Mountain Biker Admits He Doesn't See Wildlife When Biking

Mike Vandeman

Notice that even though the birds gave a clear signal that they
weren't welcome, they are even recommending that their friends also go
there!

Mike


Sat, 14 Jun 2008:
From: "Steve Pelton" <stevepelton@comcast.net>
Subject: Grand Ridge Aviary

Grandma was watching the kiddies so my wife and I hiked Grand Ridge
from the
Duthie side. As we got to the top of the first hill and went around a
noticeable log roller we spotted a large grey owl about 30' ahead in a
low
tree. It was staring us down big time which is when we heard the
hissing
noises from to our left where there was another owl. Then we heard
what
sounded like more hissing to the right so we decided to move on.

Went to the top of the second hill ( 1 hour total), returned to the
aviary
and there they were again. Only this time all three were in the same
tree
within 10' feet of each other - it was cool and they were big. Then we
saw
a fourth flying to our right. We took some bad pictures with my phone
and
moved on. But they started following us; swooping through the trees.
We
rounded a corner and heard the hissing. We spotted one directly above
us
puffing its feathers. Then the other three joined and continued the
assault.

It was one of the wildest nature encounters I've had; like an
interactive
zoo. My guess is they are guarding chicks and will be there for
awhile.
Keep your eyes open and you might catch them. It's between the first
dirt-bridge and the only real log roller; well before the bog with the
4x6
crossing, about 30min hike/20min bike. If you know/are a good
photographer,
might be a good opportunity.

Funny thing is I probably would never have noticed on my bike. Happy
Father's/Flag day!

Steve
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

Jeff Strickland

I don't know what he's looking at, I see all of the wildlife as I drive
through remote backcountry areas in my Jeep. I'm constantly looking all
around, I'd guess that I might look around far more than I look at trail
ahead. To be sure, there is far more stuff to see off the trail than on.

The irony in your post, Mike, is that the person telling the story of his
adventure was actually HIKING when he exprienced one of the most memorial
events of his life.

PS
I once worked in a building that had a pair of hawks raising a nest of
chicks on the building next door. They would circle the parking lot. The
point is, transient humans in any form, are not a threat to birds. Other
birds are a much bigger problem.





"Mike Vandeman" <mjvande@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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> Notice that even though the birds gave a clear signal that they
> weren't welcome, they are even recommending that their friends also go
> there!
>
> Mike
>
>
> Sat, 14 Jun 2008:
> From: "Steve Pelton" <stevepelton@comcast.net>
> Subject: Grand Ridge Aviary
>
> Grandma was watching the kiddies so my wife and I hiked Grand Ridge
> from the
> Duthie side. As we got to the top of the first hill and went around a
> noticeable log roller we spotted a large grey owl about 30' ahead in a
> low
> tree. It was staring us down big time which is when we heard the
> hissing
> noises from to our left where there was another owl. Then we heard
> what
> sounded like more hissing to the right so we decided to move on.
>
> Went to the top of the second hill ( 1 hour total), returned to the
> aviary
> and there they were again. Only this time all three were in the same
> tree
> within 10' feet of each other - it was cool and they were big. Then we
> saw
> a fourth flying to our right. We took some bad pictures with my phone
> and
> moved on. But they started following us; swooping through the trees.
> We
> rounded a corner and heard the hissing. We spotted one directly above
> us
> puffing its feathers. Then the other three joined and continued the
> assault.
>
> It was one of the wildest nature encounters I've had; like an
> interactive
> zoo. My guess is they are guarding chicks and will be there for
> awhile.
> Keep your eyes open and you might catch them. It's between the first
> dirt-bridge and the only real log roller; well before the bog with the
> 4x6
> crossing, about 30min hike/20min bike. If you know/are a good
> photographer,
> might be a good opportunity.
>
> Funny thing is I probably would never have noticed on my bike. Happy
> Father's/Flag day!
>
> Steve
> --
> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
> humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
> years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
>
> Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are
> fond of!
>
> http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

Mike Vandeman

On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 15:43:14 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
<crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:

>I don't know what he's looking at, I see all of the wildlife as I drive
>through remote backcountry areas in my Jeep. I'm constantly looking all
>around,

So you admit that you are a hazard to other drivers, pedestrians, and
wildlife. Why should anyone listen to you?????

I'd guess that I might look around far more than I look at trail
>ahead. To be sure, there is far more stuff to see off the trail than on.
>
>The irony in your post, Mike, is that the person telling the story of his
>adventure was actually HIKING when he exprienced one of the most memorial
>events of his life.

He is a mountain biker, so these attitudes represent mountain bikers.
And people stoopid enouth to drive a Jeep.

>PS
>I once worked in a building that had a pair of hawks raising a nest of
>chicks on the building next door. They would circle the parking lot. The
>point is, transient humans in any form, are not a threat to birds. Other
>birds are a much bigger problem.
>
>
>
>
>
>"Mike Vandeman" <mjvande@pacbell.net> wrote in message
>news:t2b954phj2fcq8g0kd6ku5d6r6063ro7mm@4ax.com...
>> Notice that even though the birds gave a clear signal that they
>> weren't welcome, they are even recommending that their friends also go
>> there!
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> Sat, 14 Jun 2008:
>> From: "Steve Pelton" <stevepelton@comcast.net>
>> Subject: Grand Ridge Aviary
>>
>> Grandma was watching the kiddies so my wife and I hiked Grand Ridge
>> from the
>> Duthie side. As we got to the top of the first hill and went around a
>> noticeable log roller we spotted a large grey owl about 30' ahead in a
>> low
>> tree. It was staring us down big time which is when we heard the
>> hissing
>> noises from to our left where there was another owl. Then we heard
>> what
>> sounded like more hissing to the right so we decided to move on.
>>
>> Went to the top of the second hill ( 1 hour total), returned to the
>> aviary
>> and there they were again. Only this time all three were in the same
>> tree
>> within 10' feet of each other - it was cool and they were big. Then we
>> saw
>> a fourth flying to our right. We took some bad pictures with my phone
>> and
>> moved on. But they started following us; swooping through the trees.
>> We
>> rounded a corner and heard the hissing. We spotted one directly above
>> us
>> puffing its feathers. Then the other three joined and continued the
>> assault.
>>
>> It was one of the wildest nature encounters I've had; like an
>> interactive
>> zoo. My guess is they are guarding chicks and will be there for
>> awhile.
>> Keep your eyes open and you might catch them. It's between the first
>> dirt-bridge and the only real log roller; well before the bog with the
>> 4x6
>> crossing, about 30min hike/20min bike. If you know/are a good
>> photographer,
>> might be a good opportunity.
>>
>> Funny thing is I probably would never have noticed on my bike. Happy
>> Father's/Flag day!
>>
>> Steve
>> --
>> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
>> humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
>> years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
>>
>> Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are
>> fond of!
>>
>> http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

Ryan Robbins

"Mike Vandeman" <mjvande@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 15:43:14 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
> <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>I don't know what he's looking at, I see all of the wildlife as I drive
>>through remote backcountry areas in my Jeep. I'm constantly looking all
>>around,
>
> So you admit that you are a hazard to other drivers, pedestrians, and
> wildlife. Why should anyone listen to you?????

Good drivers are always aware of their surroundings. Bad drivers tend to
have tunnel vision and miss wayward kids on skateboards or bicycles, people
running stop signs, and other drivers tailgating.

Jeff Strickland

"Mike Vandeman" <mjvande@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 15:43:14 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
> <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>I don't know what he's looking at, I see all of the wildlife as I drive
>>through remote backcountry areas in my Jeep. I'm constantly looking all
>>around,
>
> So you admit that you are a hazard to other drivers, pedestrians, and
> wildlife. Why should anyone listen to you?????
>

No, I would suggest that I am less of a hazard than you are. I never ever
advocate stringing piano wire across a trail, like you have done. I guess it
doesn't really matter though, nobody listens to you -- except for your
whack-job peers that supposedly contribute to your inane Website.

Jeff Strickland

"Ryan Robbins" <redbird007@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Mike Vandeman" <mjvande@pacbell.net> wrote in message
> news:r73e54hks05jur90kg7vqu2qt7ndmfcf5a@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 15:43:14 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
>> <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>>I don't know what he's looking at, I see all of the wildlife as I drive
>>>through remote backcountry areas in my Jeep. I'm constantly looking all
>>>around,
>>
>> So you admit that you are a hazard to other drivers, pedestrians, and
>> wildlife. Why should anyone listen to you?????
>
> Good drivers are always aware of their surroundings. Bad drivers tend to
> have tunnel vision and miss wayward kids on skateboards or bicycles,
> people running stop signs, and other drivers tailgating.
>

It stops being backcountry when one has to watch for that sort of stuff. The
ability to spot an eagle or a big horn sheep does tend to exercise the
qualities needed to see kids on a skateboard though ...

Mike Vandeman

On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 20:58:29 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
<crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:

>
>"Mike Vandeman" <mjvande@pacbell.net> wrote in message
>news:r73e54hks05jur90kg7vqu2qt7ndmfcf5a@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 15:43:14 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
>> <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>>I don't know what he's looking at, I see all of the wildlife as I drive
>>>through remote backcountry areas in my Jeep. I'm constantly looking all
>>>around,
>>
>> So you admit that you are a hazard to other drivers, pedestrians, and
>> wildlife. Why should anyone listen to you?????
>>
>
>No, I would suggest that I am less of a hazard than you are. I never ever
>advocate stringing piano wire across a trail, like you have done.

BS. You are an incorrigible LIAR, like all mountain bikers.
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

Siskuwihane

Anyone have any wild game recipes they want to share?

the Moderator

"Siskuwihane" <Siskuwihane1@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Anyone have any wild game recipes they want to share?

LOL, I have several, but you left out the vegan newsgroup :-)

Wayne

"Siskuwihane" <Siskuwihane1@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Anyone have any wild game recipes they want to share?
The old Texas recipe for armadillo, perhaps?
1. Soak a pine board in pineapple juice for 2 hours
2. Nail the armadillo to the board
3. Stand the board next to a campfire for 1 hour
4. Remove the armadillo, and eat the board.

Jeff Strickland

"Mike Vandeman" <mjvande@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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>>
>>No, I would suggest that I am less of a hazard than you are. I never ever
>>advocate stringing piano wire across a trail, like you have done.
>
> BS. You are an incorrigible LIAR, like all mountain bikers.


Then why do you advocate stringing piano wire across the trail, or purposely
placing sharpened sticks in such a manner that the only result can be an
injured bicycle rider?

Mike Vandeman

On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 01:08:25 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
<crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:

>
>"Mike Vandeman" <mjvande@pacbell.net> wrote in message
>news:0kmg54hqrlsmq9b5fb632gbgk2reqpv1lh@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>No, I would suggest that I am less of a hazard than you are. I never ever
>>>advocate stringing piano wire across a trail, like you have done.
>>
>> BS. You are an incorrigible LIAR, like all mountain bikers.
>
>
>Then why do you advocate stringing piano wire across the trail, or purposely
>placing sharpened sticks in such a manner that the only result can be an
>injured bicycle rider?

I don't, LIAR.
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

the Moderator

"Wayne" <mygarbagecan@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Siskuwihane" <Siskuwihane1@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:05819f34-1715-4462-a214-79dc0ac092a6@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>> Anyone have any wild game recipes they want to share?
> The old Texas recipe for armadillo, perhaps?
> 1. Soak a pine board in pineapple juice for 2 hours
> 2. Nail the armadillo to the board
> 3. Stand the board next to a campfire for 1 hour
> 4. Remove the armadillo, and eat the board.

Actually armadillo is pretty good and they are easy to catch.

Siskuwihane

On Jun 18, 7:14*pm, "Wayne" <mygarbage...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "Siskuwihane" <Siskuwiha...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:05819f34-1715-4462-a214-79dc0ac092a6@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...> Anyone have any wild game recipes they want to share?
>
> The old Texas recipe for armadillo, perhaps?
> 1. Soak a pine board in pineapple juice for 2 hours
> 2. Nail the armadillo to the board
> 3. *Stand the board next to a campfire for 1 hour
> 4. *Remove the armadillo, and eat the board.

That's the same recipe for pike.