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Re: Weight on the bike

 
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Old 24-06.-2008, 07:22 AM   #1
Robert Chung
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On Jun 23, 11:15*am, "joseph.santanie...@gmail.com"
<joseph.santanie...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 23, 4:22*pm, Robert Chung <rech...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Make it to Oslo with the group?

>
> Nope. I was feeling great up until about 6 hours in. Then I didn't
> have any energy. That was when we got to the flat parts and we had a
> good tailwind too. I should have been in my element, but I was fried.
> So rather than stuggle to hang on, when I had wanted to help set the
> pace, I let go and took it alone for the last 260km. They managed
> 15:22, I was 17:43. Best time was 13:32. I still managed over 30 km/h
> for my 260 solo despite several stops including a gas station where I
> ate 2 pastries, 2 yogurts, and drank 2 cokes!
>
> I had fuel issues related to a too tight jacket I think!


Must be. Couldn't have been weight. Fogel has shown that 3 extra kg
makes a negligible difference in time or speed.

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Old 24-06.-2008, 09:00 AM   #2
Fred Fredburger
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Robert Chung wrote:
> On Jun 23, 11:15 am, "joseph.santanie...@gmail.com"
> <joseph.santanie...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Jun 23, 4:22 pm, Robert Chung <rech...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Make it to Oslo with the group?

>> Nope. I was feeling great up until about 6 hours in. Then I didn't
>> have any energy. That was when we got to the flat parts and we had a
>> good tailwind too. I should have been in my element, but I was fried.
>> So rather than stuggle to hang on, when I had wanted to help set the
>> pace, I let go and took it alone for the last 260km. They managed
>> 15:22, I was 17:43. Best time was 13:32. I still managed over 30 km/h
>> for my 260 solo despite several stops including a gas station where I
>> ate 2 pastries, 2 yogurts, and drank 2 cokes!
>>
>> I had fuel issues related to a too tight jacket I think!

>
> Must be. Couldn't have been weight. Fogel has shown that 3 extra kg
> makes a negligible difference in time or speed.
>


Right. This is why I skip the Silca pumps and CO2 cartridges in favor
of a gasoline powered air compressor.
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Old 24-06.-2008, 09:15 AM   #3
jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org
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Fred Fredburger wrote:

>>>> Make it to Oslo with the group?


>>> Nope. I was feeling great up until about 6 hours in. Then I
>>> didn't have any energy. That was when we got to the flat parts
>>> and we had a good tailwind too. I should have been in my element,
>>> but I was fried. So rather than struggle to hang on, when I had
>>> wanted to help set the pace, I let go and took it alone for the
>>> last 260km. They managed 15:22, I was 17:43. Best time was
>>> 13:32. I still managed over 30 km/h for my 260 solo despite
>>> several stops including a gas station where I ate 2 pastries, 2
>>> yogurts, and drank 2 cokes!


>>> I had fuel issues related to a too tight jacket I think!


>> Must be. Couldn't have been weight. Fogel has shown that 3 extra
>> kg makes a negligible difference in time or speed.


> Right. This is why I skip the Silca pumps and CO2 cartridges in favor
> of a gasoline powered air compressor.


Where do you carry that on your bicycle? I ride over many hills and
would not like the extra weight, as great as what I imagine such a
device has. I take it you don't get flat tires on your rides.

Jobst Brandt
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Old 24-06.-2008, 09:24 AM   #4
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On Jun 23, 5:00*pm, Fred Fredburger
<FredFredbur...@Where.Are.The.Nachos> wrote:

> Right. This is why I skip the Silca pumps and CO2 cartridges in *favor
> of a gasoline powered air compressor.


I use electric. The compressor is much lighter. The extension cord can
be kind of a pain, though.
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Old 24-06.-2008, 09:50 AM   #5
riggodeezil@hotmail.com
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On Jun 23, 8:24*pm, Robert Chung <rech...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 23, 5:00*pm, Fred Fredburger
>
> <FredFredbur...@Where.Are.The.Nachos> wrote:
> > Right. This is why I skip the Silca pumps and CO2 cartridges in *favor
> > of a gasoline powered air compressor.

>
> I use electric. The compressor is much lighter. The extension cord can
> be kind of a pain, though.


Use bat-reez instead. Keeps the cars from running over your extension
cord when you make sharp turns.
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Old 24-06.-2008, 09:53 AM   #6
SLAVE of THE STATE
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On Jun 23, 5:24*pm, Robert Chung <rech...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 23, 5:00*pm, Fred Fredburger
>
> <FredFredbur...@Where.Are.The.Nachos> wrote:
> > Right. This is why I skip the Silca pumps and CO2 cartridges in *favor
> > of a gasoline powered air compressor.

>
> I use electric. The compressor is much lighter. The extension cord can
> be kind of a pain, though.


I got a 1.2 kW (peak) generator at Pep-Boys for $89, if that would
help.
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Old 24-06.-2008, 03:54 PM   #7
joseph.santaniello@gmail.com
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On Jun 24, 12:22*am, Robert Chung <rech...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 23, 11:15*am, "joseph.santanie...@gmail.com"
>
> <joseph.santanie...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Jun 23, 4:22*pm, Robert Chung <rech...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> > > Make it to Oslo with the group?

>
> > Nope. I was feeling great up until about 6 hours in. Then I didn't
> > have any energy. That was when we got to the flat parts and we had a
> > good tailwind too. I should have been in my element, but I was fried.
> > So rather than stuggle to hang on, when I had wanted to help set the
> > pace, I let go and took it alone for the last 260km. They managed
> > 15:22, I was 17:43. Best time was 13:32. I still managed over 30 km/h
> > for my 260 solo despite several stops including a gas station where I
> > ate 2 pastries, 2 yogurts, and drank 2 cokes!

>
> > I had fuel issues related to a too tight jacket I think!

>
> Must be. Couldn't have been weight. Fogel has shown that 3 extra kg
> makes a negligible difference in time or speed.


All up weight at start was about 13kg less than last year. But a 3XL
waterlogged jacket probably does weigh about 3kg however!

Joseph
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Old 25-06.-2008, 12:40 AM   #8
Bob Schwartz
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Fred Fredburger wrote:
> Right. This is why I skip the Silca pumps and CO2 cartridges in favor
> of a gasoline powered air compressor.


http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000N4WFFQ...20&linkCode=asn

They're coming out with a titanium version for cyclists.

Bob Schwartz
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