Cycling and bicycle racing discussion forums.   View New Forum Topics
Today's Forum Topics

Set as homepage


Go Back   Cycling Forums > Tech Corner > Cycling Training
User Name
Password
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Welcome to CyclingForums.com

You are currently viewing our website as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions. You will have to register before you can post to this thread.

By joining our free online community you will have access to post new topics, communicate privately with other cyclingforums.com members (PM), respond to polls, upload photos and access other special features like product reviews and classifieds.


Killer Workout

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 18-03.-2008, 06:50 PM   #1
Alex Simmons
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 1,560
Default Killer Workout

I was thinking up a new killer training workout for when I get back to riding. It goes something like:

On the indoor trainer
with the heater on to acclimatise to summer racing
and front wheel raised to simulate climbing (using Sydney's white and yellow pages of course)
and Active Spokes on the rear wheel
at low cadence, strength-endurance style (so my capilliaries don't explode)
riding intervals at anaerobic threshold heart rate for 10-min (as determined by a Conconi test)
using power cranks
with elliptical chainrings
while breathing thru a powerbreathe device
in a high altitude tent
and for rest intervals I jump off and do a weight set.

Afterwards a cold bath so lactic acid is flushed away.

but was wondering if anyone could help me add some other killer elements....
Alex Simmons is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 18-03.-2008, 07:04 PM   #2
coneofsilence
Registered User
 
coneofsilence's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 820
Default Re: Killer Workout

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Simmons
I was thinking up a new killer training workout for when I get back to riding. It goes something like:

On the indoor trainer
with the heater on to acclimatise to summer racing
and front wheel raised to simulate climbing (using Sydney's white and yellow pages of course)
and Active Spokes on the rear wheel
at low cadence, strength-endurance style (so my capilliaries don't explode)
riding intervals at anaerobic threshold heart rate for 10-min (as determined by a Conconi test)
using power cranks
with elliptical chainrings
while breathing thru a powerbreathe device
in a high altitude tent
and for rest intervals I jump off and do a weight set.

Afterwards a cold bath so lactic acid is flushed away.

but was wondering if anyone could help me add some other killer elements....

Killer workout thats for sure. The first line kills me. Damn indoor trainers.
Maybe you could have some britney spears or paris hilton playing as workout music.
coneofsilence is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 18-03.-2008, 08:36 PM   #3
grahamspringett
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 123
Default Re: Killer Workout

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Simmons
I was thinking up a new killer training workout for when I get back to riding. It goes something like:

On the indoor trainer
with the heater on to acclimatise to summer racing
and front wheel raised to simulate climbing (using Sydney's white and yellow pages of course)
and Active Spokes on the rear wheel
at low cadence, strength-endurance style (so my capilliaries don't explode)
riding intervals at anaerobic threshold heart rate for 10-min (as determined by a Conconi test)
using power cranks
with elliptical chainrings
while breathing thru a powerbreathe device
in a high altitude tent
and for rest intervals I jump off and do a weight set.

Afterwards a cold bath so lactic acid is flushed away.

but was wondering if anyone could help me add some other killer elements....


Remove the saddle.
grahamspringett is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 18-03.-2008, 09:05 PM   #4
mikesbytes
Registered User
 
mikesbytes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Ashfield, Sydney, NSW, Australia
Posts: 1,690
Default Re: Killer Workout

Add some zero resistance sprints at the end.
__________________
Training Log

mikesbytes is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 18-03.-2008, 10:41 PM   #5
Felt_Rider
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,199
Default Re: Killer Workout

I am not familiar with Sydney's phone books. Would that put you at a 8 to 10% gradient?

I use a large industrial fan directly in front of me to help me get use to training in head winds, but I often like the best looking girl in the spin class to have her bike set in front of mine so that I can practice drafting. Sometime they get a little aggrivated and say, "would you stop breathing down my shorts."
__________________
My Blog
Felt_Rider is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 18-03.-2008, 11:11 PM   #6
Alex Simmons
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 1,560
Default Re: Killer Workout

Quote:
Originally Posted by Felt_Rider
I am not familiar with Sydney's phone books. Would that put you at a 8 to 10% gradient?
I'll do the measurements tomorrow.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Felt_Rider
I use a large industrial fan directly in front of me to help me get use to training in head winds, ...
Nice one. So for recovery riding I'll put the fan behind me.
Alex Simmons is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 19-03.-2008, 12:13 AM   #7
Felt_Rider
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,199
Default Re: Killer Workout

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Simmons
I'll do the measurements tomorrow.
Nice one. So for recovery riding I'll put the fan behind me.


.......and accordingly adjust the fan to the side to see how bad your disc wheels on your trainer react to cross winds.

On a different note:
I know a lot of guys swear by Assos Chamois Creme, but I am using a different approach by putting sand in my shorts to toughen up things a little.
__________________
My Blog
Felt_Rider is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 19-03.-2008, 12:40 AM   #8
Steve_B
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 490
Default Re: Killer Workout

Quote:
Originally Posted by Felt_Rider
I am using a different approach by putting sand in my shorts to toughen up things a little.
I see you bought my old team's shorts too.
Steve_B is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 19-03.-2008, 12:43 AM   #9
Steve_B
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 490
Default Re: Killer Workout

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Simmons
but was wondering if anyone could help me add some other killer elements....
Donate 2 liters of blood a few hours beforehand.
Steve_B is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 19-03.-2008, 12:50 AM   #10
frenchyge
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Kansas City, USA
Posts: 3,559
Default Re: Killer Workout

Ride a flat tubular for better road-feel.
Use lead weights in the water bottles and attach a trailer full of cement blocks.
Keep the spinscan value >80 for the entire interval, and add a 1-minute ramp to MaxHR at the end of each one.
Repeat until P:HR ratio goes negative, and then you're ready to race.
frenchyge is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 19-03.-2008, 01:31 AM   #11
daveryanwyoming
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,356
Default Re: Killer Workout

Quote:
Originally Posted by frenchyge
Ride a flat tubular for better road-feel.
Use lead weights in the water bottles and attach a trailer full of cement blocks.
Keep the spinscan value >80 for the entire interval, and add a 1-minute ramp to MaxHR at the end of each one.
Repeat until P:HR ratio goes negative, and then you're ready to race.
Fantastic workout plan Alex! But you know you can't develop race speed with steady 10 minute intervals, how about putting them phone books under the trainer legs and wind out some downhill speed intervals. Maybe 45 seconds on with 10 minutes rest between each one that'll get your speed up!

Oh yeah, and if you do these daily(why do anything else) you'll want to watch your nutrition. I'd suggest a big rare steak after each workout. Gotta keep that protein topped off if you want to do this day after day........
daveryanwyoming is online now  
Reply With Quote
Old 19-03.-2008, 01:53 AM   #12
kopride
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 372
Default Re: Killer Workout

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Simmons
I was thinking up a new killer training workout for when I get back to riding. It goes something like:

On the indoor trainer
with the heater on to acclimatise to summer racing
and front wheel raised to simulate climbing (using Sydney's white and yellow pages of course)
and Active Spokes on the rear wheel
at low cadence, strength-endurance style (so my capilliaries don't explode)
riding intervals at anaerobic threshold heart rate for 10-min (as determined by a Conconi test)
using power cranks
with elliptical chainrings
while breathing thru a powerbreathe device
in a high altitude tent
and for rest intervals I jump off and do a weight set.

Afterwards a cold bath so lactic acid is flushed away.

but was wondering if anyone could help me add some other killer elements....

Alex, given your situation, have you thought of trying to integrate some bodyweight pistols into your routine? A pistol is basically a one legged squat down to the floor. Google bodyweight pistols and you should find some good descriptions of them. It will take you some practice and you need to work through some of the progressions until you can even do one in good form. As you know, lifting is pretty controversial on this forum, but I find pistols to be a pretty good complement to cycling. Particulalry, if you integrate them in a GTG method. Basically, you start doing them randomly throughout the day, never to failure and only a few reps per shot. I have to imagine they will help you tremendously with balance and strength in the one leg. You need zero equipment and can do them anywhere.
kopride is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 19-03.-2008, 08:48 AM   #13
Piotr
Registered User
 
Piotr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Draper, Utah
Posts: 393
Default Re: Killer Workout

Quote:
Originally Posted by kopride
Alex, given your situation, have you thought of trying to integrate some bodyweight pistols into your routine? A pistol is basically a one legged squat down to the floor. Google bodyweight pistols and you should find some good descriptions of them. It will take you some practice and you need to work through some of the progressions until you can even do one in good form. As you know, lifting is pretty controversial on this forum, but I find pistols to be a pretty good complement to cycling. Particulalry, if you integrate them in a GTG method. Basically, you start doing them randomly throughout the day, never to failure and only a few reps per shot. I have to imagine they will help you tremendously with balance and strength in the one leg. You need zero equipment and can do them anywhere.
Kopride, I think your post violates the serious premise of this thread. Doesn't it?

Alex, what are you planning to do in terms of your arm strength? You know, to help your climbing?
__________________
blog
Piotr is online now  
Reply With Quote
Old 19-03.-2008, 11:15 AM   #14
Alex Simmons
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 1,560
Default Re: Killer Workout

Quote:
Originally Posted by Piotr
Kopride, I think your post violates the serious premise of this thread. Doesn't it?

Alex, what are you planning to do in terms of your arm strength? You know, to help your climbing?
Bicep curls and tricep extensions using the phone books of course!!

Speaking of phone books, total height 175mm. Height of rear wheel off ground. ~ ~35mm. Wheelbase 1025mm.

So total elevation of front vs back wheel is 175-35 mm = 140mm over a wheelbase of 1025mm. Arcsin(140/1025) =~ 8 degrees gradient


I was thinking I should wear the aero helmet when doing my VO2 Max work though.

And change to mid foot cleat position.

Well on the left leg it'll end up being an ankle cleat position anyway !
Alex Simmons is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 19-03.-2008, 11:26 AM   #15
swampy1970
Registered User
 
swampy1970's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 386
Default Re: Killer Workout

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Simmons
I was thinking up a new killer training workout for when I get back to riding. It goes something like:

On the indoor trainer
with the heater on to acclimatise to summer racing
and front wheel raised to simulate climbing (using Sydney's white and yellow pages of course)
and Active Spokes on the rear wheel
at low cadence, strength-endurance style (so my capilliaries don't explode)
riding intervals at anaerobic threshold heart rate for 10-min (as determined by a Conconi test)
using power cranks
with elliptical chainrings
while breathing thru a powerbreathe device
in a high altitude tent
and for rest intervals I jump off and do a weight set.

Afterwards a cold bath so lactic acid is flushed away.

but was wondering if anyone could help me add some other killer elements....

Your forgot the rubberized skinsuit and electric cattle prod that's linked to a torque sensor in the cranks. If you try and pull up/unweight you get 240v/30amps in your ass. It's all about the push, yo!
swampy1970 is offline  
Reply With Quote

Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump



All times are GMT +10. The time now is 07:03 AM.


Powered by: vBulletin Copyright © 2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 2001 - 2006 cyclingforums.com

Links to websites we like:
Pezcyclingnews | Cyclingnews.com | Wine Zone | iinet