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Do Shimano SPD road pedal clips fit on Mtn Bike shoes?

 
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Old 27-04.-2008, 01:48 AM   #1
andy.kalish@verizon.net
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Default Do Shimano SPD road pedal clips fit on Mtn Bike shoes?

I'm thinking of buying Shimano Ultegra PD-6620 SPD-SL Road Pedals...
I’m wondering if the cleats will fit my shoes. My shoes are diadora
Mtn bike shoes (because I like to be able to walk off the bike) circa
1997, and have about 1.5 inch wide recessed area for the cleats.

Can anyone tell me the dimensions of the PD-6620 cleats that come with
the pedals, and if you know if they will fit shoes that have recessed
cleats?

If they will not fit my shoe, can you recommend a shoe that will allow
me to walk and still use these pedals?

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Old 27-04.-2008, 02:04 AM   #2
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Default Re: Do Shimano SPD road pedal clips fit on Mtn Bike shoes?

On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 09:48:39 -0700 (PDT), andy.kalish@verizon.net
wrote:

>I'm thinking of buying Shimano Ultegra PD-6620 SPD-SL Road Pedals...
>I’m wondering if the cleats will fit my shoes. My shoes are diadora
>Mtn bike shoes (because I like to be able to walk off the bike) circa
>1997, and have about 1.5 inch wide recessed area for the cleats.
>
>Can anyone tell me the dimensions of the PD-6620 cleats that come with
>the pedals, and if you know if they will fit shoes that have recessed
>cleats?
>
>If they will not fit my shoe, can you recommend a shoe that will allow
>me to walk and still use these pedals?


SPD-SL road pedal has a 3-bolt cleat, the shoe has to have three cleat
attachment screw holes. SPD mtn bike pedals have 2-bolt cleats. I
seem to recall having seen a shoe model or two which had both style
cleat mountings, but not recently and not in a prominent or popular
shoe brand. You might check Performance Bike or Bike Bashbar online
for such a thing. The answer to your first question is basically NO.
There was a shoe by LAKE brand that had big rubber cleats on the sole
that kept the cleat from touching the ground when you walk. It was
marketed as a touring shoe and if I recall correctly, it had the
3-bolt hole pattern for cleat attachment.

By the way, Speedplay Frog mtn bike pedals have a 2-bolt cleat and are
very popular with a lot of serious recreational road riders. Might
have a look at them. They will work well with your shoes.

Hope this helps.

Cal
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Old 27-04.-2008, 02:21 AM   #3
Lou Holtman
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Default Re: Do Shimano SPD road pedal clips fit on Mtn Bike shoes?

andy.kalish@verizon.net wrote:
> I'm thinking of buying Shimano Ultegra PD-6620 SPD-SL Road Pedals...
> I’m wondering if the cleats will fit my shoes. My shoes are diadora
> Mtn bike shoes (because I like to be able to walk off the bike) circa
> 1997, and have about 1.5 inch wide recessed area for the cleats.
>
> Can anyone tell me the dimensions of the PD-6620 cleats that come with
> the pedals, and if you know if they will fit shoes that have recessed
> cleats?


The don't fit MTB shoes.

> If they will not fit my shoe, can you recommend a shoe that will allow
> me to walk and still use these pedals?


What makes these pedals so special? If you want to walk use some kind of
ATB pedals. SPD, Time Atac, Speedplay Frogs etc. They are all two sided
as a bonus.

Lou

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Old 27-04.-2008, 02:41 AM   #4
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Default Re: Do Shimano SPD road pedal clips fit on Mtn Bike shoes?

On Apr 26, 6:48*pm, andy.kal...@verizon.net wrote:
> I'm thinking of buying Shimano Ultegra PD-6620 SPD-SL Road Pedals...
> I’m wondering if the cleats will fit my shoes. *My shoes are diadora
> Mtn bike shoes (because I like to be able to walk off the bike) circa
> 1997, and have about 1.5 inch wide recessed area for the cleats.
>
> Can anyone tell me the dimensions of the PD-6620 cleats that come with
> the pedals, and if you know if they will fit shoes that have recessed
> cleats?
>
> If they will not fit my shoe, can you recommend a shoe that will allow
> me to walk and still use these pedals?


SPD-SL type cleats will only work on a smooth sole shoe.

Those type pedals and cleats are not made to walk around. If you want
to walk around you need a different setup.

Lake makes some that supposedly work with Look cleats, but the whole
idea seems ridiculous:

http://www.lakecycling.com/ProductI...productid=CX120

I use Ultegra pedals on my road bike, but when I use that bike I do no
walking. On the bikes I do walking with, I use other pedal systems.

Joseph

Joseph
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Old 27-04.-2008, 04:11 AM   #5
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Default Re: Do Shimano SPD road pedal clips fit on Mtn Bike shoes?

Lou Holtman <lholremovethis@planet.nl> wrote:
> What makes these pedals so special? If you want to walk use some
> kind of ATB pedals. SPD, Time Atac, Speedplay Frogs etc. They are
> all two sided as a bonus.


....anf if one wants a more "racing pedal" look there are still one
sided SPD and alike available.

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Old 27-04.-2008, 04:52 AM   #6
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Default Re: Do Shimano SPD road pedal clips fit on Mtn Bike shoes?

On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 19:21:03 +0200, Lou Holtman
<lholremovethis@planet.nl> wrote:

>> If they will not fit my shoe, can you recommend a shoe that will allow
>> me to walk and still use these pedals?

>
>What makes these pedals so special? If you want to walk use some kind of
>ATB pedals. SPD, Time Atac, Speedplay Frogs etc. They are all two sided
>as a bonus.


Almost all. Shimano's A520:

<http://bike.shimano.com/publish/content/global_cycle/en/us/index/products/pedals/road/product.-code-PD-A520.-type-pd_road.html>

is single-sided.
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Old 27-04.-2008, 05:30 AM   #7
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Default Re: Do Shimano SPD road pedal clips fit on Mtn Bike shoes?

Andrew Price wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 19:21:03 +0200, Lou Holtman
> <lholremovethis@planet.nl> wrote:
>
>>> If they will not fit my shoe, can you recommend a shoe that will allow
>>> me to walk and still use these pedals?

>> What makes these pedals so special? If you want to walk use some kind of
>> ATB pedals. SPD, Time Atac, Speedplay Frogs etc. They are all two sided
>> as a bonus.

>
> Almost all. Shimano's A520:
>
> <http://bike.shimano.com/publish/content/global_cycle/en/us/index/products/pedals/road/product.-code-PD-A520.-type-pd_road.html>
>
> is single-sided.



If you decide for SPD it would be dumb to pick single sided.

Lou
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Old 27-04.-2008, 06:06 AM   #8
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On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 22:30:43 +0200, Lou Holtman
<lholditniet@planet.nl> wrote:

>>> What makes these pedals so special? If you want to walk use some kind of
>>> ATB pedals. SPD, Time Atac, Speedplay Frogs etc. They are all two sided
>>> as a bonus.

>>
>> Almost all. Shimano's A520:
>>
>> <http://bike.shimano.com/publish/content/global_cycle/en/us/index/products/pedals/road/product.-code-PD-A520.-type-pd_road.html>
>>
>> is single-sided.

>
>If you decide for SPD it would be dumb to pick single sided.


That's your opinion. Others obviously do not agree, otherwise Shimano
wouldn't make them.
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Old 27-04.-2008, 06:30 AM   #9
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Andrew Price wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 22:30:43 +0200, Lou Holtman
> <lholditniet@planet.nl> wrote:
>
>>>> What makes these pedals so special? If you want to walk use some kind of
>>>> ATB pedals. SPD, Time Atac, Speedplay Frogs etc. They are all two sided
>>>> as a bonus.
>>> Almost all. Shimano's A520:
>>>
>>> <http://bike.shimano.com/publish/content/global_cycle/en/us/index/products/pedals/road/product.-code-PD-A520.-type-pd_road.html>
>>>
>>> is single-sided.

>> If you decide for SPD it would be dumb to pick single sided.

>
> That's your opinion.


Of course.

> Others obviously do not agree,


I can not think of a reason not to pick a two sided pedal.

> otherwise Shimano
> wouldn't make them.


hmm...

Lou
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Old 27-04.-2008, 07:31 AM   #10
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On Apr 26, 2:30 pm, Lou Holtman <lholditn...@planet.nl> wrote:
> Andrew Price wrote:
> > On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 22:30:43 +0200, Lou Holtman
> > <lholditn...@planet.nl> wrote:

>
> >>>> What makes these pedals so special? If you want to walk use some kind of
> >>>> ATB pedals. SPD, Time Atac, Speedplay Frogs etc. They are all two sided
> >>>> as a bonus.
> >>> Almost all. Shimano's A520:

>
> >>> <http://bike.shimano.com/publish/content/global_cycle/en/us/index/prod...>

>
> >>> is single-sided.


> >> If you decide for SPD it would be dumb to pick single sided.

>


>
> I can not think of a reason not to pick a two sided pedal.
>


What about cornering / ground clearance? What about component quality
and overall cost? What about fewer moving parts to maintain? I don't
know if these are valid - just some thoughts that came to mind.


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Old 27-04.-2008, 03:12 PM   #11
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Default Re: Do Shimano SPD road pedal clips fit on Mtn Bike shoes?

SPD =/= SPD-SL
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Old 27-04.-2008, 09:23 PM   #12
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Default Re: Do Shimano SPD road pedal clips fit on Mtn Bike shoes?

On Apr 26, 10:48*am, andy.kal...@verizon.net wrote:
> I'm thinking of buying Shimano Ultegra PD-6620 SPD-SL Road Pedals...
> I’m wondering if the cleats will fit my shoes. *My shoes are diadora
> Mtn bike shoes (because I like to be able to walk off the bike) circa
> 1997, and have about 1.5 inch wide recessed area for the cleats.
>
> Can anyone tell me the dimensions of the PD-6620 cleats that come with
> the pedals, and if you know if they will fit shoes that have recessed
> cleats?
>
> If they will not fit my shoe, can you recommend a shoe that will allow
> me to walk and still use these pedals?


No they will not. You need non pontooned shoes with the now standard 3
bolt, Look type pattern.
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Old 28-04.-2008, 03:44 AM   #13
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In article
<c8331983-e73f-4971-874b-60fb99464d1a@q1g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
"Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com" <peter@vecchios.com> wrote:

> On Apr 26, 10:48*am, andy.kal...@verizon.net wrote:
> > I'm thinking of buying Shimano Ultegra PD-6620 SPD-SL Road Pedals...
> > I¹m wondering if the cleats will fit my shoes. *My shoes are diadora
> > Mtn bike shoes (because I like to be able to walk off the bike) circa
> > 1997, and have about 1.5 inch wide recessed area for the cleats.
> >
> > Can anyone tell me the dimensions of the PD-6620 cleats that come with
> > the pedals, and if you know if they will fit shoes that have recessed
> > cleats?
> >
> > If they will not fit my shoe, can you recommend a shoe that will allow
> > me to walk and still use these pedals?

>
> No they will not. You need non pontooned shoes with the now standard 3
> bolt, Look type pattern.


The meta-question is why you bought SPD-SL pedals if you like to be able
to walk off the bike.

Dirty secret time: SPD is perfectly fine for most cyclists in most
circumstances. I raced, with some success, on SPDs. The only reason I
changed to Crank Brothers pedals (also walkable, of course) was because
they're a little better for cyclocross (SPDs tend to get clogged up if
you try walking through mud and then rapidly remounting your bike).

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"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."
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Old 28-04.-2008, 04:12 PM   #14
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"Dan O" <danoverman@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:5e3befd3-2d99-442c-b4ba-a056c895053b@w8g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 26, 2:30 pm, Lou Holtman <lholditn...@planet.nl> wrote:
> > Andrew Price wrote:
> > > On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 22:30:43 +0200, Lou Holtman
> > > <lholditn...@planet.nl> wrote:

> >
> > >>>> What makes these pedals so special? If you want to walk use some

kind of
> > >>>> ATB pedals. SPD, Time Atac, Speedplay Frogs etc. They are all two

sided
> > >>>> as a bonus.
> > >>> Almost all. Shimano's A520:

> >
> > >>>

<http://bike.shimano.com/publish/content/global_cycle/en/us/index/prod...>
> >
> > >>> is single-sided.

>
> > >> If you decide for SPD it would be dumb to pick single sided.

> >

>
> >
> > I can not think of a reason not to pick a two sided pedal.
> >

>
> What about cornering / ground clearance? What about component quality
> and overall cost? What about fewer moving parts to maintain? I don't
> know if these are valid - just some thoughts that came to mind.


Hardly valid IMHO. Many people have some kind of excuse not to use two sided
SPD pedals. Even top notch XTR SPD pedals (70 euro) are cheaper than most
racy road pedals.

Lou


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Old 28-04.-2008, 04:54 PM   #15
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Lou Holtman <lholditniet@planet.nl> wrote:
>> Others obviously do not agree,

>
> I can not think of a reason not to pick a two sided pedal.


For some people with rather long cranks on low BBs the cornering
clearance might be a point.

I simply find them more convenient: always hanging the same way it's
easy to tip and click without looking.

Comparing the A520 with my two sided 747 the A520 with its cage
offers a more solid base, using MTB shoes.

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