Everybody in that Time Trial set speed records. Fignon actually rode a stronger ride with a higher power output, but lost time because he had no aero equipment or helmets, which wind-tunnel tests show cost him over three minutes in that ride alone. His ponytail without an aero helmet was proven to have cost him almost a minute (he gets a haircut, he wins). That TT was not "1 hr, 38 minutes". It was the only downhill TT and one of the shortest ever. Lemond looked like he could barely breathe after. Try not to get to carried away with your act. There was no EPO in racing in '89. Did you check the average speed increase in the Tours following '90? By pointing out how badly he got dropped in a year that he was in better shape than the one before after a more productive off-season, you just defeated your own argument if you are saying that Lemond was using at that time. The guys riding past him were nobodies, and he wasn't old. So how did guys with habitually lesser results and much lower endurance capacity (VO2 max) end up flying by him all the time? He wasn't ever really dominant even when he WAS winning with the exception of 3-4 stages in '86, only one of which he won the Pau-Superbagneres leg. He just pedalled and let other riders attack and fall apart. Anemia can be relative. Guess it never occurred to you to think that all the other riders were in the same boat; that anemia for a guy who has a VO2 max of 88 is different for the typical endurance athlete with one of around 70-something. Sort of happens over the course of a three week endurance event in a brutal season. Greg Lemond never won ANYTHING by "such a margin". He was famous for never riding to any devastating victories. He treated every thing other than the TDF and World's as "training rides", including every Giro he ever participated in. "[COLOR=181818]- And for someone who rides as hard as Greg, I don’t buy it for one second he rode it as training, look at his resume pre ’89, riding hard in every event." Just to repeat; Greg never dedicated himself to winning anything but the Tour and the worlds because, according to everybody in racing who ever mentioned it publicly, there isn't enough time to recover from one minor event to the major and do it clean. Greg was famous for getting criticized because of this, and "not doing what it took to win, not being dedicated enough." That and treating rides like the Giro as training, as I stated already and which you can always read about. [/COLOR] @ Gibson, who said: "..A performance in a one day race the likes he had never done before or would never repeat again. Those are facts, not rumors, insinuations or gossip." He won the Junior World's once at 17, the pro world's twice, finished second twice, and 4th another time. "Those are facts, not rumors, insinuations or gossip.." You, sir, need a fact check. That ride up that hill at Chambery he didn't do alone, and he sat on everyones' wheels all the way to the last few hundred yards towards the close. His win in '83 was much more impressive. In '89 he just took advantage of several other riders trying to tear each other up, most especially Fignon, who described Lemond afterwards as "my [COLOR=181818]bete-noire".[/COLOR]