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Astana not ready for Giro

 
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Old 06-05.-2008, 05:19 AM   #1
hizark21
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Contador and Leiphiemier have said they are not fully ready for the
Giro. This is a bit of surprise considering how late in the season it
is. If Astana does not peform well this could dampen any chances of
getting accepted into the TDF.
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Old 06-05.-2008, 09:40 AM   #2
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On Mon, 5 May 2008 13:19:27 -0700 (PDT), hizark21 <hizark21@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>Contador and Leiphiemier have said they are not fully ready for the
>Giro. This is a bit of surprise considering how late in the season it
>is. If Astana does not peform well this could dampen any chances of
>getting accepted into the TDF.


Who cares, according to CN they'll be riding in support of Klödi, I
don't see how he could lose the Giro with all the ITT's and his
excellent climbing skills.Probably a blessing for him to have to race
the Giro, here comes his first GT win!

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Old 06-05.-2008, 10:36 AM   #3
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> Contador and Leiphiemier have said they are not fully ready for the
> Giro. This is a bit of surprise considering how late in the season it
> is. If Astana does not peform well this could dampen any chances of
> getting accepted into the TDF.


This isn't about getting into the TdF. They gave up on that some time ago.
But if they can "stick it to the man" by doing exceptionally well in the
Giro and Vuelta, they'd be quite happy, I'm sure.

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA


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Old 06-05.-2008, 11:57 AM   #4
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Circa Mon, 5 May 2008 13:19:27 -0700 (PDT), hizark21
<hizark21@yahoo.com> typed:

>Contador and Leiphiemier have said they are not fully ready for the
>Giro. This is a bit of surprise considering how late in the season it
>is. If Astana does not peform well this could dampen any chances of
>getting accepted into the TDF.


The Kazakh financiers were able to bribe Zomegnan but they can't
afford Prudhomme. For him it's personal.

They have set themselves up perfectly. If they do well, everyone lauds
them. If they don't, they have already sown the seed for their excuse.

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Old 06-05.-2008, 03:11 PM   #5
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hizark21 wrote:
> Contador and Leiphiemier have said they are not fully ready for the
> Giro. This is a bit of surprise considering how late in the season it
> is. If Astana does not peform well this could dampen any chances of
> getting accepted into the TDF.


Their next race was supposed to be the Dauphine in June. That they are
not race ready now is not a surprise.
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Old 06-05.-2008, 06:15 PM   #6
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Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
> > Contador and Leiphiemier have said they are not fully ready for the
> > Giro. This is a bit of surprise considering how late in the season it
> > is. If Astana does not peform well this could dampen any chances of
> > getting accepted into the TDF.

>
> This isn't about getting into the TdF. They gave up on that some time ago.
> But if they can "stick it to the man" by doing exceptionally well in the
> Giro and Vuelta, they'd be quite happy, I'm sure.
>

Astana has always had hopes of still being selected for this years
TDF. My point is that they shoud have been ready regardless.

> --Mike Jacoubowsky
> Chain Reaction Bicycles
> www.ChainReaction.com
> Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

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Old 06-05.-2008, 06:17 PM   #7
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The Dauphine Libre is a ASO event so chances are Astana would not be
allowed to enter.

Kyle Legate wrote:
> hizark21 wrote:
> > Contador and Leiphiemier have said they are not fully ready for the
> > Giro. This is a bit of surprise considering how late in the season it
> > is. If Astana does not peform well this could dampen any chances of
> > getting accepted into the TDF.

>
> Their next race was supposed to be the Dauphine in June. That they are
> not race ready now is not a surprise.

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Old 06-05.-2008, 06:24 PM   #8
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hizark21 wrote:

> The Dauphine Libre is a ASO event so chances are Astana would not be
> allowed to enter.


They are entered:
<http://startlist.cyclingfever.com/startlist.html?_p=startlijst&id=18879>

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Old 06-05.-2008, 07:50 PM   #9
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On Tue, 6 May 2008 02:15:06 -0700 (PDT), hizark21 <hizark21@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>
>
>Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
>> > Contador and Leiphiemier have said they are not fully ready for the
>> > Giro. This is a bit of surprise considering how late in the season it
>> > is. If Astana does not peform well this could dampen any chances of
>> > getting accepted into the TDF.

>>
>> This isn't about getting into the TdF. They gave up on that some time ago.
>> But if they can "stick it to the man" by doing exceptionally well in the
>> Giro and Vuelta, they'd be quite happy, I'm sure.
>>

>Astana has always had hopes of still being selected for this years
>TDF. My point is that they shoud have been ready regardless.


You don't really understand structured training is you think being
ready -- really ready, as in peaking -- for a race this weekend is the
same as being ready for a race in six weeks.
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Old 06-05.-2008, 10:10 PM   #10
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hizark21 wrote:
> The Dauphine Libre is a ASO event so chances are Astana would not be
> allowed to enter.


While it may seem at times that ASO runs all races in France,
the Dauphine is not one of theirs.

Bob Schwartz
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Old 07-05.-2008, 12:12 AM   #11
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On Tue, 06 May 2008 08:11:11 +0200, Kyle Legate <legatek@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>hizark21 wrote:
>> Contador and Leiphiemier have said they are not fully ready for the
>> Giro. This is a bit of surprise considering how late in the season it
>> is. If Astana does not peform well this could dampen any chances of
>> getting accepted into the TDF.

>
>Their next race was supposed to be the Dauphine in June. That they are
>not race ready now is not a surprise.


hum..."race ready" what can that mean...

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Old 07-05.-2008, 05:20 AM   #12
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hizark21 wrote:
> Contador and Leiphiemier have said they are not fully ready for the
> Giro. This is a bit of surprise considering how late in the season it
> is. If Astana does not peform well this could dampen any chances of
> getting accepted into the TDF.


As others have said, it is no surprise that Astana is not fully ready
for a race they were not entered in until a couple of days ago.

Now, if they show up and ride the Giro, and if the ASO (that acronym
reminds me of a derogatory word in English) caves and accepts them for
the TdF (right now, they are the only grand tour that isn't allowing
last year's Tour winner and third place rider to enter - seems kind of
stupid, not to mention actionable), I would expect the TdF prospects to
ride as much of the Giro as will aid their TdF preparation, and then
drop out, citing the always popular food poisoning excuse, or something
similar.
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Old 07-05.-2008, 06:58 AM   #13
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On May 6, 10:12*am, Keith <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:

> hum..."race ready" what can that mean...



It's a lot like "super motivated."

-rj
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Old 07-05.-2008, 08:05 AM   #14
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hizark21 wrote:
> The Dauphine Libre is a ASO event so chances are Astana would not be
> allowed to enter.
>

That's what I thought too, but:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php...ay08/may05news2

Under the heading "Contador with "Unknown Form"".
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Old 07-05.-2008, 08:14 AM   #15
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On Tue, 6 May 2008 14:58:24 -0700 (PDT), ronaldo_jeremiah
<ronaldo_jeremiah@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On May 6, 10:12Â*am, Keith <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> hum..."race ready" what can that mean...

>
>
>It's a lot like "super motivated."


possibly or
1. "vitamiins" haven't kicked in yet"
2. "vitamiins still traceable"...

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