Judge Judy again

Pat

Yesterday, there was a cyclist-attacked-by-dog story on Judge Judy.

Defense?
1. My pit bull hasn't been trained to be mean.
2. My pit bull is so sweet he is afraid to leave our property line.
3. My pit bull hasn't ever done anything like this before.
3. Our gate was closed, but he could have squeezed out under the barbed wire
fence--maybe.
4. The cyclist is just trying to extort money from us.
5. I didn't see any damage to the bike.
6. I didn't see any "road rash" on the cyclist.
7. The policeman wrote down that 2 dogs had chased him instead of one, so
that makes the entire report false.
8. After the cyclist got an estimate from the bike shop, the bike shop owner
called me and personally told me the guy was just trying to make money off
of us.

Result: pay for the damage.

Pat in TX

bob syr

On Jun 12, 10:28*pm, "Pat" <ex...@tmail.com> wrote:
> Yesterday, there was a cyclist-attacked-by-dog story on Judge Judy.
>
> Defense?
> 1. My pit bull hasn't been trained to be mean.
> 2. My pit bull is so sweet he is afraid to leave our property line.
> 3. My pit bull hasn't ever done anything like this before.
> 3. Our gate was closed, but he could have squeezed out under the barbed wire
> fence--maybe.
> 4. The cyclist is just trying to extort money from us.
> 5. I didn't see any damage to the bike.
> 6. I didn't see any "road rash" on the cyclist.
> 7. The policeman wrote down that 2 dogs had chased him instead of one, so
> that makes the entire report false.
> 8. After the cyclist got an estimate from the bike shop, the bike shop owner
> called me and personally told me the guy was just trying to make money off
> of us.
>
> Result: *pay for the damage.
>
> Pat in TX

A different judge might have made a whole different ruling. I've only
been riding for about a year. Concerning dogs, I've found so far that
ringing the bell seems to be a pleasing sound to dogs. One
neighborhood dog two houses down used to bark his head off as I got my
bike out of the garage and left. Now as soon as the dog starts to
bark, I give the bell a ching and voila, no more barking. It also
happened on my ride a few times. When dogs bark I give them a ching
on the bell and it seems to sooth them. So far I haven't been chased,
so I don't know what would happen in that eventuality. I think maybe
dogs find the high tones in the bell comforting. Ride on!

Bob Syr

alanstew@sbcglobal.net

On Jun 13, 6:43*pm, bob syr <rcran...@syr.edu> wrote:
Snip
>*Concerning dogs, I've found so far that
> ringing the bell seems to be a pleasing sound to dogs. *One
> neighborhood dog two houses down used to bark his head off as I got my
> bike out of the garage and left. *Now as soon as the dog starts to
> bark, I give the bell a ching and voila, no more barking. *It also
> happened on my ride a few times. *When dogs bark I give them a ching
> on the bell and it seems to sooth them. *So far I haven't been chased,
> so I don't know what would happen in that eventuality. *I think maybe
> dogs find the high tones in the bell comforting. *Ride on!
>
> Bob Syr

Bob....interesting, I'll remember this...I'll bet it will also work
for coyotes.
Wonder about mountain lions, do you think it would work on them?
Also, the bell I've got just goes "bing" not "biddle dee ding" like
the one I had as a kid.
Wonder if the doggies or the lions would respond differently depending
on which one they hear.
Cheers,
ABS

Tom Keats

In article <35b876ff-343f-4a3e-a59e-6221bf458cda@t12g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
alanstew@sbcglobal.net writes:
> On Jun 13, 6:43*pm, bob syr <rcran...@syr.edu> wrote:
> Snip
>>*Concerning dogs, I've found so far that
>> ringing the bell seems to be a pleasing sound to dogs. *One
>> neighborhood dog two houses down used to bark his head off as I got my
>> bike out of the garage and left. *Now as soon as the dog starts to
>> bark, I give the bell a ching and voila, no more barking. *It also
>> happened on my ride a few times. *When dogs bark I give them a ching
>> on the bell and it seems to sooth them. *So far I haven't been chased,
>> so I don't know what would happen in that eventuality. *I think maybe
>> dogs find the high tones in the bell comforting. *Ride on!
>>
>> Bob Syr
> Bob....interesting, I'll remember this...I'll bet it will also work
> for coyotes.
> Wonder about mountain lions, do you think it would work on them?

That would depend on whether they're city catamounts, or
country ones.

According to some native North American folklore, cougars
contain the spirits of former humans who were not very
nice people, and being reincarnated as a cougar is a
damnation for having been a miserable, miserly, judgmental,
crusty ol' SOB in human life. In Chinook Jargon cougars are
referred-to as "hyas puss-puss." That means "big pussy."

Cougars like to jump their victims from above and behind, so
you probably wouldn't get a chance to ring your bell anyway.

And I'm told shrill noises such as humanly-uttered shrieks
can enrage them.

> Also, the bell I've got just goes "bing" not "biddle dee ding" like
> the one I had as a kid.

I hate those ping-y bells. The noise they create sets my
teeth on edge. It's like when a fire alarm bell first tries
to ring, and then stops to think about maybe continuing with
more gusto.

> Wonder if the doggies or the lions would respond differently depending
> on which one they hear.

With a lot of city dogs, when they seem to give chase they're
really trying to form a pack with you. If you stop, they
stop too, in a somewhat bewildered and puzzled state. They
sit down in the middle of the street, flappy tongue hanging
out, and eyes looking expectantly at you, while in the backs
of their minds they wonder if they committed some sort of
faux paw.

I've turned the tables on many ankle-biter city dogs, and
chased them right back -- just to convey the message that
the middle of the street isn't the best place for them
to be in.


cheers,
Tom

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I'm really at:
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alanstew@sbcglobal.net

On Jun 13, 9:32*pm, tkeats2...@hotmail.com (Tom Keats) wrote:

> Cougars like to jump their victims from above and behind, so
> you probably wouldn't get a chance to ring your bell anyway.

So checking my mirror as much as I do is probably useless unless I
angle it just so, or get a second 'mountain-lions' only mirror and set
it for up and behind...


> With a lot of city dogs, when they seem to give chase they're
> really trying to form a pack with you. *If you stop, they
> stop too, in a somewhat bewildered and puzzled state. *They
> sit down in the middle of the street, flappy tongue hanging
> out, and eyes looking expectantly at you, while in the backs
> of their minds they wonder if they committed some sort of
> faux paw.
SOL (Snorting out loud!!)

And more cheers,
ABS

max

In article
<4406365f-5ecf-4d2a-bb40-235addd3ff0d@z16g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
alanstew@sbcglobal.net wrote:

> > Cougars like to jump their victims from above and behind, so
> > you probably wouldn't get a chance to ring your bell anyway.
>
> So checking my mirror as much as I do is probably useless unless I
> angle it just so, or get a second 'mountain-lions' only mirror and set
> it for up and behind...

draw BIG EYES on the back of your jersey. It throws them off.

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their signatures contact information, and perhaps a joke or quotation.

bob syr

On Jun 13, 11:33*pm, alans...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
> On Jun 13, 6:43*pm, bob syr <rcran...@syr.edu> wrote:
> Snip
>
> >*Concerning dogs, I've found so far that
> > ringing the bell seems to be a pleasing sound to dogs. *One
> > neighborhood dog two houses down used to bark his head off as I got my
> > bike out of the garage and left. *Now as soon as the dog starts to
> > bark, I give the bell a ching and voila, no more barking. *It also
> > happened on my ride a few times. *When dogs bark I give them a ching
> > on the bell and it seems to sooth them. *So far I haven't been chased,
> > so I don't know what would happen in that eventuality. *I think maybe
> > dogs find the high tones in the bell comforting. *Ride on!
>
> > Bob Syr
>
> Bob....interesting, I'll remember this...I'll bet it will also work
> for coyotes.
> Wonder about mountain lions, do you think it would work on them?
> Also, the bell I've got just goes "bing" not "biddle dee ding" like
> the one I had as a kid.
> Wonder if the doggies or the lions would respond differently depending
> on which one they hear.
> Cheers,
> ABS

Had no idea what a clever invention the bell is. It repels all
animals (except dogs and cats). To date I've never seen a rhino, or
crocodile on my bike run. - Bob

Brian Huntley

On Jun 14, 10:02 pm, bob syr <rcran...@syr.edu> wrote:
> Had no idea what a clever invention the bell is. It repels all
> animals (except dogs and cats). To date I've never seen a rhino, or
> crocodile on my bike run. - Bob

You obviously don't ride where Carl F. rides.

Zoot Katz

On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:20:48 -0500, max <betatron@earthlink.net>
wrote:

>In article
><4406365f-5ecf-4d2a-bb40-235addd3ff0d@z16g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
> alanstew@sbcglobal.net wrote:
>
>> > Cougars like to jump their victims from above and behind, so
>> > you probably wouldn't get a chance to ring your bell anyway.
>>
>> So checking my mirror as much as I do is probably useless unless I
>> angle it just so, or get a second 'mountain-lions' only mirror and set
>> it for up and behind...
>
>draw BIG EYES on the back of your jersey. It throws them off.

In parts of India, the last man in a line of honey gatherers or
woodsmen wears a backward facing mask to fool the tigers.
--
zk

Zoot Katz

On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:28:49 -0700 (PDT), Brian Huntley
<brian_huntley@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Jun 14, 10:02 pm, bob syr <rcran...@syr.edu> wrote:
>> Had no idea what a clever invention the bell is. It repels all
>> animals (except dogs and cats). To date I've never seen a rhino, or
>> crocodile on my bike run. - Bob
>
>You obviously don't ride where Carl F. rides.

My bell repells pigs. The "no-bell prize" is a $75 fine,
Skunks don't like it either.
--
zk

ZBicyclist

Tom Keats wrote:
>
> According to some native North American folklore, cougars
> contain the spirits of former humans who were not very
> nice people, and being reincarnated as a cougar is a
> damnation for having been a miserable, miserly, judgmental,
> crusty ol' SOB in human life. In Chinook Jargon cougars are
> referred-to as "hyas puss-puss." That means "big pussy."
>
> Cougars like to jump their victims from above and behind, so
> you probably wouldn't get a chance to ring your bell anyway.

This makes me wonder about that cougar who wandered down through
Wisconsin and was finally shot in downtown Chicago. Was this some
old Chicago politician come back to settle some scores?

Paul O

Zoot Katz wrote, On 6/15/2008 3:42 AM:
> On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:28:49 -0700 (PDT), Brian Huntley
> <brian_huntley@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>> On Jun 14, 10:02 pm, bob syr <rcran...@syr.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Had no idea what a clever invention the bell is. It repels all
>>> animals (except dogs and cats). To date I've never seen a rhino, or
>>> crocodile on my bike run. - Bob
>>>
>> You obviously don't ride where Carl F. rides.
>>
>
> My bell repells pigs. The "no-bell prize" is a $75 fine,
> Skunks don't like it either.
>
My bell repels flying pigs. I've never had a problem with them in all
the years I've been riding...

--

Paul D Oosterhout
I work for SAIC (but I don't speak for SAIC)

Zoot Katz

On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:00:44 -0400, Paul O <first.d.last@company.com>
wrote:

>Zoot Katz wrote, On 6/15/2008 3:42 AM:
>> On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:28:49 -0700 (PDT), Brian Huntley
>> <brian_huntley@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On Jun 14, 10:02 pm, bob syr <rcran...@syr.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Had no idea what a clever invention the bell is. It repels all
>>>> animals (except dogs and cats). To date I've never seen a rhino, or
>>>> crocodile on my bike run. - Bob
>>>>
>>> You obviously don't ride where Carl F. rides.
>>>
>>
>> My bell repells pigs. The "no-bell prize" is a $75 fine,
>> Skunks don't like it either.
>>
>My bell repels flying pigs. I've never had a problem with them in all
>the years I've been riding...

That's why I wear a deflector beanie. . . just in case.
I know it wards off bears, city pigs and zealots.
--
zk