Carmichael Training System...anybody use it?

lindykid

I was looking into it and wondered if anybody here is using it or has used it.

Duckwah

i've got the book and its not too bad but he's put trademarks and fancy names on a lot of stuff every cycling coach will tell you to do. The actual coaching service looks pretty expensive so i suppose it depends on how serious you are.

undoubtably you will pay extra for the name

hehe and ric will probably try and get you to sign up for his coaching instead

easyrider

Duckwah,

I understand that you are joking but...

Ric does sponsor a section of the forum we are using and he "gives out" a lot of good information through his posts.

If I was going to try to take my riding to another level and wanted coaching help, I know where I would go.

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Duckwah

in no way was i trying to have a go at Ric, his posts are first rate and he's essentially giving away a lot of valuable training to forum members for free.

the point of my post was to say that i think CTS is probably a little overpriced since its the system "lance" uses and of course celebrities are good for advertising.

if i was looking for a coach i'd be talking to Ric too, i don't agree with everything he says but i'll admit he has heaps more experience with cycling than I do.

lindykid

Thanks for the info guys. I kind of got that impresion from the CTS stuff sense it is USPS certified...or whatever you want to call it. I will look at ric's stuff also...I duno if this all just a waist of time however. I am really looking for some sort of guidence in training in the biking world...I come from a track and X-country background.

ric_stern/RST

Lindykid,

Please feel free to contact me either by email (ric@cyclecoach.com), private message, or directly on the board and i'll do my best to answer any questions you might have about my service. As an aside, i coach riders from beginners up to pros, so i'm sure i can help!

Ric

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easyrider

Duckwah,

Yeah, we're on the same page.

I did meet Carmichael at the Saturn Cycling Classic last summer and he seemed like a nice guy. I just don't buy into the idea that any one coach knows more than the rest of the coaching world. I used to coach distance runners and had great results but there were a million coaches that know as much as I do. I just was lucky enough to be in the right place with the right kids. Carmichael works with Lance and so his image is enhanced. That doesn't mean that his system is worth more than another proven coach's.

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lindykid

What is considered old in the biking world? I am 25 and it seems once you hit your early 30's you are toast.

In running it is completly different...you can be 40 and still kick the pants off of some phenome in his teens or 20's

I am just currious.

EDIT: Ric, I will email you when I get home. Which means you will be asleep when I do ;P

easyrider

What's old?

I'm about to find out. I'm a thirty year old student about to start the racing season with a team of college kids. After five years teaching high school I decided to go back and get a Ph.D. and that allows me race with the college club team.

The guys are eight to eleven years younger than I am. They clearly can generate more power when they go "all out" but I think that I train a little harder/smarter than most and have pretty good staying power.

Anyway, they are good fun to train with and if they out-race me, so what? We are on the same team after all. If my job is to ride tempo or lead-out, then so be it.

I do know that I don't recover as fast as years ago. But knowing that it is only likely to get worse over the years makes me enjoy the strength that I have now.

Don't pile the dirt on me yet!

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lindykid

hehe, o.k.

I was not trying offend anybody...I have been competing my whole life and the idea of slowing down sucks...that is just because I am young and dumb...heh.

I feel I have missed most of my race days because I was working computer crap straight out of high school...so I missed from 18 -25...

kind of has me down...but I guess I am just being hard on my self

GearGrinder

was reading in the cycling mag about a bloke (thorsten whilliehms) who turned pro at about 30. He then won the tour of quatar. so dont give up

steve

Don't forget the old strongman of the peleton...Ludo Dierckxsens, he was another late starter (I think he used to work in a shoe factory)

cheers

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Don

I signed up for CTS Sport Training at $30 per month. It has been good for me. I started last September and have rode all winter. That alone took some discipline, living in northeast US, Maine. You don't get that much custom info; but the program on the computer, a member forum and weekly calls to a coach. That has been enough for me. I have not been out to race or timetrial yet, but I know I am stronger and have more endurance. Before I started this program I usually rode too hard and did not have the consistency in my training. You can get most of the program from Carmichael's book. Don.

Don

PS to my post. I didn't see the references to age in the last few replies. I am 54 years old and using CTS to train for the Senior Olympics in May this year. I hope it works. Don.