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Old 11-03.-2008, 09:12 PM   #1
BT Humble
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I finally got around to building my bakfiets cargo trike prototype:

http://www.smallsolar.org/BTH/bakfiets/

In short, it's about 1/20 as good as one of Tim's cargo bikes, for
1/40 of the price. ;-)


BTH
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Old 11-03.-2008, 09:40 PM   #2
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"BT Humble" <bt_humble@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:5f201f08-c13c-48f2-86b0-22426cabe904@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>I finally got around to building my bakfiets cargo trike prototype:
>
> http://www.smallsolar.org/BTH/bakfiets/
>
> In short, it's about 1/20 as good as one of Tim's cargo bikes, for
> 1/40 of the price. ;-)
>
>
> BTH


Nice piece of bodgy welding there. I reckon that I know a way for you to
address your gearing, braking and lack of reverse problems........go
fixed!!!!

Seriously....I reckon that a very low ratio fixed gear would be ideal as you
probably only ever want to go slow anyway and the fixed gear would give you
a lot more control when fully laden. Get yourself a nice 22T granny ring
from a standard mtb tripple and then get a nice big screw on cog for the
rear that you could always loctite or weld to ensure no slippage when you
brake or select reverse.

You would also have the added bonus of instant street cred!!!

Gags (yes, I rode the fixie to work today!!!)


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Old 11-03.-2008, 11:36 PM   #3
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BT Humble wrote:

> In short, it's about 1/20 as good as one of Tim's cargo bikes, for
> 1/40 of the price. ;-)


Very nice first effort.
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Old 12-03.-2008, 12:25 PM   #4
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Default Re: Bakfiets

On Mar 11, 10:12 pm, BT Humble <bt_hum...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> http://www.smallsolar.org/BTH/bakfiets/


Love your work, BT.

Tried any high-speed slalom action yet? ;-)

You know where to find me when you decide to get a real one.

tim

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Old 12-03.-2008, 12:50 PM   #5
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tim wrote:
> On Mar 11, 10:12 pm,BTHumble <bt_hum...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>
> >http://www.smallsolar.org/BTH/bakfiets/

>
> Love your work,BT.
>
> Tried any high-speed slalom action yet? ;-)
>
> You know where to find me when you decide to get a real one.


Hey, I had to at least *try* a trike before I decided! ;-)


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Old 12-03.-2008, 08:03 PM   #6
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Gags wrote:
> "BTHumble" <bt_hum...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>
> >I finally got around to building my bakfiets cargo trike prototype:

>
> >http://www.smallsolar.org/BTH/bakfiets/

>
> > In short, it's about 1/20 as good as one of Tim's cargo bikes, for
> > 1/40 of the price. ;-)

>
> Nice piece of bodgy welding there.


That hurts, mate. I was doing my best with the equipment I had
available... *sob!*

> I reckon that I know a way for you to
> address your gearing, braking and lack of reverse problems........go
> fixed!!!!


Well yes, I would like to fix the problems.

> Seriously....I reckon that a very low ratio fixed gear would be ideal as you
> probably only ever want to go slow anyway and the fixed gear would give you
> a lot more control when fully laden. Get yourself a nice 22T granny ring
> from a standard mtb tripple and then get a nice big screw on cog for the
> rear that you could always loctite or weld to ensure no slippage when you
> brake or select reverse.


Oh. Well, OK, I'll consider it. I think that sorting out the
handling issues would be priority #1 though.

> You would also have the added bonus of instant street cred!!!


What?! You expect me to just throw away my hard-earned reputation as
a grouchy old git at the drop of a hat? Pah! ;-)


BTH
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Old 12-03.-2008, 08:26 PM   #7
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BT Humble wrote:

> What?! You expect me to just throw away my hard-earned reputation as
> a grouchy old git at the drop of a hat? Pah! ;-)


You have a hat?


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Old 12-03.-2008, 08:59 PM   #8
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BT Humble wrote:

>>Nice piece of bodgy welding there.

>
>
> That hurts, mate. I was doing my best with the equipment I had
> available... *sob!*


He hasn't seen mine yet. Looks loverly so long as I build everything out
of 10mm thick stuff.

< dab hand on the angle grinder to "fix" any weld {:-)"
>

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Old 13-03.-2008, 02:25 PM   #9
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On Mar 12, 7:03*pm, BT Humble <bt_hum...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> Gags wrote:
> > Nice piece of bodgy welding there.

>
> That hurts, mate. *I was doing my best with the equipment I had
> available... *sob!*


Don't listen to that nasty Gags, I'd be perfectly happy with welds
like that. As Terry said, you can hide a lot with an angle grinder and
maybe a skoosh or two of spray primer.

Graeme
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Old 13-03.-2008, 08:40 PM   #10
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Graeme Dods wrote:
> On Mar 12, 7:03 pm,BTHumble <bt_hum...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>
> > Gags wrote:
> > > Nice piece of bodgy welding there.

>
> > That hurts, mate. I was doing my best with the equipment I had
> > available... *sob!*

>
> Don't listen to that nasty Gags, I'd be perfectly happy with welds
> like that. As Terry said, you can hide a lot with an angle grinder and
> maybe a skoosh or two of spray primer.


I'm a better welder than my dad, but not by much. Those rusty 1"
pipes came off a stock crate that he welded together 30 years ago, and
you should have seen some of *THOSE* joins!


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Old 13-03.-2008, 09:40 PM   #11
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BT Humble wrote:

> I'm a better welder than my dad, but not by much. Those rusty 1"
> pipes came off a stock crate that he welded together 30 years ago, and
> you should have seen some of *THOSE* joins!


Scariest welder is my uncle. Claimed that going to TAFE was a total
waste of time. Uh Uh. So now I ask "who welded this up" whenever I have
to climb up anything on the farm.

It was seeing a door hinge that just simply peeled off a metal frame
that made me wary. They had been heated up (stick) just enough to come
together, but not enough to fuse. Oh Oh. I have visions of trailers, etc
simply disintergrating.
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Old 13-03.-2008, 11:46 PM   #12
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On Mar 13, 7:40 pm, BT Humble <bt_hum...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> Graeme Dods wrote:
> > On Mar 12, 7:03 pm,BTHumble <bt_hum...@bigpond.com> wrote:

>
> > > Gags wrote:
> > > > Nice piece of bodgy welding there.

>
> > > That hurts, mate. I was doing my best with the equipment I had
> > > available... *sob!*

>
> > Don't listen to that nasty Gags, I'd be perfectly happy with welds
> > like that. As Terry said, you can hide a lot with an angle grinder and
> > maybe a skoosh or two of spray primer.

>
> I'm a better welder than my dad, but not by much. Those rusty 1"
> pipes came off a stock crate that he welded together 30 years ago, and
> you should have seen some of *THOSE* joins!


My dad's a pretty good welder, it was him who taught me, well, more
like "showed me" and then left me to my own devices after checking a
couple of trial welds. That technique usually works for me, but not
for welding it seems. He had a decent oxyacetylene welder and an arc
welder as big as a tea chest and decent equipment really makes things
easier. I borrowed a little $100 arc welder off a friend when my dad
was over last year. He tried to get some decent welds out of it after
seeing my bodgy job. His were about 100 times better but when he
finished he told me to buy a decent MIG set. I would love to, but if I
could afford one I could afford to pay for someone else to do my
welding jobs!

Graeme

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Old 14-03.-2008, 10:15 AM   #13
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Graeme Dods wrote:
> He had a decent oxyacetylene welder


Drool, personally I think oxy is far more useful for bicycle bulding
than any other unless you are a very good welder, then tig. Only problem
atm is gas bottle rental. Not found a way around that yet.

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Old 14-03.-2008, 10:42 AM   #14
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Graeme Dods wrote:
> My dad's a pretty good welder, it was him who taught me, well, more
> like "showed me" and then left me to my own devices after checking a
> couple of trial welds. That technique usually works for me, but not
> for welding it seems. He had a decent oxyacetylene welder and an arc
> welder as big as a tea chest and decent equipment really makes things
> easier. I borrowed a little $100 arc welder off a friend when my dad
> was over last year. He tried to get some decent welds out of it after
> seeing my bodgy job. His were about 100 times better but when he
> finished he told me to buy a decent MIG set. I would love to, but if I
> could afford one I could afford to pay for someone else to do my
> welding jobs!


I've got a couple of CIG Easywelder stick welders, about 50kg of iron-
cored transformer. The second one cost me nothing, I picked it up on
hard rubbish day in Dandenong last year:

http://www.otherpower.com/images/sc.../freewelder.jpg

It's good for about 140 amps, if I recall correctly. I never need to
go that high, as I only use 2mm/2.5mm rods.


BTH
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Old 14-03.-2008, 11:52 AM   #15
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BT Humble wrote:

> It's good for about 140 amps, if I recall correctly. I never need to
> go that high, as I only use 2mm/2.5mm rods.


Very robust. Our TAFE has a few of those.

The real question (for bicycle building) is how low does it go?
Unfortunately, my decent quality home welder will not turn down enough
to do 1.6(?)mm rods.
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