Probably into the ER with 3rd degree burns.danfoz said:I'm going to dance naked around a bonfire the night before Battenkill and see where it gets me.
Not believing the positive (that he does exist) doesn't imply belief in the negative (that he doesn't exist). There are varying degrees of certainty and doubt.Originally Posted by limerickman
I've no doubt that Satan exists and that there are many who are party to his machinations.
The greatest achievement is his attempt to dupe mankind in to believing that he doesn't exist and that there is no such thing as sin.
Many don't believe in the existence of Satan or that sin exists - so to that extent he has duped large parts of mankind.
What non-believers choose believe (or not believe) is their choice.Originally Posted by urge2kill
Not believing the positive (that he does exist) doesn't imply belief in the negative (that he doesn't exist). There are varying degrees of certainty and doubt.
Different standards of evidence is a problem in debates between believers and nonbelievers. For example:
- Some nonbelievers are fond of the phrase "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." They think the bar should be set very high for this particular claim.
- Christians and muslims often have Pascal's Wager in mind. Just the possibility of eternal punishment is enough to give caution because it is eternal. Some of these people might be properly classified as "nonbelieving, but cautious". Just the word "nonbelieving" leaves out some important information. Other people may be equally skeptical, but less cautious.
I think being questioning is virtuous. If we were given our brains by God, why is it a sin to think, to doubt?
Lim ,I once posted a thread asking if evil exists in the minds of forum members. Of course debating religion is like trying to slam a revolving door.Originally Posted by limerickman
What non-believers choose believe (or not believe) is their choice.
I'm in no doubt that evil exists and that the source of that evil is Satan.
If "beliefs" are those ideas that guide our behavior (in this case, the tendency toward "sin"), I think you are partially right.Originally Posted by limerickman
What non-believers choose believe (or not believe) is their choice.
I'm in no doubt that evil exists and that the source of that evil is Satan.
That's true.Originally Posted by jhuskey
Lim ,I once posted a thread asking if evil exists in the minds of forum members. Of course debating religion is like trying to slam a revolving door.
The Bible teaches that Lucifer (Satan) was an archangel who, through his own pride, considered himself to be better than God.Originally Posted by Volnix
Btw...
"Satan"... What do we actually know about satan? Is it the horned creature of the parallel dimension as presented into some religion generated and some para-religion generated pictures? Or is it something else?
A few forum members are gonna discuss about satan in this very thread. Some worship satan and his "back door" action like "Alienator" and some prefer to keep clear. Some are even open minded and dont care to get into some more specific thoughts about.
Satan... Is one of the various evil forms generated by the original schism in heaven where some of the goody angels thought they were kinda -nicer- or something. In definition, they are not really "evil" unless you are.
For example: Kids, if you say, like "Alienator" did:
"Satan, oh Satan, I really wants you to feel thy" and you are doing that to get some short of "evil boost", Satan is gonna "do ya" and you are gonna be bummed.
If you are an evil person then you do know that you are gonna be bummed by Satan anyway.
Alienator enjoys the company of Satan in bed. He enjoys licking Satan as he so often mentions on the forum.
So who is Satan?
Is he a person? A deity? A fiction?
Satan = Latin for "enemy"Originally Posted by Volnix
Btw...
"Satan"... What do we actually know about satan? Is it the horned creature of the parallel dimension as presented into some religion generated and some para-religion generated pictures? Or is it something else?
I got a cold for the first time in two years. Maybe I haven't been exorcizing enough.Originally Posted by MotownBikeBoy
I haven't exorcised all week, I got the flu or something. It would be great to send the demonic little virus packing.
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