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Old 11-03.-2008, 03:43 AM   #1
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Default Carbon Aero Wheels

I am looking to upgrade my wheels and have found many Carbon Aero options. Apperently the ZIPP 404 are the way to go, but they are very expensive so I was wondering if anyone has ridden the Mavic Cosmic Carbone SL. They are more affordale and have good reviews.

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Old 11-03.-2008, 06:32 AM   #2
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I am looking to upgrade my wheels and have found many Carbon Aero options. Apperently the ZIPP 404 are the way to go, but they are very expensive so I was wondering if anyone has ridden the Mavic Cosmic Carbone SL. They are more affordale and have good reviews.

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Don't know much about the Cosmics, but how about American Classic 58 rims? Apparently they're rebadged Zipps and generally cost a lot less.
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Old 11-03.-2008, 06:47 AM   #3
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How about the Flashpoints, they are made by Zipp and at a lower price point.
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I am looking to upgrade my wheels and have found many Carbon Aero options. Apperently the ZIPP 404 are the way to go, but they are very expensive so I was wondering if anyone has ridden the Mavic Cosmic Carbone SL. They are more affordale and have good reviews.

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I have the Cosmic Carbone SLs. They have been bombproof so far. Some people don't like the freehub, which needs 10min maintenance every 6 months.
They look great.
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Old 13-03.-2008, 05:35 AM   #5
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take a look at Williams Cycling. They sell Zipp rims with their ceramic bearings in their own hubs for around $1100 US.
Another good optiono is Soul bikes..
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Old 13-03.-2008, 09:55 AM   #6
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Here are some good options for carbon wheels just over $1000:

- Reynolds Attack
- Ritchey DV44
- Flashpoint 60

Personally, I'd rather get an alloy wheel in that price range with a better hub/bearing assembly than their carbon equivalents.
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I have the Cosmic Carbone SLs. They have been bombproof so far. Some people don't like the freehub, which needs 10min maintenance every 6 months.

What kind of maintenance? Remove and re-oil?
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What kind of maintenance? Remove and re-oil?

You get the freehub off the hub with 2 allen keys (by breaking the axle in half), clean the inner freehub bearing, re-oil the inner bearing and the pawls, and refit the freehub and axle. I'm pretty sure that some/all of the Ksyrium wheels are the same.
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You get the freehub off the hub with 2 allen keys (by breaking the axle in half), clean the inner freehub bearing, re-oil the inner bearing and the pawls, and refit the freehub and axle. I'm pretty sure that some/all of the Ksyrium wheels are the same.

I think you are right about them sharing a common freehub design. Locally, what kind of oil have you been using for it? My 1.5 year old Ksyrium is probably due for a re-lube service.
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I think you are right about them sharing a common freehub design. Locally, what kind of oil have you been using for it? My 1.5 year old Ksyrium is probably due for a re-lube service.

Baby oil.
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. Apperently the ZIPP 404 are the way to go, but they are very expensive so I was wondering if anyone has ridden the Mavic Cosmic Carbone SL. ?


Nothing wrong with SLs. I don't have any, but I'd love some. Some people whinge that they're 'heavy', and that they're not really carbon, but they're just as aero as many more expensive wheelset (even more so that some), and they're strong. It's rare to hear of Carbones breaking; in fact, I've never heard of one breaking that wasn't in a crash, which is (obviously) not to say it hasn't happened, yet we hear that story going 'round that CSC have busted 90 Zipp rims! Yikes! We don't hear that coming out of Saunier Duval

As you say, the reviews for Carbones are very good, but there are few dissatified Zipp owners.
http://www.roadbikereview.com/mfr/z...87_2490crx.aspx

http://www.roadbikereview.com/mfr/z...rx.aspx#reviews

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Don't know much about the Cosmics, but how about American Classic 58 rims? Apparently they're rebadged Zipps and generally cost a lot less.

Most likley the older style rims (non dimpled) but I would not trust the hubs. From experence they tend to die fairly quickly. My suggestion is to try the Token wheels, lots of the guys in the club have them and they are holding up well and run great
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I think you are right about them sharing a common freehub design. Locally, what kind of oil have you been using for it? My 1.5 year old Ksyrium is probably due for a re-lube service.


I use Mobol One auto oil. Cheap, doesn't get thick when cold. These hubs require regular reoiling or they don't freewheel.
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I use Mobol One auto oil. Cheap, doesn't get thick when cold. These hubs require regular reoiling or they don't freewheel.

I actually have some of those on my shelf. I understand that viscosity is critical for this application. Assume that both baby oil and Mobile One are right on. How much do you drip on?
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