimes read 1W (or 2 or 3, something very low) before returning to zero. Does the fact that my torque/power sometimes settle on 1 or 2 before hitting zero mean that my torque was drifting? Is this normal and should just be expected (nothing to worry about)? I've checked my torque functioning and all and the auto-zero does work. But the CPU can't auto-zero while you're pedaling and after doing long extended threshold intervals, if the watts/torque are "falling" back to zero but settling at 1W/1 torque right before hitting zero watts/zero torque (ie: an extra second or two of positive W/torque data), does that mean my watts were off for that interval because of torque drift? Anything I can do about this? I always make sure my torque is zeroed at the start of the interval but you can't do anything while you are doing the interval of course... |
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Kansas City, USA
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Depends on the averaging interval that the display is set to (mine is set to 3 seconds and it takes a good 3-4 updates to get down to zero), and also when in the 1.26sec sampling window you stop pedalling.
I didn't read anything alarming in your description of the PM's response. Do you have reason to think that the torque/power readings may be drifting or incorrect? |
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Location: Trenton, New Jersey
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Join Date: Oct 2006
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You can also check your files when you get home. Make sure your power files show periods of zero torque or export the files into Excel and sort on the torque column to make sure your torque actually goes to zero during your ride. Remember, the display averaging only impacts what is displayed on the bike computer, not what is recorded in the file for later review. So if you have display averaging set to 5 seconds the response will be damped as you increase or decrease power(helpful for maintaining steady efforts like long intervals and time trials) but the recorded data isn't smoothed. -Dave |
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Sydney, Australia
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I put my answer on wattage forum....
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Trenton, New Jersey
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My CPU displays power over just 1 second. About 70% of the time, it
hits zero after two display updates - this goes for power and torque. The rest of the time, it will take at most three display updates. It usually hits some low power/torque number (like 1-5W or +1 torque) before then hitting zero. Is this "quick" enough or is there cause to worry? The other thing to mention is that this is how the data is displayed but when I look at it in raw numbers after downloading, for the most part, I see zeroes in torque and power when I'm coasting. Sometimes though, there are exceptions where there might a positive power reading with zero torque (at the beginning part of the coast or right at the end as power is applied again) but that is just for one data set - and correct me if I'm wrong, this is just because power and torque didn't record exactly simultaneously together (or something along those lines)? |
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Join Date: Oct 2006
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If you've validated periods of zero torque in the recorded file and the display regularly reaches zero within a few seconds then forget about it, it's not a problem. |
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