Wilderness Q&A

Mike Vandeman

Yes, I have a question: Why can't mountain bikers walk, like everybody
else?

Mike


From: Ted Stroll <tedstroll@yahoo.com>
Subject: Wilderness Q&A

Everyone,

I'm planning to write an article for the ROMP newsletter on mountain
biking and federal Wilderness, i.e., why we can't ride there. It's
basically a legal issue, though, of course, there are political
aspects that affect the legal background.

I'm planning to do the article in question-and-answer format. At first
I was going to write my own questions and answer them, and I still
will, but I thought I should also invite your questions. You're likely
to think of questions that wouldn't occur to me.

So if you have a question, please send it to me and I'll see if I can
incorporate it in the article.

Here are some examples of possible questions: When did the Wilderness
ban take effect? How much Wilderness is there in the U.S.? What's the
main law that says no biking in Wilderness? How can this law or these
laws be changed? Is there any likelihood I'll ever be able to ride in
Wilderness? Please feel free to ask these or any other questions you
have.

Ted
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

Beej Jorgensen

Mike Vandeman <mjvande@pacbell.net> wrote:
>Yes, I have a question: Why can't mountain bikers walk, like everybody
>else?

They can, I assure you! I personally walked just today.

-Beej

Siskuwihane

On Feb 29, 12:16*am, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> Yes, I have a question: Why can't mountain bikers walk, like everybody
> else?
>
> Mike

Probably for the same reason enviromentalists can't take a sailboat to
an international conference.

bluezfolk

On Feb 29, 6:47 am, Siskuwihane <Siskuwih...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 29, 12:16 am, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> > Yes, I have a question: Why can't mountain bikers walk, like everybody
> > else?
>
> > Mike
>
> Probably for the same reason enviromentalists can't take a sailboat to
> an international conference.

Great answer:-)

Jeff Strickland

"Mike Vandeman" <mjvande@pacbell.net> wrote in message
news95fs3drngeq0ut7j5vm91ip5k32at61f3@4ax.com...
> Yes, I have a question: Why can't mountain bikers walk, like everybody
> else?
>
> Mike
>
>

Everybody else does not walk, some ride bikes, some ride horses, some drive
(the slower the better).

"Mike Vandeman" <mjvande@pacbell.net> skrev i en meddelelse
news95fs3drngeq0ut7j5vm91ip5k32at61f3@4ax.com...
> Yes, I have a question: Why can't mountain bikers walk, like everybody
> else?
>
> Mike

Because they are wearing strange shoes!

hehe
tomov

maguahiker@gmail.com

If you put as much energy into hiking and walking yourself as you do
flapping your gums and copying other's articles, you could do the
atlantic to pacific in record time...

Do other people here realize our Berkley "environmental" dietary hero,
mike, was a coward from the military??

<maguahiker@gmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:07bdec41-3a42-45bb-82a1-0548ba26d1df@h11g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> If you put as much energy into hiking and walking yourself as you do
> flapping your gums and copying other's articles, you could do the
> atlantic to pacific in record time...
>
> Do other people here realize our Berkley "environmental" dietary hero,
> mike, was a coward from the military??

You are offtopic - just like mike.

/tomov

maguahiker@gmail.com

On Feb 29, 3:46*pm, <pe...@panto.com> wrote:
> <maguahi...@gmail.com> skrev i en meddelelsenews:07bdec41-3a42-45bb-82a1-0548ba26d1df@h11g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
> > If you put as much energy into hiking and walking yourself as you do
> > flapping your gums and copying other's articles, you could do the
> > atlantic to pacific in record time...
>
> > Do other people here realize our Berkley "environmental" dietary hero,
> > mike, was a coward from the military??
>
> You are offtopic - just like mike.
>
> /tomov

Oh yeah...sorry. I mentioned the fact his original post, which is
always unoriginal because if you look...it is all someone elses
research, posts, letters, etc. Nothing is ever "HIS" material.

Mike Vandeman

On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 06:47:21 +0000 (UTC), Beej Jorgensen
<beej@beej.us> wrote:

>Mike Vandeman <mjvande@pacbell.net> wrote:
>>Yes, I have a question: Why can't mountain bikers walk, like everybody
>>else?
>
>They can, I assure you! I personally walked just today.
>
>-Beej

Then what you all have been saying about not being allowed in various
parks & Wildernesses is a LIE: you DO have access, because you can
WALK.
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

Mike Vandeman

On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 11:42:16 -0800 (PST), "maguahiker@gmail.com"
<maguahiker@gmail.com> wrote:

>If you put as much energy into hiking and walking yourself as you do
>flapping your gums and copying other's articles, you could do the
>atlantic to pacific in record time...
>
>Do other people here realize our Berkley "environmental" dietary hero,
>mike, was a coward from the military??

Nonsense. The government decided the country would be better off with
me finishing my degree, like all the other people who got deferments.
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

Tom Sherman

penta@panto.com wrote:
> "Mike Vandeman" <mjvande@pacbell.net> skrev i en meddelelse
> news95fs3drngeq0ut7j5vm91ip5k32at61f3@4ax.com...
>> Yes, I have a question: Why can't mountain bikers walk, like everybody
>> else?
>>
>> Mike
>
> Because they are wearing strange shoes!
>
No, you are thinking about "road" cyclists who insist on silly cleats
and pedals.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

maguahiker@gmail.com

>
> Nonsense. The government decided the country would be better off with
> me finishing my degree, like all the other people who got deferments.
> --

LoL...just what the country needed at that time. Another Chef. I know
more about you than you could ever imagine. Trust me folks. I have
called it all so far, he's a fraud and a joke. Even to his own
community and others opposing MtBers, he is not respected. Oh, by the
way...I thought you didn't read my posts! Berkley rear rider...mikey.

jheidler1@comcast.net

On Feb 29, 11:55*pm, "maguahi...@gmail.com" <maguahi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> > Nonsense. The government decided the country would be better off with
> > me finishing my degree, like all the other people who got deferments.
> > --
>
> LoL...just what the country needed at that time. Another Chef. I know
> more about you than you could ever imagine. Trust me folks. I have
> called it all so far, he's a fraud and a joke. Even to his own
> community and others opposing MtBers, he is not respected. Oh, by the
> way...I thought you didn't read my posts! Berkley rear rider...mikey.

Mr. PHD (Pile it Higher and Deeper) I will gladly help you with your
venture (wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help?)

Anyone else willing to help? We can all meet Mike with our bikes and
ride while he hikes to survey the areas that he has in mind for his
cause. Keep in mind Mike if we ride we will be able to speed of the
process. The reason we ride, speed and thrills.