Request to investigate L.A. !

10-04.-2008, 06:13 AM	#1
poulidor Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 936	Request to investigate L.A. ! Funny, they do it! http://www.investigatelance.org/home __________________ Let Astana and McQuaid whine !

10-04.-2008, 06:41 AM

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Re: Request to investigate L.A. !

Vaughn Trevi (DPF site owner / editor) throws his hat into the ring:

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Ok here you go lads.

I know some of you have been waiting for this.

New site went up today calling for a congressional investigation on who else but Lance Armstrong for perjury. Is there no end to this...

Perhaps there is if Congress did investigate and found LA innocent... :P
eh who am I kidding. Even a clean rider couldn't convince anyone he didn't dope. Not in this world; only the honest, brave and foolhardy confess. Those who ride clean and say so are so challenged and people wait for that head to fall.

In the way of news there isn't much new there just the same old castigations, ruminations, rumors and regurgitated testifications; but it is neatly wrapped up in one location and with links to your congressional representatives so you can suggest they investigate.

I don't have the words to describe the depth of Vaughn's bullshit.

10-04.-2008, 06:52 AM

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Re: Request to investigate L.A. !

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Originally Posted by jimmypop

Vaughn Trevi (DPF site owner / editor) throws his hat into the ring:

I don't have the words to describe the depth of Vaughn's bullshit.

I will be posting on this topic at DP, of that I am sure.

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10-04.-2008, 07:04 AM	#4
TheDarkLord Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: The land where the shadows lie Posts: 3,171	Re: Request to investigate L.A. ! It will be interesting to see how LA's gang of thugs react to this website.

10-04.-2008, 07:11 AM	#5
poulidor Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 936	Re: Request to investigate L.A. ! That Spring is becoming hotter for US cycling! Apparently US people who are supporting LA, Landis or even Hamilton are all against Lemond. Certainly the Bush concept, you are with us or against! Maybe it's true, 2 sides , dopers and liars against antidopers __________________ Let Astana and McQuaid whine !

10-04.-2008, 07:30 AM

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Re: Request to investigate L.A. !

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That Spring is becoming hotter for US cycling!

Apparently US people who are supporting LA, Landis or even Hamilton are all against Lemond. Certainly the Bush concept, you are with us or against!
Maybe it's true, 2 sides , dopers and liars against antidopers

It's not just the Bush concept. The other side (far left) do the same thing, they just have better press.

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10-04.-2008, 07:38 AM

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Re: Request to investigate L.A. !

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Originally Posted by jimmypop

Vaughn Trevi (DPF site owner / editor) throws his hat into the ring:

I don't have the words to describe the depth of Vaughn's bullshit.

Either he actually believes that LA is clean, or ... there is no or... he's an idiot

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10-04.-2008, 07:52 AM	#8
earth_dweller Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,276	Re: Request to investigate L.A. ! The investigate LA site seems to have been put together pretty fast, with the grammatical errors floating around. Interesting timing with the Lemond vs Trek stuff going on. I'm wondering if decanio has found a new outlet.

10-04.-2008, 08:25 AM

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The investigate LA site seems to have been put together pretty fast, with the grammatical errors floating around. Interesting timing with the Lemond vs Trek stuff going on.

I'm wondering if decanio has found a new outlet.

They definitely need some proofreading. Only 87 hits on the site so far and only one "guestbook" signature.

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10-04.-2008, 10:40 AM	#10
stilesiii Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Iberia, Louisiana Posts: 121	Re: Request to investigate L.A. ! Considering that LA had both testicles removed, I believe he would have been prescribed testosterone as a hormone replacement therapy. Would he have been allowed to compete? How did this effect the ability of UCI to test? Would this make doping easier?

10-04.-2008, 10:55 AM

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Re: Request to investigate L.A. !

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Originally Posted by hawkeye87

It's not just the Bush concept. The other side (far left) do the same thing, they just have better press.

...it may be something the "far left" does, but one cannot deny that bush/rove have a great personal history of whisper & smear campaigns used since their political association began.

back on topic, this is a fine point for why i'd argue that alexi grewal should have named names or, at the very least, offered up some testimony which would give authorities a starting point to follow the money.

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10-04.-2008, 11:23 AM

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It's not just the Bush concept. The other side (far left) do the same thing, they just have better press.

The other side (insert left or right here) do the same thing, they just have better press.

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10-04.-2008, 11:35 AM

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Considering that LA had both testicles removed, I believe he would have been prescribed testosterone as a hormone replacement therapy. Would he have been allowed to compete? How did this effect the ability of UCI to test? Would this make doping easier?

Both? No, just one.

10-04.-2008, 11:51 AM	#14
Bro Deal Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Resting by the Tumtum tree Posts: 5,611	Re: Request to investigate L.A. ! Yeah, this is going to work about as well as Let Levi Ride. __________________ "You are like the wind and I like the lion. You form the tempest. The sand stings my eyes and the ground is parched. I roar in defiance but you do not hear. But between us there is a difference. I, like the lion, must remain in my place. While you like the wind will never know yours." -- Mulay Hamid El Raisuli, Lord of the Riff, Sultan to the Berbers, Last of the Barbary Pirates

10-04.-2008, 11:58 AM

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Re: Request to investigate L.A. !

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Originally Posted by jimmypop

Vaughn Trevi (DPF site owner / editor) throws his hat into the ring:

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Originally Posted by Vaughn

Ok here you go lads.

I know some of you have been waiting for this.

I don't have the words to describe the depth of Vaughn's bullshit.

Okay... so here we get the real bias. As anyone in cycling knows... passing in-competition tests means very little as far as determining if you dope or not. There are multiple instances of dopers who never tested positive. This is not to say that Lance is dirty, but to 100% state he was clean is just expressing an opinion.

So just based on opinion and rumor... VT has determined that LA is clean. If he is clean... it will be revealed in any investigation (at least revealed that there is no evidence he was dirty). So what is the worry? This is a blatant example of double standards and the real reason behind the DPF policy. It is to protect the idea that Lance won clean. Vaughn is doing here what he disallows everyone else to do. Presenting his unsubstantiated opinion as fact, when it can only, through multiple examples of other confessed dopers who passed dope tests, be an opinion.

Irrespective of whether the site is just a self-flagellating waste of time... Vaughn has said enough to reveal his bias and double standards. And Vaughn is only really a symbol of all the other Lance apostles. They are so afraid that the person they have staked there cycling soul on becomes another fallen idol, that they have to respond, and protect, and oppress any contrary opinion. I hope Lance goes down partly so these guys can learn the real meaning of objectivity... learn their own sermon that they spout from the pulpit every day.

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