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kennf

Interesting article on the ACE split from Velonews, with Andreu speaking out:

http://www.velonews.com/article/733...lit-over-landis

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helmutRoole2

How about fessin' up, Floyd?

Wow, they both got paid. Scott got paid to help Rock beat the inevitable doping cases. Scott paid Strauss to keep his mouth shut.

Both these guys are in it for the money. Look, you want impartiality, contract these anti-doping services out to reputable sports medicine programs at accredited universities. Don't just dump all that payola in one or two people's laps. You plow that money back into the education systems, stake the reputation of the university on it and you'll see impartial results. You think Kayle Leongrande wants his blood samples scrutinized by a half dozen grad students and then validated by their professor and then later USADA and WADA?

But you can take sides, and that's the issue. To say, "I'm not biased and therefore I trust myself and so should everyone else," is a very low threshold of integrity. The threshold stands at the appearance of a conflict of interest. If there is an appearance, you extract yourself from the proceedings because you know people will point out the obvious conflict of interes. You wouldn't have a judge presiding over his golfing buddy's case, right? Bad example because it's happened, but clearly, if there's an appearance, you've got an issue.

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Crankyfeet

Helmut has nailed it IMO. If he's innocent, he should be spreadng the independent reputable opinions as far and wide as he can get them. Not forming an incestuous little club of people he can trust. Needing a relationship and requiring trust just bleats to the world that you have something to hide. Which obviously he does.

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thunder

Someone should really ask Scott how Floyd's hematocrit went from 42 or 43 to 45 in the final week.

Explain that away, SFNFCE (scientist formerly known for cycling ethics>

kennf

It's pretty amazing how Scott will wind up working with Suh and Landis again with Rock Racing as the nexus.

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OAR8

Not really when cheats and fags are naturally attracted to each other. It is almost like a bum fights episode with the guy offering up 20 bones for one bum to fight the other.

I guess Old No. 7 can always call up his bud will to make threatening phone calls to any anti doping program that may or may not agree with his results.

italiano

love it.

I know who cheats.

But who fags? Landis? Scott? Suh? Ball? All?

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