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10-09.-2003, 01:12 AM
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thru axle or QR? heads, tails, heads,.....
I'm getting an 04 SPV sherman firefly from Manitou. I can't decide between thru axle or QR. I know
this is pathetic, but I couldn't sleep last night thinking about this. There's no cost difference to me as it's a warranty thing. I do mostly XC riding, but I break everything. However, my riding buddies all have 24 lb XC rigs and get way too much enjoyment out of dragging me and my 38 lb pig up every hill they can find. I'm torn between saving the weight so I can run their skinny 24 lb butts over, and getting a bit more beef. Any opinions/recomendations/experiences on this? -Bruce |
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10-09.-2003, 01:30 AM
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Re: thru axle or QR? heads, tails, heads,.....
"bruce edge" <edgebruce@yahoo.com> wrote in message news
 an.2003.09.09.14.51.04.827880@yahoo.com...> I'm getting an 04 SPV sherman firefly from Manitou. I can't decide between thru axle or QR. I know > this is pathetic, but I couldn't sleep last night thinking about this. There's no cost difference > to me as it's a warranty thing. I do mostly XC riding, but I break everything. However, my riding > buddies all have 24 lb XC rigs and get way too much enjoyment out of dragging me and my 38 lb pig > up every hill they can find. I'm torn between saving the weight so I can run their skinny 24 lb > butts over, and getting a bit more beef. > > Any opinions/recomendations/experiences on this? > > -Bruce I run a thru-axle on my xc bike, no problems at all. How many times do you take your front wheel off? As for the extra weight?? I can't say I would notice it. Definitely recommed it. You may end up needing a new front hub, if you do you might consider getting one which can be switched to fit thru-axle and standard axle hubs such as the Hope Big 'Un or Hope Bulb. Steve. |
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10-09.-2003, 01:54 AM
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Re: thru axle or QR? heads, tails, heads,.....
"bruce edge" <edgebruce@yahoo.com> wrote in message news
an.2003.09.09.14.51.04.827880@yahoo.com...> I'm getting an 04 SPV sherman firefly from Manitou. I can't decide between thru axle or QR. I know > this is pathetic, but I couldn't sleep last night thinking about this. There's no cost difference > to me as it's a warranty thing. I do mostly XC riding, but I break everything. However, my riding > buddies all have 24 lb XC rigs and get way too much enjoyment out of dragging me and my 38 lb pig > up every hill they can find. I'm torn between saving the weight so I can run their skinny 24 lb > butts over, and getting a bit more beef. > > Any opinions/recomendations/experiences on this? > > -Bruce Depends on what you're going to be doing with the fork and the brakes and size of the rotor you will be using. - CA-G Can-Am Girls Kick Ass! |
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10-09.-2003, 01:55 AM
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Re: thru axle or QR? heads, tails, heads,.....
On Tue, 09 Sep 2003 11:10:59 -0400, Carla A-G wrote:
> "bruce edge" <edgebruce@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news an.2003.09.09.14.51.04.827880@yahoo.com...>> I'm getting an 04 SPV sherman firefly from Manitou. I can't decide between thru axle or QR. I >> know this is pathetic, but I couldn't sleep last night thinking about this. There's no cost >> difference to me as it's a warranty thing. I do mostly XC riding, but I break everything. >> However, my riding buddies all have 24 lb XC rigs and get way too much enjoyment out of dragging >> me and my 38 lb pig up every hill they can find. I'm torn between saving the weight so I can run >> their skinny 24 lb butts over, and getting a bit more beef. >> >> Any opinions/recomendations/experiences on this? >> >> -Bruce > > Depends on what you're going to be doing with the fork and the brakes and size of the rotor you > will be using. I already have an 8", but I'm not married to it. No big drops, no more than 3" usually. Lots of high speed rock gardens full of baby heads & pumpkins. -Bruce |
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10-09.-2003, 02:13 AM
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Re: thru axle or QR? heads, tails, heads,.....
On Tue, 09 Sep 2003 16:04:21 +0100, spademan o---[) * wrote:
> > "bruce edge" <edgebruce@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news an.2003.09.09.14.51.04.827880@yahoo.com...>> I'm getting an 04 SPV sherman firefly from Manitou. I can't decide between thru axle or QR. I >> know this is pathetic, but I couldn't sleep last night thinking about this. There's no cost >> difference to me as it's a warranty thing. I do mostly XC riding, but I break everything. >> However, my riding buddies all have 24 lb XC rigs and get way too much enjoyment out of dragging >> me and my 38 lb pig up every hill they can find. I'm torn between saving the weight so I can run >> their skinny 24 lb butts over, and getting a bit more beef. >> >> Any opinions/recomendations/experiences on this? >> >> -Bruce > > I run a thru-axle on my xc bike, no problems at all. How many times do you take your front wheel > off? As for the extra weight?? I can't say I would notice it. Definitely recommed it. Rarely take front wheel off. Only for flats. I could definitely feel the weight in my dorado SC, but this would be a couple of lbs less. (Yes, they lie a dorado SC is no where even close to 5.5 lbs.) > You may end up needing a new front hub, if you do you might consider getting one which can be > switched to fit thru-axle and standard axle hubs such as the Hope Big 'Un or Hope Bulb. Already have a 20 mil hub. So, from your point it sounds like a no brainer. -Bruce |
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10-09.-2003, 02:13 AM
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Re: thru axle or QR? heads, tails, heads,.....
"bruce edge" <edgebruce@yahoo.com> wrote in message news
an.2003.09.09.15.24.51.959038@yahoo.com...> I already have an 8", but I'm not married to it. No big drops, no more than 3" usually. Lots of > high speed rock gardens full of baby heads & pumpkins. I run an 8" with a QR on my Jr T. I've had no problems with it thus far. Some people dislike using a QR with an 8" because of the amount of flex and feedback that you get from the braking pressure on the fork. Then again, I don't weigh as much as a normal human and I don't destroy my equipment, so I don't have those problems. - CA-G Can-Am Girls Kick Ass! |
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10-09.-2003, 02:54 AM
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Re: thru axle or QR? heads, tails, heads,.....
On Tue, 09 Sep 2003 11:50:47 -0400, Carla A-G wrote:
> "bruce edge" <edgebruce@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news an.2003.09.09.15.24.51.959038@yahoo.com...>> I already have an 8", but I'm not married to it. No big drops, no more than 3" usually. Lots of >> high speed rock gardens full of baby heads & pumpkins. > > I run an 8" with a QR on my Jr T. I've had no problems with it thus far. Some people dislike using > a QR with an 8" because of the amount of flex and feedback that you get from the braking pressure > on the fork. Then again, I don't weigh as much as a normal human and I don't destroy my equipment, > so I don't have those problems. > > - CA-G > > Can-Am Girls Kick Ass! Hmm, good point, I hadn't considered brake induced fork warp. I'm barely sub-clydesdale on a good day. It's looking like the 20 mm might be the winner. Thanks, Bruce. |
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10-09.-2003, 12:12 PM
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Re: thru axle or QR? heads, tails, heads,.....
> > >> I already have an 8", but I'm not married to it. No big drops, no
more > > >> than 3" usually. Lots of high speed rock gardens full of baby heads & pumpkins. > > > > > > I run an 8" with a QR on my Jr T. I've had no problems with it thus far. > > > Some people dislike using a QR with an 8" because of the amount of flex > > > and feedback that you get from the braking pressure on the fork. Then again, I don't weigh as > > > much as a normal human and I don't destroy my equipment, so I don't have those problems. > > > > > > - CA-G > > > > > > Can-Am Girls Kick Ass! > > > > Hmm, good point, I hadn't considered brake induced fork warp. I'm barely sub-clydesdale on a > > good day. It's looking like the 20 mm might be the winner. > > > > Thanks, Bruce. > > That, and the extra steering stiffness the 20mm will give you for getting through those rock > gardens at speed. > > Mike Yeah, I say go for it too. When I get around to getting a new Z1or ?, I'll be switching to a 20mm. Plus, it will give me an emergency back-up wheel for both rigs. -- Slacker |
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10-09.-2003, 12:54 PM
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Re: thru axle or QR? heads, tails, heads,.....
> I'm getting an 04 SPV sherman firefly from Manitou. There's no cost difference to me as it's a
> warranty thing. > > -Bruce Hey, I just remembered the Dorado SC (wasn't that it?). What happened to it? Very cool that Manitou is taking care of you :^ ) BTW, I've heard nothing but good things from people who rode/ride the firefly. -- Slacker |
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10-09.-2003, 09:54 PM
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Re: thru axle or QR? heads, tails, heads,.....
"Slacker" <slacker7@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:bjm2a3$kuofb$1@ID-191655.news.uni-berlin.de... > > I'm getting an 04 SPV sherman firefly from Manitou. There's no cost difference to me as it's a > > warranty thing. > > > > -Bruce > > > Hey, I just remembered the Dorado SC (wasn't that it?). What happened to it? > > Very cool that Manitou is taking care of you :^ ) > Isn't the Dorado SC an obscene amount of money? and isn't the firefly about half the price? Steve. |
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11-09.-2003, 02:54 AM
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Re: thru axle or QR? heads, tails, heads,.....
On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 10:04:45 +0100, spademan o---[) * wrote:
> > "Slacker" <slacker7@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message > news:bjm2a3$kuofb$1@ID-191655.news.uni-berlin.de... >> > I'm getting an 04 SPV sherman firefly from Manitou. There's no cost difference to me as it's a >> > warranty thing. >> > >> > -Bruce >> >> >> Hey, I just remembered the Dorado SC (wasn't that it?). What happened to it? >> >> Very cool that Manitou is taking care of you :^ ) >> >> > Isn't the Dorado SC an obscene amount of money? and isn't the firefly about half the price? > > Steve. Yeah, I had the dorado SC, but I didn't pay that much for it. The firefly is more. I got it back from Manitou after a complete rebuild, and it still leaked, so they offered to swap me as the dorado SC is being phased out since it was never a good seller and was kinda heavy. I sent the dorado back yesterday. I'm just waiting for some issue to come up and void the whole thing. I'll believe it when I see it. Although, Manitou has really gone above and beyond what I would have expected in all of my dealings with their customer service. For every broken thing I've ever sent them, they've just charged for shipping. Admittedly I was disappointed when the dorado still leaked, but if I really do get an 04 SPV firefly out it, I'll never buy a fork from anyone else :-) -Bruce |
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11-09.-2003, 02:13 PM
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Re: thru axle or QR? heads, tails, heads,.....
> if I really do get an 04 SPV firefly out it, I'll never buy a fork from anyone else :-)
> > -Bruce Please post a fork report after you take her for a run down Suicide ;^ ) -- Slacker |
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11-09.-2003, 06:30 PM
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Re: thru axle or QR? heads, tails, heads,.....
"bruce edge" <edgebruce@yahoo.com> wrote in message news
an.2003.09.10.16.30.57.157213@yahoo.com...> On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 10:04:45 +0100, spademan o---[) * wrote: > > > > > "Slacker" <slacker7@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message > > news:bjm2a3$kuofb$1@ID-191655.news.uni-berlin.de... > >> > I'm getting an 04 SPV sherman firefly from Manitou. There's no cost difference to me as it's > >> > a warranty thing. > >> > > >> > -Bruce > >> > >> > >> Hey, I just remembered the Dorado SC (wasn't that it?). What happened to it? > >> > >> Very cool that Manitou is taking care of you :^ ) > >> > >> > > Isn't the Dorado SC an obscene amount of money? and isn't the firefly about half the price? > > > > Steve. > > Yeah, I had the dorado SC, but I didn't pay that much for it. The firefly is more. I got it back > from Manitou after a complete rebuild, and it still leaked, so they offered to swap me as the > dorado SC is being phased out since it was never a good seller and was kinda heavy. > > I sent the dorado back yesterday. I'm just waiting for some issue to come up and > void the whole thing. I'll believe it when I see it. Although, Manitou has really gone above and > beyond what I would have expected in all of my dealings with their customer service. For every > broken thing I've ever sent them, they've just charged for shipping. Admittedly I was disappointed > when the dorado still leaked, but if I really do get an 04 SPV firefly out it, I'll never buy a > fork from anyone else :-) > > -Bruce > Sounds like you've caught a good deal, good to hear of good customer service as well. Steve. |
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