I posted earlier comparing the 2009 Allez to the 2010. Well Spokes is now out of the 2010s and my local shop didn't budge on price ($1200 for 2009 vs. $1000 for 2010). The 2009 is actually a nicer bike. I was visting the bike shop trying to figure out what I wanted, the salesman/owner introduces me to a used 2009 Defy Advanced for $1300. I wouldn't have known it was used unless he told me. I'm thinking full carbon for $1300 is a decent score. But I am a total noob and would like to throw it out to you guys & gals for comment.